@Hericks
I guess you’re pretty convinced these differences actually exist and really have an impact on the drawing (actually tracing) of the face. We can end the argument here as there’s no way you or we will change our minds on the subject.
@Johnny B. Mediocre
For those who are blind:
The eyes don’t quite line up, the nose is different, though the mouth is pretty spot on.
Yes, the faces are very similar, but i can probably take thousands of pics on this site and compare them to have near identical faces to each other.
I never said anything about needing a higher IQ to understand the art process, you just need training, evidently.
And glasses it seems.
Clearly, you’re not an artist, and have no idea how this works.
I’ve taken an art class in college, I know how this works.
translated: “to be fair you have to have a very high IQ to understand art”
@Hericks
the body’s another thing, but do you actually have any evidence that the face wasn’t traced despite the two lining up perfectly - are you talking about the bow? the hair? because last I checked that ain’t the face
@Hericks
There are no differences between the lines of the two faces lol. This images shows it clearly. Unless you have some sort of argument and show us the “distinct differences” you mentioned.
@FetishSketches
Actually, there are distinct differences between the two that suggests it wasn’t traced. Yes, the expressions are very similar, but that doesn’t automatically translate to art theft.
Just look at the equestria girls artwork, most of the faces are extremely similar, to the point that some can claim it was traced.
Honestly, this does not warrant making personal attacks on the artist, not even close.
Now if the artist had several pictures that directly resembled an artist’s gallery, that would be a different story. But this is not the case.
I’ve taken an art class in college, I know how this works.
@Hericks
It doesn’t look vastly different. Pretty much what @FetishSketches said. “based on your twisted logic”
No, that’s far from what I’m saying. Maybe I should’ve added quotations around “heavily referenced” to further the idea I was trying to get across. When it looks suspiciously similar (and I mean a near 1:1 similarity) to another piece, there’s going to be the idea that it was traced and/or slightly edited. There’s no getting around that.
Don’t need to be an artist to compare two images and figure out if it looks the same. Just need a program that can layer images and resize/rotate/transparent the images, then come to a conclusion. Although I’m not an artist, I have edited images before (some of which I can actually be proud of), and given credit where it’s due.
I’m not harassing anyone. Only thing I’m doing at the moment is replying to you. If that constitutes harassment in your eyes, I don’t know what to tell you.
@Hericks
The point is that whoever created this image traced the face from the second picture in the description exactly as it is. They didn’t use it as a reference, it’s traced line by line exactly as the original. Now that’s not the end of the world of course, however most people don’t appreciate that way of creating art, especially when it’s as blatant and obvious as this one here, without any mention of the original.
@Background Pony #6724
It DOES look vastly different. The pose, the angle, even the nature of the image is different. just because it’s Applebloom doesn’t mean it’s art theft.
Honestly, based on your twisted logic, literally every artist who has ever drawn pony art is an art theif of the show’s animators, because there are similarities.
Clearly, you’re not an artist, and have no idea how this works.
Stop being a twit and harassing artists for doing what artists do.
@Hericks
Look, I don’t know what to tell you. Even if it’s “just” a part of an image being heavily referenced from another image, it’d be at least the polite thing to do to link to the artist/image you referenced it/them from.
It be one thing if it looks vastly different from the source. It’s another when it looks suspiciously similar to the piece in question. To avoid any potential drama and accusations, it doesn’t hurt to just tell others the refs you used. Otherwise it just looks like you were trying to hide it if it ever comes up.
@Background Pony #6724
We don’t usually give sources to every pic we reference. I usually don’t do that unless the entire pic is based off or inspired another pic specifically.
I may reference one pic for a foot, another for a face, and another for hair. It’s not theft. All artists do this from time to time.
As long as they didn’t trace the thing, (which it looks like they didn’t) they’re not actually stealing the art.
This is how artists work. And it’s not just image artists. Musicians, sculptures, architects, novelists… they all use others material as references, and they don’t credit every piece they reference, unless it is heavily referenced or inspired by a specific piece.
@Hericks
They hadn’t made any mention of the art they were “referencing”. On top of that, they had also stolen the feet from elsewhere in many of the other images IIRC, still without credit to the original.
@Background Pony #D101
There’s a difference between learning or vectoring art, versus trying to pass traced art off as your own.
IIRC, this artist in particular was caught doing exactly that, and didn’t list their traced sources.
EDIT: It’s a damn shame too, because I liked the art they made. Wouldn’t have cared if they mentioned they traced it so long as they were honest about it.
