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IT’S PICKLE NYX!
 
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FurriesandFlurries

@Beltar  
Nice one bringing up old drama.
 
Also, stop trying to act like a know-it-all, you’re only making yourself look like an egotist. Not to mention, if you’re so proud of yourself, go and write your own shit and stop being a basic bitch over which characters I can and can’t like.
FurriesandFlurries

@Beltar  
“This’s mutually contradictive and looks like the character is drunk or mentally not stable which makes everything about her pointless. So excuse me but we’ve serious problems with Himmler even in 5th season. And I guess not only me had the feeling “what the fuck kick this psyhopatic bitch out!”. You can not show a character throwing hysterics and not understanding the very basic things and then solving problems and giving advices or doing any usefull work. I can understand how evil character changes and start to do good things. But Himmler is not evil she is insane and this can’t be fixed. So I really don’t care what she does in S8 because there always will be questions how she can do that. She was broken from the very beginning without any possibility to fix.”
 
And there you go again, gaslighting and completing ignoring what I told you. Starlight was not broken from the beginning and the way you’re projecting it like it’s an objective claim makes you look pretentious. Because this is literally how you’re treating the Starlight situation: “How DARE you like this character that I hate?! You’re not allowed to say anything positive about her!”
 
“So you can not proclaim that Twilight is the most talanted mage in Equestria and was trained for years by the best possible teachers and then insert a character from nowhere (not level boss like NMM or Discord) who outperform Twilight or even equal to Twilight in magic. At least there must be good explanation. Such a characters usually named Mary Sue.”
 
This is why people have created headcanons for why Starlight is so talented with magic, unless you’re completely disregarding those because, as it appears from your perspective, “ER, IF THE SHOW DOESN’T SHOW IT, IT’S NOT CANON, LOL!” Additionally, don’t shoot down headcanons just because you hate a character, that just makes you look like an asshole.
 
“This is how discussions go with Himmler fans. “Ha! You have answer! In your face!” No matter how wrong the answer is.”
 
And there’s how discussions go with people like you: “SHUT UP, YOU BITCH! #NYX4LIFE!”
Beltar
Duck - User has been known to often resemble a waterfowl

there’s nothing positive about Starlight” because it isn’t
 
In fact it’s completelly reversed. You use episodes with her to “proof” that she did something good but there’re always one huge problem. Anything a character does must be possible for them (phisically/intellectually) in story’s universe and there must be motvation for them. So you can not proclaim that Twilight is the most talanted mage in Equestria and was trained for years by the best possible teachers and then insert a character from nowhere (not level boss like NMM or Discord) who outperform Twilight or even equal to Twilight in magic. At least there must be good explanation. Such a characters usually named Mary Sue. And you can’t show that character shooting to other ponies horn-laser blasts which explodes stone constructions just to run away from the punishment and then show this character starting hysterics “punish me as hard as you want!”. This’s mutually contradictive and looks like the character is drunk or mentally not stable which makes everything about her pointless. So excuse me but we’ve serious problems with Himmler even in 5th season. And I guess not only me had the feeling “what the fuck kick this psyhopatic bitch out!”. You can not show a character throwing hysterics and not understanding the very basic things and then solving problems and giving advices or doing any usefull work. I can understand how evil character changes and start to do good things. But Himmler is not evil she is insane and this can’t be fixed. So I really don’t care what she does in S8 because there always will be questions how she can do that. She was broken from the very beginning without any possibility to fix.
 
As Finn said to Ice King in 1st season of “Adventure Time”: “You’re not sane and I don’t know how to help you”. “Adventure Time” was constructed to became more complex as Finn grows and in later seasons Ice King is not just a primitive villian for protogonist to beat but he always not sane and that’s his tragedy. But with Himmler it’s just tossing off what was told about her in prev. episodes. Screen-writers don’t know what to do with a character whose only distinctive feature is been mentally not sound OK just forget about that let she does some shit in this “school of friendship”.
 
It’s like dialog”  
“What it will be 25*25?”  
“650!” (really 625)  
“But it’s not possible!”  
“I gave you answer get the fuck off!”
 
This is how discussions go with Himmler fans. “Ha! You have answer! In your face!” No matter how wrong the answer is.
FurriesandFlurries

@Beltar  
“May be because there’s nothing positive to say about her? Not about her character not about her personality. Think about it.”
 
