@Nightglider_
It wasn’t much of a comparison, more of a mention that it also happened with other tanks. Also, over a thousand Tigers were produced, and that would be at least 200 minor changes. 2 years, over 200 changes, and a single factory producing them. I dunno about you, but I think that’s pretty damn impressive.
@Kowalskicore
Thats not a fair comparison, America had the production capability to make small changes, or upgrades.
Germany on the other hand, had all kinds of shortages. The Tiger series, every 5 Tiger 1’s produced would then see a very small change that required them to change the tooling, which was very expensive to do, which severely hindered their production, and in a war of attrition, thats not a good thing.
@Nightglider_
It’s not necessarily miniscule things, it’s just that the changes in production cannot be applied all at once during wartime, and vehicles returning from the front were upgraded to the highest standard feasible, resulting in nigh-endless combinations and interim models.
While this is true for the Panzer IV, other nations’ tanks, like the American M4 Sherman also had a bazillion variants due to varying requirements for lend-lease, different production techniques employed by manufacturers, new technology being developed, lend-lease recievers making their own changes, and last but not least, modifications at the front made by mechanics.
I should probably stop now though, I’d rather not get slapped by the mods for filling the entire comment section with tanks…
@Nightglider_
There are also a lot of photos depicting the Panzer IV Ausf. G without vision slits on the sides of the turret and Ausf. F2 without the thingy under the gun. The loader’s and gunner’s hatches were never removed, as they are necessary for the crew to enter and exit the tank in a practical manner.
The tank owned by the Panzermuseum Münster is most likely an interim model produced sometime in 1942, it doesn’t just still have the vision slits, but also seems to lack the 30mm armour plate that was welded to the upper glacis of Panzer IVs starting in summer 1942. By 1943 all Panzer IVs that rolled off the production line had this extra plate.
There’s a Panzer IV Ausf. G in Kubinka as well, here it is:
As you can see, no vision slits. Also this one has the 30mm armour plate welded to the upper glacis, unlike the one in Münster.
Also, here are two photos of F2s without the thingy under the gun.
why not a real pony?
i am wondering why this is taged suggestive when i first see this
deep fantasy
It wasn’t much of a comparison, more of a mention that it also happened with other tanks. Also, over a thousand Tigers were produced, and that would be at least 200 minor changes. 2 years, over 200 changes, and a single factory producing them. I dunno about you, but I think that’s pretty damn impressive.
Thats not a fair comparison, America had the production capability to make small changes, or upgrades.
Germany on the other hand, had all kinds of shortages. The Tiger series, every 5 Tiger 1’s produced would then see a very small change that required them to change the tooling, which was very expensive to do, which severely hindered their production, and in a war of attrition, thats not a good thing.
It’s not necessarily miniscule things, it’s just that the changes in production cannot be applied all at once during wartime, and vehicles returning from the front were upgraded to the highest standard feasible, resulting in nigh-endless combinations and interim models.
While this is true for the Panzer IV, other nations’ tanks, like the American M4 Sherman also had a bazillion variants due to varying requirements for lend-lease, different production techniques employed by manufacturers, new technology being developed, lend-lease recievers making their own changes, and last but not least, modifications at the front made by mechanics.
I should probably stop now though, I’d rather not get slapped by the mods for filling the entire comment section with tanks…
Germany loved to change minuscule things during their tanks production
There are also a lot of photos depicting the Panzer IV Ausf. G without vision slits on the sides of the turret and Ausf. F2 without the thingy under the gun. The loader’s and gunner’s hatches were never removed, as they are necessary for the crew to enter and exit the tank in a practical manner.
The tank owned by the Panzermuseum Münster is most likely an interim model produced sometime in 1942, it doesn’t just still have the vision slits, but also seems to lack the 30mm armour plate that was welded to the upper glacis of Panzer IVs starting in summer 1942. By 1943 all Panzer IVs that rolled off the production line had this extra plate.
There’s a Panzer IV Ausf. G in Kubinka as well, here it is:
As you can see, no vision slits. Also this one has the 30mm armour plate welded to the upper glacis, unlike the one in Münster.
Also, here are two photos of F2s without the thingy under the gun.
And two more of Gs without vision slits.
Apologies for the longpost.
This is a G Model. Noticve it still has the vision slits and loaders hatch on the side
This is an F2. Notice the mantling below the gun that was carried over from the Assault Gun variant, the G doesnt have the mantling below it
It has the turret of an F2 though, as versions G and onward did away with the vision slits on the sides of the turret.
Looks like a G.
F2 or above, hard to tell without seeing the muzzle brake.