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Or i’ll burn you in your bed…okno
I just thought it would be funny to see Twilight acting jelly

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@Starswirl
Well, I myself reacted a bit to agressivelly toyour comments, but it’s just by mood got a bit worse after Background Pony #EE21 repeated comments, and your comments looked worse to me than they were intended, as you wrote yourself, it’s a problem with the written medium.

But yes, apologies accepted (づ。◕‿‿◕。)づ
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Ahhh the sweet smell of chaos in the morning hahaha

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@BackgroundLoL
That’s the problem with the written medium. It can be incredibly difficult to differentiate between the joking and the deliberately hurtful. That sentence there? Not in a million years would I have thought that was supposed to be just a joke and not an ad-equinem attack.
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@Starswirl
Dear Celestia, I was at least half-joking with:
But I apologize, but I have doubts if my logical arguments will get thought to you, and I expect just another angry response.


So I’m not sure if I made myself look that bad. Especially that didn’t even outright state they are incpabable following a logical argument, just stated humorously I have doubts.

And if you read more, you would know this is due to me having some suspicion, that that Background pony may be the same, that some time ago done some mod intervention/temporay ip adress ban worthy things, seeing they refernce specifically my previous discussion (probably that one), and write in at least a very similar way.

I don’t claim it’s something certain, I just feared it’s a possibility, and even asked if it’s the case.

Maybe I shouldn’t, but the thing just looked suspicious to me. And again, asked, not acccused.
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@BackgroundLoL
You’re right about one thing, getting involved was a mistake. I thought I could make things better, but I obviously couldn’t. /Sigh

No, it wasn’t right of them to accuse you of trying to force your opinions on them, just as you look really bad when you imply others not being convinced of your opinion is due to them not being capable of following a logical argument.

That’s what I’m trying to explain. What you’re doing looks really bad, at least from my end. It also looks bad on them, but they’re background ponies. They don’t have a name attached to their posts.
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@Starswirl
Starswirl, aren’t you maybe projecting here a bit? As you come of to me here bit self rightous…

And again, you are fully okay with Background Pony #EE21 (at least to me) claiming I wrote/done things I didn’t do?

For example:

@Background Pony #EE21
@BackgroundLoL
You need to chill and stop forcing the same rant on everyone when you see them mad about Sunset’s bad advice, and whether or not Flash thanked her for it doesn’t matter because it was bad advice and she was hardly even pays Flash any attention afterwards. So drop it.



When I wrote:

@BackgroundLoL
It’s surprising people overreact this much. Especially that this pic was made in 201, before Legend of Everfree.

And it’s much more probable Sunset was telling Flash just right advice, if harshly – from Flash’ own words, at least strongly imply Twilight didn’t visit him since Rainbow Rocks, despite her visiting the human world at the end of




@BackgroundLoL
@Background Pony #EE21
Well, it’s much, much more probable than the FlashLight fans theories. And to be fair, it seems (to me) canon, but not just not portrayed in the best/clearest way by Legend of Everfree.


And now you seemingly convinently don’t respond about the two comments I responded to in the first place, and wpuldn’t comment if they weren’t here.


I also don’t to start to suggest you are biased for some reason again me, or against the things I wrote here for some reason.

And even if you would bring up me "accusing you of being biased against lesbians", I could go write quite a bit why I thought so. Especially that in that discussion, you first tried yourself to argue straight shippers have it worse in the fandom, and derpibooru, so it’s rather* to me* a bit hippocritical you bring-up people accising others/making claims. But I didn’t, not to make a fuss.

And I’m not stating it’s a fact, but couldn’t you consider think yourself are making things now worse now?
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@Starswirl
And even if you think these comments I mentioned, didn’t start a fuss, I still had a right to respond to them, and give my opinion, and I think, constructive criticism. Or do you claim I don’t have a right to do so?

And I didn’t claim they said anything other, than what they did…
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@Starswirl
Really, you are ignoring I wrote I wrote I only wrote this, as response to two other comments:
To be clear, I understand people might find it funny, but just I don’t think so, ad I wouldn’t even comment here, if not for the two comments I respond to.


So no, I didn’t start the argument in the first place. And you seem oddly comfortable being accustory towards me, and ignoing them. I mean those:
@Background Pony #40B3

@Background Pony #EE21

And really, if anyone, Background Pony #EE21 started to first make acusations towards me, even claiming I wrote things I didn’t write, as I specified in my previous comment, you largelly ignored. I mean, Background Pony #EE21 since the start accised me of forcing my opinion on others, when I specifically used terms like "imply", "probable", and "seems to me canon".
And at the end, I wrote specifically:
So if anyone is doing a ruckus over nothing, it’s you…(or at least it’s how I see the situation XD)


And you really, really feel the need to bring an discussion that is half year old? In which in a PM, you yourself admitted to having written under anger in that discussion, and make some mistakes?
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@BackgroundLoL
Not the best idea to tell others to stop making a fuss when you’re the one who started the argument in the first place. Also… remember when you accused me of being biased against lesbians? Should I take this as a sign you are biased against straight couples?