To YOU, there’s nothing positive to say about her. Don’t wrap this around like this is some objective claim that “oh, there’s nothing positive about Starlight” because it isn’t. There are positive things to talk about with Starlight, the thing is that you’re so biased against her that you don’t wanna heard it. I’d respect your opinion on not liking Starlight if you weren’t such a pretentious douchebag who badgers anyone anytime they say about something positive about her.
 
Also, “Everybody says the film is a shit but a like it”.
 
That depends on the film in question because everyone has their own tastes, the main thing is to not be pretentious and haughty about it.
Beltar
Duck - User has been known to often resemble a waterfowl

OK people learn about story-telling in dedicated schools and write books about it because it subjective. Sure thing. “Everybody says the film is a shit but a like it”.
 
positive to say about Starlight
 
May be because there’s nothing positive to say about her? Not about her character not about her personality. Think about it.
Background Pony #DC61
What the actual hell is happening in this thread? Is there a seasonwunner session going on or something?
FurriesandFlurries

@Beltar
 
“If you don’t see it. Well thousands of people do. And all of them would tell you the very same things. The problem you don’t even understand why it’s all so wrong. And how it affect you.”
 
The only thing I see is a little troll who should probably go back and hide under his bridge. But go on, keep gaslighting as if that makes your argument any more valid. God forbid we have these things called “opinions.”
 
“What about Nyx. While we write walls of text carefully explaining what wrong with Himmler and MLP I still don’t remember any critical analisys of “Past Sins” which would explain why the fic is bad and Nyx is a bad character. In fact I don’t remember any analysis at all. Only provocations. At least half of people who hate Nyx didn’t read it at all.”
 
The problem is that you brown nose the living shit out of her like an obsessive fanboy and act like she’s the greatest thing ever created, while at the same time, gaslighting anyone who has anything positive to say about Starlight or any of the seasons she’s featured in and use terms like Himmler like a 14-year-old edgelord.
 
Also, don’t lecture me on the basis of storytelling, because that claim is subjective as can be. Don’t say pass it off like “oh, I’m objectively right, you peasant.” What might not be appealing to you does not mean other people can’t find enjoyment out of it.
Beltar
Duck - User has been known to often resemble a waterfowl

I suggest you try an experiment do something so police will arrest you then give them some evidence and next day different evidence contradicting to the first one. I predict that the police will ask why you tell them bullshit and what is true. This is how last MLP seasons do. The show itself doesn’t remember what it told in previous episodes and doesn’t follow it’s own rules. That’s why we have all this shit with Himmler, with hysterical Celestia, with ideas of replacing princesses with M6, with tonnes of char nobody cares about, with allmighty Discord diappearing every time screen-writer wants it, with ponification of everything so “magical land of Equestria” already looks more like provincial American town with drunk rednecks.
 
If you don’t see it. Well thousands of people do. And all of them would tell you the very same things. The problem you don’t even understand why it’s all so wrong. And how it affect you.
 
What about Nyx. While we write walls of text carefully explaining what wrong with Himmler and MLP I still don’t remember any critical analisys of “Past Sins” which would explain why the fic is bad and Nyx is a bad character. In fact I don’t remember any analysis at all. Only provocations. At least half of people who hate Nyx didn’t read it at all.
FurriesandFlurries

@Beltar  
“The problem with you that you not just disagree with what I tell you. You don’t understand what I tell you. But I tell you pretty obvious things. You don’t understand even basic things in story-tellig. You don’t understand even simple requirements continuity and cause-and-effect relations something that in the last seasons violated near everywhere.”
 
Says the guy who brown noses the fuck out of Nyx and acts like she’s the greatest thing ever created and shits on anyone who likes Starlight and the seasons she’s featured in. You have no room to talk when it comes to “understanding what people tell you.”
Beltar
Duck - User has been known to often resemble a waterfowl

that actually give Celestia some character
 
Celestia had well disigned character and her role. And if the character who had stable behavioral pattern and the role to be like adult for the characters who act like children starts throwing hysterics for idiotic reason so Hysterical Horse could give some idiotic advice I have to ask who approved this non-canon shit for production.
 
cut the authoritative and prickish tone
 
Seriously??
 
The problem with you that you not just disagree with what I tell you. You don’t understand what I tell you. But I tell you pretty obvious things. You don’t understand even basic things in story-tellig. You don’t understand even simple requirements continuity and cause-and-effect relations something that in the last seasons violated near everywhere.
 
Good. Nyx should stay in this form forever
 
Remember what Pickle Rick did.