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forgiveness doesn’t mean lowering your guard, or granting your enemies more freedom. it means not making the problem worse by punishing them for no reason other than revenge. when people don’t forgive, they put their antagonist in tartarus and leave them to rot, when it’d be better to try to fix them or at least find out what went wrong. forgiveness is where you do what’s best for the future, without worrying whether or not it punishes your enemies.
The difference is Princess Morbucks was spoiled rotten from the get go. Cozy Glow pretended to be nice. Princess Morbucks didn’t even bother pretending.
Exactly, Cozy Glow showed zero remorse and threatened to do it again but people are mad because she’s a kid who got locked up for nearly destroying all of Equestrian society - if not the world considering all alicorn and unicorn magic was gone and all artifacts dead so no raising the sun, no preserve magic, etc.
If you forgive someone that has no desire to change for the better, you’re just painting a target on your back.
The point was that someone claimed for a show about forgiveness, it’s weird they didn’t forgive Cozy and I was pointing out that they did not just flat out forgive others. It was either through purification, possession, and most of all remorse that the redeemed villains were redeemed. That those that don’t redeem are not just instantly forgiven and are given harsh sentences - turned to stone, blown away, blown up, sent to Tartarus, and forced on the run.
Sounds like we’ve been watching different shows, or are watching from very different perspectives. Which is as it should be.
Whatever point you are trying to document, if it’s related to the above tweet, just make it. If it’s not related to the above tweet, then it’s off topic so please take it to the forums.
Nightmare Moon was an evil presence. Luna wanted it gone, and was forgiven by the community and her sister as soon as she had been “cleansed”.
Discord was turned to stone for fucking up everything he could get his claws on, but after showing that he was willing to stop fucking things up he was forgiven and welcomed into the community (albeit as someone with a long history of fucking things up for his own pleasure).
Chrysalis was trying to turn the population of a city into food, and then when that didn’t work she tried again - despite those attempts she was offered a chance to join the community but she didn’t want to live in harmony with others.
Those seem like a pretty good demonstration of “forgiveness”.
For Sombra, he was enslaving an entire nation and fought to the death to enslave others. He chose that hill to die on - no one else.
And Tirek forcibly stole the very means of livelihood from countless ponies, crippling most in the process, and despite that was just sentenced to life without parole.
You have some really odd ideas about what “forgiveness” is, and what it isn’t, and the differences between personal choice and subjecting others to your personal whim.
Duh. They give everyone a chance, though.
And there is a MASSIVE difference between forgiving someone, and forgetting that they have a history of fucking shit up.
In a show about forgiveness… Nightmare Moon was forcefully purified, Discord was turned to stone and then manipulated into being a good guy, Chrysilis was blasted away, Sombra blown up, Tirek sent back to prison, Starlight pressured into a turnaround (and she was an extremist believing she was doing good, not actually evil), and Stygian was merely possessed and the ‘darkness’ was sent to limbo. The Changelings were the closest to a forgiveness thing and that was by a redeemed villain. Twilight still hasn’t properly forgiven Trixie. Only really Diamond Tiara - and not her mother - was forgiven and Gilda. Rainbow still has a lot of harshness for Lightning Dust.
They only forgive those who are actually sorry - Discord, for instance, was not seen as redeemed by the Mane 6 except Fluttershy until he got a kick in the pants by Tirek.
It’s actually EQG that has the most forgiveness of the franchise and most of them were driven insane or to an extreme from magic contact more than anything else.
I’m a little lost on the context. Provide exposition to assist in personal understanding please.
Hey. Why don’t we “Discuss” that
@Meanlucario
I am pretty certain they are referring to Big Jim’s reference to “kids in cages wasn’t such a REAL issue”.
probably.
A little girl who tried to create a cataclysmic event, mass treason, and an umpteenth amount of casualties.
Theres’ some people who can’t be saved, I’m being real. (I’m also one of those who felt starlight was too far gone to be saved but let’s not talk about that cause it’d take too long and I don’t want to get shot by mods)
on that note, what about the storm king? he did it to women, children, cats and dogs… isn’t he worse?
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I think they just want to start shit.
That is a very odd comparison, sir.
In a show all about forgiveness, Hasbro went and locked up a little girl like immigrant children. It’s sick
Cozy glow formulates and enacts on an evil plot but gets caught and then thrown in a cage and everyone looses their minds.
fuckingevil, Say IRL some orphan kid causes a nigh catastrophic event on purpose, they are gonna get sent deep it doesn’t matter who they are or how old they are.Wrong is wrong, don’t want the time, don’t do the crime.
Cozy was a dangerous sociopath who looked to kill, steal, kidnap, and manipulate others so that she can overtake her government for personal power and has no remorse for her actions.
That would be incredibly dumb.
NO.