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Night--Mist

@proto29

It's okay to have opinions about something, but you have to remember that not everyone is going to have the same opinion as you. And it is okay to comment about why you may dislike the art piece.

But be mindful about what you comment about. It should be more about the artistic talent and perhaps what you found interesting or not so interesting about the story attached to or depicted in the art piece, and less about "personal" art preference.

I can understand throwing in a few jokes, but to go into full explanation on what you prefer in art, it's best to leave that certain opinion in your head. Like I said, everyone is different. Trust me, I learned the hard way on that one.

I could go in to further detail about the power of words, but I do not want to ramble on about this. So please, like I said, just be mindful of what you comment about in the comments sections of the art piece.
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Night--Mist

@mjangelvortex

@proto29

@Background Pony #AC13

I have to agree with Background Pony #AC13. This is arguement has gone way too far, and the artist may report you to the site staff for filling up the comments area with a debate that niether side is agreeing with the other, and no longer has the art piece as the point of the discussion. Please, stop the debate or move it to PM's.
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Background Pony #C584
@proto29
@mjangelvortex
Seriously guys, at this point you're being a little rude to the artist. The discussion has nothing to do with the art, and is devolving into one saying that magic should conform to science, and another explaining that science and nature are plenty wacky in their own right.
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proto29

le grand rêveur
@mjangelvortex
I repeat your arguments and inform you that they are incomplete in their truth
(Lizards for example do not transmit fluid between them so there is not really any reproduction with a spouse but a form of auto cloning)
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mjangelvortex
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Lady of Ships and Birbs
@proto29
Okay. I'm having a really hard time understanding you. Not just because of the problems we're having with the language barrier (your comments look like they were poorly translated via Google Translate or something). But I'm also having trouble understanding you due to some weird logical things too. You say you're for science but when I mention science to you, you reject what I have to say.
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Fragnostic
The End wasn't The End - Found a new home after the great exodus of 2012

Obsessed with TwiLuna.
Can you people please move on with this discussion to the forums or to private messages?
At this point, it's only tangentially related to the image.
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proto29

le grand rêveur
@mjangelvortex

ok I’m gonna take my time and not chew my words, this is getting on my nerves.

1) I find his evil holy ( I don’t like his thermal but good)
I advise you to see what it gives in a real story and not in an all cute lease story.

2 and 3 ) I love the transformation but what you propose will never accept in the series.
(not all magic allows)

4 ) its summer a trap to deceive Trixi no application in the series.
magic lesbien spown is only a maternity need that lesbian couples try to fill. (adoption exists)

5) its existence in nature does not interfere with me.
yes they make a self-fertilization so a cloning two same because there is no longer any evil they do only get
excited to trigger the creation of ovulation.
if you go in the direction the mites too, they have a cycle where the females clone and then redo a cycle of
Classic reproduction with eggs from the previous generation.

6 ) I would tell you that these methods are much more complex than you claim and they are not intended for this
enforcement, which remains illegal under the law.
they are intended for therapeutic purposes to create cells compatible for nursing of children with gene disease.

And yes it will be possible like cloning but it is not for that that it will be more moral.
return on the testimonies of the test-tube children and their uneasiness in view of their situation.

Attention it is easy to dream harder to wake up. the dream you propose can become a nightmare.
science doesn’t do magic.


(vf: ok je vais prendre mon temps et pas mâcher mes mot, la sa m’énerve.
1) je trouve sa mal saint ( je n'aime pas se thermes mais bon)
je te conseille de voir ce que sa donne dans une vrais histoire et non dans un histoire tous baux tous mignon.
2 and 3 ) j'adore les transformation mais ce que tu propose ne sera jamais accepter dans la série.
(la magie ne permet pas tous)
4 ) sa été un piège pour tromper trixi aucune application dans la série.
magic lesbien spown n'est qu'un besoin de maternité que les couples lesbien essaye de combler. (l'adoption existe)
5 ) que sa existe dans la nature ne me gène pas.
oui elle font une auto fécondation donc un clonage deux même car il n'existe plus de mal elle ne font que s’excite pour déclencher la création de l'ovulation.
si tu vas dans se sens les acariens aussi, ils ont un cycle ou les femelle se clone puis refont un cycle de
reproduction classique avec les œufs de la génération des précédent.
6 ) je te dirais que ce sont des méthodes qui son bien plus complexe que se que tu affirme et elles ne sont pas prévu pour cette application, qui reste illégale au regard de la lois.
elles sont a but thérapeutique pour crée des cellules compatible pour soignées des enfant atteins de malade génique.
et oui sa sera possible comme le clonage mais c'est pas pour sa que sa sera plus moral.
retour sur les témoignage des enfants éprouvette et de leur mal aise au vue de leur situation.

attention il est facile de rêver plus dur de se réveiller. le rêve que tu propose peut devenir un cauchemars.
la science ne fait pas de magie.)
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Fragnostic
The End wasn't The End - Found a new home after the great exodus of 2012