Complaining about tracing from other’s art makes as much sense as complaining about vector artists tracing screenshots from episodes. Sometimes tracing is how people learn to draw and eventually they mold their own style
A quick look at your profile picture reveals that you’re nobody at all.
a quick look at your profile picture reveals that you aren’t an artist. you’re just someone who draws (poorly)
they are apparent there in the image. Though those with poor eyesight may have difficulty seeing it
I guess you’re pretty convinced these differences actually exist and really have an impact on the drawing (actually tracing) of the face. We can end the argument here as there’s no way you or we will change our minds on the subject.
For those who are blind:
The eyes don’t quite line up, the nose is different, though the mouth is pretty spot on.
Yes, the faces are very similar, but i can probably take thousands of pics on this site and compare them to have near identical faces to each other.
I never said anything about needing a higher IQ to understand the art process, you just need training, evidently.
And glasses it seems.
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translated: “to be fair you have to have a very high IQ to understand art”
@Hericks
the body’s another thing, but do you actually have any evidence that the face wasn’t traced despite the two lining up perfectly - are you talking about the bow? the hair? because last I checked that ain’t the face
I guess you can’t see very well
There are no differences between the lines of the two faces lol. This images shows it clearly. Unless you have some sort of argument and show us the “distinct differences” you mentioned.
Actually, there are distinct differences between the two that suggests it wasn’t traced. Yes, the expressions are very similar, but that doesn’t automatically translate to art theft.
Just look at the equestria girls artwork, most of the faces are extremely similar, to the point that some can claim it was traced.
Honestly, this does not warrant making personal attacks on the artist, not even close.
Now if the artist had several pictures that directly resembled an artist’s gallery, that would be a different story. But this is not the case.
I’ve taken an art class in college, I know how this works.
It doesn’t look vastly different. Pretty much what @FetishSketches said.
“based on your twisted logic”
No, that’s far from what I’m saying. Maybe I should’ve added quotations around “heavily referenced” to further the idea I was trying to get across. When it looks suspiciously similar (and I mean a near 1:1 similarity) to another piece, there’s going to be the idea that it was traced and/or slightly edited. There’s no getting around that.
Don’t need to be an artist to compare two images and figure out if it looks the same. Just need a program that can layer images and resize/rotate/transparent the images, then come to a conclusion. Although I’m not an artist, I have edited images before (some of which I can actually be proud of), and given credit where it’s due.
I’m not harassing anyone. Only thing I’m doing at the moment is replying to you. If that constitutes harassment in your eyes, I don’t know what to tell you.
The point is that whoever created this image traced the face from the second picture in the description exactly as it is. They didn’t use it as a reference, it’s traced line by line exactly as the original. Now that’s not the end of the world of course, however most people don’t appreciate that way of creating art, especially when it’s as blatant and obvious as this one here, without any mention of the original.
It DOES look vastly different. The pose, the angle, even the nature of the image is different. just because it’s Applebloom doesn’t mean it’s art theft.
Honestly, based on your twisted logic, literally every artist who has ever drawn pony art is an art theif of the show’s animators, because there are similarities.
Clearly, you’re not an artist, and have no idea how this works.
Stop being a twit and harassing artists for doing what artists do.
Look, I don’t know what to tell you. Even if it’s “just” a part of an image being heavily referenced from another image, it’d be at least the polite thing to do to link to the artist/image you referenced it/them from.
It be one thing if it looks vastly different from the source. It’s another when it looks suspiciously similar to the piece in question. To avoid any potential drama and accusations, it doesn’t hurt to just tell others the refs you used. Otherwise it just looks like you were trying to hide it if it ever comes up.
We don’t usually give sources to every pic we reference. I usually don’t do that unless the entire pic is based off or inspired another pic specifically.
I may reference one pic for a foot, another for a face, and another for hair. It’s not theft. All artists do this from time to time.
As long as they didn’t trace the thing, (which it looks like they didn’t) they’re not actually stealing the art.
This is how artists work. And it’s not just image artists. Musicians, sculptures, architects, novelists… they all use others material as references, and they don’t credit every piece they reference, unless it is heavily referenced or inspired by a specific piece.
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They hadn’t made any mention of the art they were “referencing”. On top of that, they had also stolen the feet from elsewhere in many of the other images IIRC, still without credit to the original.
which makes you a fagot OP.
There’s a difference between learning or vectoring art, versus trying to pass traced art off as your own.
IIRC, this artist in particular was caught doing exactly that, and didn’t list their traced sources.
EDIT: It’s a damn shame too, because I liked the art they made. Wouldn’t have cared if they mentioned they traced it so long as they were honest about it.
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It gives her the ability to expose a tracer but only several years after the fact.
It’s just feet.