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Which isn’t to say they don’t care about it (he also said they get very geeky about it) but I don’t think they care as much as certain fans do.
Citation, apparently, not forthcoming.
[Citation Needed]
I’m 100% sure Hasbro is ok with that.
Why you ask?
They approved the comic.
No comic gets written or drawn withour their blessing.
DHX isn’t part of this discussion.
As for Hasbro, they’re paying enough attention to the comic to nix any zebras appearing in the Rarity/Gilda issue and to ask that Trixie not be shown going to school with Twilight, though not enough attention to actually get the art changed when she was drawn. How the heck do you think they weren’t aware of the cattle arc or how the comic’s handled Sombra? (For that matter, why do you think they’d give a flying fickle finger of fate about what the comic does with Sombra? Were they planning on toy sets that depended on him being a dead villain?)
Did you miss Dale’s post below?
I doubt anyone on Hasbro or DHX wants Twilight letting villages burn in front of her face to be canon ever. Or the entire damn Sombra thing in the comics.
It isn’t, of course. Quality is just a subjective thing, the opinion of an individual. Many people still love the comics, this proves that quality is not an objective fact.
Besides, quality has absolutely nothing to do with canonicity, otherwise the show wouldn’t be canon either because the show too has some terrible episodes. The examples for the show will depend on who you ask.
This has been mentioned so many times before, but comic haters just keep on clinging to already refuted arguments such as quality = canonicity.
Um, not that this is terribly relevant to anything in this discussion, but how is the (lack of) quality of the comic series any evidence whatsoever of Hasbro’s (lack of) oversight of the comic?
No, more like they only give token oversight. The terrible quality of the main series the past year seems to be a testament to that.
They’re not letting their contracted people do whatever. Hasbro keeps a close eye on what all the teams are doing. It is known that the Rarity micro-series got altered on Hasbro’s command because of the show. And recently we learned that Hasbro told the comic staff that Trixie in comic#40 was not allowed to be Trixie. Clearly they’ve got something planned for Trixie that would prevent her from being at Celestia’s school. Unfortunately the artist forgot about that command and gave the unicorn Trixie’s cutie mark, that was explained in a blog about the comic.
So Hasbro does keep everything in check, both their actions and their words show that.
And the reason why there aren’t more references to comic events is simply because they want to keep the threshold low for people who aren’t up to date with everything. It’s a common marketing ploy, and nothing more than that. Marketing strategies have nothing to do with whether something is canon or not.
Hasbro is sending mixed messages–they’re saying one thing (everything is A-canon!) and doing another (letting their show-runners treat non-show sources as optionally canon). You’re basically asserting that of course their words matter more than their actions and then incredulously wondering how anyone could be so stupid as to think their actions matter more than their words.
It’s not really a great look.
Of course Hasbro’s motivation is money, the show isn’t made for charity. Hasbro is a company and needs to make a profit to survive.
Hasbro’s motivation doesn’t matter, though, it’s what they say that matters. They own the entire franchise and thus they are the only ones with authority about how everything is related, that’s how it goes. Everything else is just wishful thinking. If someone doesn’t like Hasbro’s stance on canonicity and wants to change it then they first must buy the franchise from them. Not that that would ever happen.
It’s very simple, if you don’t own something you don’t have a say in it. There’s really no way to refute that.
No, a near-official agreement. Important distinction. The producers, writers (including novel and comic book writers), actors, and fans all agree on a common stance of ‘oh jesus, Threshold, let’s not’. Paramount never said shit. It’s just that Threshold was so bad that the show people involved wish it didn’t exist. If MLP throws an episode that the showrunners regret that badly, the fandom might come to the same agreement.
What Hasbro says and what Hasbro does are two separate things. Star Trek’s Alpha/Beta split is not an official stance from Paramount, it’s a fan construction to agree how to interpret contradictory stuff. They talk a big talk about everything being canon because they want everyone to buy everything, but in practice, the show is not being required to subordinate itself to any other media, and all other media may be invalidated by the show at any moment. That is a two-tiered canon structure.