I seriously don’t want to do that.
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@Background Pony #EE21
Really, there is no evidence it was even bad advice from Sunset, and at a lot ecidence at least, for what I described. If anyone needs to give it a rest, it’s you.

I mean, you ignored again I wrote in my first comment here:
And it’s much more probable Sunset was telling Flash just right advice, if harshly – from Flash’ own words, at least strongly imply Twilight didn’t visit him since Rainbow Rocks, despite her visiting the human world at the end of Friendship Games.


I wrote probable and imply.

And in the last comment I wrote:
And to be fair, it seems (to me) canon, but not just not portrayed in the best/clearest way by Legend of Everfree.

Again, I write it seems to me canon.

So if anyone is doing a ruckus over nothing, it’s you…(or at least it’s how I see the situation XD)
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@BackgroundLoL
Give it a rest. Have you ever stopped to consider that the problem isn’t Sunset was intentionally trying to sabotage Twilight’s love life, it was that she just gave bad advice? I have never felt she was sabotaging Twilight and Flash, my issue is she gave a halfhearted attempt at helping Flash (or more accurately the writers for the movie made her give a half-hearted attempt to help Flash) and everyone acts like it was the perfect choice of words. You need to chill and stop forcing the same rant on everyone when you see them mad about Sunset’s bad advice, and whether or not Flash thanked her for it doesn’t matter because it was bad advice and she was hardly even pays Flash any attention afterwards. So drop it.
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@Background Pony #EE21
Well, it’s much, much more probable than the FlashLight fans theories. And to be fair, it seems (to me) canon, but not just not portrayed in the best/clearest way by Legend of Everfree.

Again, WHY Sunset would endanger pony Twilight’s romantic relationship, if she ws carefull, in the same movie, to not do it with Sci-Twi?

Why Pony Twilight NEVER did ask Sunset to borrow Flash for a moment the journal, or take him to Equestria?

Why would pony Twilight shown literally no interest in Flash after Rainbow Rocks? As she didn’t even mention him at all since then.

And the series pretty much frames it as if Twilight dumped Flash, showing him in a sad perspective in Legend of Everfree and Good Vibes, as well as in general the show would correct us by now, if it wasn’t the case.

And the thing is, I’m not forcing it on people. I wrote inmy first comment:
And it’s much more probable Sunset was telling Flash just right advice, if harshly – from Flash’ own words, at least strongly imply Twilight didn’t visit him since Rainbow Rocks, despite her visiting the human world at the end of Friendship Games.


So I tried to be as delicate as I could about it, and not "force" my opinion about this on others.(I think).

Funny though you have no critism about people caiming the stupid idea Sunset tries to steal Flash, and did tell him to get over Twilight as a part of it, in the comment bellow:


@Background Pony #EE21
She found out Sunset’s only “advice” to help Flash was telling him to “get over her.” She’s pissed.

Background Pony #DBB0
@BackgroundLoL
No, the whole “Twilight has lost interest in Flash and told Sunset via the journal” is nothing but speculation that never happened on screen. They are not facts, they are what you believe and force on others.
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@Background Pony #6FBD
Well, those are facts, not a baseless headcanon you think is true, with Sunset somehow betraying Twilight, and stealing Flash, even though she stated she never was romantically interested in Flash, as opposed what you wrote XD

And you guys got it that bad, that FlashLight who think so, even agressively edited Sunset’s tv tropes character page, as seen in this discission about it:
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/remarks.php?trope=WesternAnimation.MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirls

And yeah it also shown not only I believe that’s only a stupid idea, only shippers think is fact. The FlashLiight fans also agressively edited the Legend of Everfre page, before corrections. And they might have done it again (I didn’t check in a while).

But I apologize, but I have doubts if my logical arguments will get thought to you, and I expect just another angry response.

Also, seeing you mention my previous discusions, there was a poster there, who who to make their arguments look better, posed as another poster, and got reprimanded for it by the mods, or even (temporalily) had you ip adress(es) banned for that.

I really hope you aren’t the same person as them…no offence, I just want to be on the safe side…
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@BackgroundLoL
Stop saying that all the time! It wasn’t convincing the first 100 times and it never will be. You always say the same thing and it is nothing but speculation. It’s boring.
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