Obsessed with TwiLuna.
@PonyPon
That sounds exactly like Twilight. She wants to test the spell thoroughly to make sure it's perfect.
And I'm pretty sure Luna is not against that at all ;)
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mjangelvortex
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Cool Birb - "Caw!" An awesome tagger
Dream Come True! - Participated in the MLP 9th Anniversary Event
Notoriously Divine Tagger - Consistently uploads images above and beyond the minimum tag requirements. And/or additionally, bringing over the original description from the source if the image has one. Does NOT apply to the uploader adding several to a dozen tags after originally uploading with minimum to bare tagging.
Toola Roola - For helping others attend the 2019 Community Collab
Wallet After Summer Sale -
Friendship, Art, and Magic (2019) - Celebrated Derpibooru's seventh year anniversary with friends.
Magnificent Metadata Maniac - #1 Assistant

Lady of Ships and Birbs
@proto29
Oh, do I have some news for you. While Pterus is adopted, he does eventually get two little sisters that are magical lesbian spawn (one that was birthed from Luna and the other from Twilight).



I am a fan of science fiction and when we approach these ideas apply in the future we voice the consequences.


1) MLP isn't a science fiction story. (And even if it was, lots of science fiction takes some liberties here and there and aren't 100% accurate.)

2) MLP is fantasy and magic is (and always has been) a huge part of it.

3) Speaking of, in MLP it's canon that there's magical spells that can change a character's species (e.g. Ponies turning into Breezies and Ponies and Hippogriffs into Seaponies). If this is okay and believable, why is magical lesbian spawn not?

4) To add onto this, the Alicorn Amulet episode implied sex-swapping spells exist. So, the actual show provided a possible example of how same sex couples could potentionally have children in the world of Equestria.

5) In the real world, some same sex animals can have babies together. Take for example, the New Mexico Whiptail Lizard. While the female does reproduce asexually, only ones that have been mounted can lay eggs. Since the male population is pretty much non-existant, the female that's doing the egg laying will need the help of another female to stimulate ovulation.

6) There has been actual recent efforts in science to make it so same sex couples can have babies. It's not perfected yet but it's already underway via stem-cell research. This research could also even potentionally cure infertality (which is something even straight couples could possibly benefit from as well). There's also methods of making children with three parents as well.

Basically, the scientist makes an artifical egg or sperm using the stem cells, and then makes a test tube baby. Scientists have successfully made these children using lab mice (but unfortunately the mice didn't live very long). If the technolgy and science improves and progresses, it could very well be possible that this could work with people a few years down the line.
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proto29

le grand rêveur
@mjangelvortex

No, I just don’t like the idea of "magic lesbians or gay spown" and I thought that drawing was part of it.
This idea is pretty cute for some, but it’s not really cute.
I am a fan of science fiction and when we approach these ideas apply in the future we voice the consequences.
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mjangelvortex
My Little Pony - 1992 Edition
Friendship, Art, and Magic (2020) - Took part in the 2020 Community Collab
The Magic of Friendship Grows - For helping others attend the 2020 Community Collab
Cool Birb - "Caw!" An awesome tagger
Dream Come True! - Participated in the MLP 9th Anniversary Event
Notoriously Divine Tagger - Consistently uploads images above and beyond the minimum tag requirements. And/or additionally, bringing over the original description from the source if the image has one. Does NOT apply to the uploader adding several to a dozen tags after originally uploading with minimum to bare tagging.
Toola Roola - For helping others attend the 2019 Community Collab
Wallet After Summer Sale -
Friendship, Art, and Magic (2019) - Celebrated Derpibooru's seventh year anniversary with friends.
Magnificent Metadata Maniac - #1 Assistant

Lady of Ships and Birbs


This comment section. It's something.

@proto29
@proto29
Why do you constantly talk about male characters and incinerators? I don't understand. I don't think the artists you're complaining about

Also, people shipping female characters together isn't "deleting the masculine genre" and it's most certainly not "disturbing." At all.

SilFoe is a lesbian and she likes lesbian ships is all. It doesn't mean she hates masculinity or men or anything. In fact, she has some hetero couples and male characters in her blogs. In fact, two of them are right here on this picture (along with two lesbian ships so the number of gay and straight ships in this picture is actually equal).

@Background Pony #5CB5
@proto29
You both make a good point that actual conversation is better than blind praise or pure bashing out of spite. But come on, some of the comments the both of you were making didn't seem to be constructive criticism. Also, I completely understand disliking a pairing or two that an artist makes for their AUs, Next-Gens, etc. but I feel some of the comments here about Silfoe's work here are a bit overblown.
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Background Pony #36C4
@Jarkes
Just an funny thought dude.

@SD50-2
We can filter anything but I thing the purpose of the comment section is conversation. I think it's a thousand times better to make interrogatives instead of just saying "oh I love anything you draw" or "u suck". If I had half the talent to draw or write I would be interested in what makes people happy or angry.
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