Edited because: Minor tense edit.
“official agreement between all parties” these are the key words. It was an official stance. There is no such agreement or stance by Hasbro, therefore only Hasbro’s word matters and nothing else. And as I’ve said several times before, and linked the source in a previous comment, Hasbro has declared the comics, books and movies canon. There is no wiggle room.
If the Star Trek staff had done the same, there would be no B canon for that frnachise either, but they chose to go a different route than Hasbro did. Therefore there is no comparing.
It baffles me that people claim to be a higher authority than Hasbro itself.
All of this!
“I keep bringing up Star Trek because it’s a 50-year-old fandom and it’s gone through like every fandom fight there is several times (and invented half of them), leaving instructive examples. “
Which is pretty much why I, as a Trekkie veteran of 30+ years, have such a difficult time taking any drama in the pony fandom seriously. There have been nothing I haven’t seen (and taken part in) multiple times, and much more vicious, in Trekdom.
I started reading a plot summary of “Threshold”, and my thought process roughly went like, “This seems like an interesting idea, and they’re developing it well, why’s everyone so ups– wait, what the heck– why are they– WHAT THE BLOODY BLUE BLAZES??”
Actually, over in Star Trek Land again, ‘Beta Canon’ tends to be a spectrum. Shittier novels get taken less seriously than good ones. If you use Shatner’s Kirk novels as supporting evidence for something, you’ll be assumed to be trolling. Hell, there’s a basically-official agreement between all parties, including show staff, to pretend that the Voyager episode Threshold never happened. So arguing that a particular comic was shitty and OOC is fairly relevant, and arguing for the dropping of an episode is not crazy-talk, if it’s as bad as Threshold. But Threshold is legendarily bad. So bad. Jesus, it’s bad.
I keep bringing up Star Trek because it’s a 50-year-old fandom and it’s gone through like every fandom fight there is several times (and invented half of them), leaving instructive examples.
that may be, but wanting them to be canon is like the fandom / story equivalent of the monkey paw story where they wish for money and herbet dies in the factory and the settlement is exactly the sum of money they wished for.
I just tend to forget things like Princess Spike ever happened. Even Miller wasn’t really happy with the end result.
Plus I’ll treat the comics as actual EU when they link them and the show in some way. Babs’s mark might have been mentioned to them ahead of time since a year from ep script lock to airing, and Prince and Cook’s ponysonas might as well been backgrounders.
Call me when the Deer actually pop up.
So, you don’t like some comics. Fair enough, everyone has the right to dislike or like whatever they want.
How does a random fan liking or disliking something affect canonicity in any way? It doesn’t.
You say that some characters are OOC, and it’s fine if you think that, but not everyone would agree.
Many episodes of the show are branded as bad too, with words like OOC being tossed around. Princess Spike to name just one of the many. Does this make the show non-canon in your eyes too? After all that IS the argument you’re using.
How many people in the fandom do you think liked Twilight and the M6 advocating white collar crime and faking historical buildings while letting a town be raided? That’s horribly OOC no matter how you slice it.
Point is that the comic’s writing quality is much lower than the show itself. Often turning characters into outright nitwits just to get a plot rolling. And not to mention outright having no ending like the entire hyped villain teamup in the “Seige” arc. That’s something no writer should ever do.
KEK, that was exactly my point, in that tweet jim technically said:
yeah yeah, everything is canon, nothing is canon, your magical happy world is safe, now, just leave ve alone
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Glad to see someone who gets it, instead of people just assuming they themselves have the power to say what is or isn’t canon, or make erroneous analogies with other franchises such as Star Wars or Star Trek.
Hasbro is the only one who can decide and they have officially stated that the comics, movies and books happen in between episodes, i.e. they’re canon.
licensemag dot com/license-global/hasbro-magic-branded-play
That’s not saying there aren’t comic stuff I would love to see in the show, Tiberius being one of the most obvious. But until stuff does appear. I’m treating it like a seperate universe.
Why are we even having this big fight over comic stuff being canon? Just have fun.