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Unjustly forgiven, at that.
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That says a lot about how much the production staff knows about real reformations.
And save for Trixie, they haven’t had a major appearance since.
Then what happened to Nightmare Moon again?
Villains goal: Rule all of equestria and kill twilight sparkle and her friends
The pony of shadows was banished to limbo. Stygian was reformed.
Starlight Glimmer - Reformed
Garble - Defeated before he even got the chance to do whatever the fuck he was going to do and forced to hug everyone as punishment (weakest punishment in the show). Later Reformed.
Mane-Iac - Captured
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G1
Tirek - Good riddance!
Witches of Gloom - Fate unknown
Squirk - Fate unknown, utterly thwarted
Porcina - Reformed
Raptorians - Petrified
Arabus - Incapacitated
Grogar - Banished
Flories - Under lock and key
Beezen - Up a creek without a paddle
King Charlatan - Reformed
Lavan - Good riddance!
Somnambula - Fate unknown, utterly thwarted
G4
Nightmare Moon - Reformed
Discord - Reformed
Chrysalis - Petrified
Sombra - Good riddance!
Tirek - Petrified
Pony of Shadows - Reformed
Storm King - Good riddance!
Cozy Glow - Petrified
Maybe I should’ve put Moondancer under character development instead of reformation.
Moondancer shouldn’t be considered reformed because she was never a villain or even much of an antagonist. Otherwise you’re pretty much correct except I’d add Princess Luna.
The only reformations they got right were Moondancer, Trixie, and Diamond Tiara.
It is kinda frustarting, but I guess that Ahuizotl and Cabaleron reformation didn’t do trio any favors.
I can live with that.
That’s a good idea.
Here’s what should have been done
We actually get to see Grogar do something because he wasn’t some new guy who happened to be the final boss without any connection to Twilight.
That’s what I’ve been trying tell these guys.
Also I would say that complaints weren’t about reformations itself as a concept, but that they were poorly written. Frenemies for a chance had a fairly good set up for a possible redemption.
That just makes Discord even more evil than them.
I completely agree. I would switch Discord reformation with Chrysalis reformation anytime.
And it was all part of Discord’s true plan. He knew the fans hated seeing literally every villain in the show reforming so he decided to make three of them (four including Sombra) Irredeemable so fans would get what they want.
After the events of Daring Doubt
Fans: STOP REFORMING VILLAINS!
Hasbro: Ok, we’ll kill off Chrysalis, Tirek, and Cozy Glow
Fans: HOW DARE YOU NOT REFORM THEM!
Or along with the other villains in the finale.
If they were irredeemable, it’s thanks to Discord encouraging them to grab an an ancient artifact to become more powerful and attack Twilight at her coronation.
I remember watching the S8 finale when it was first leaked and saw Cozy imprisoned in Tartarus. I thought everyone would like it because for once a villain isn’t reforming. Instead I hear shit like “SHE’s JUST A CHILD!” and “WHY DIDN’T YOU REFORM HER?” Cozy Glow didn’t have a backstory, and the writers never even cared to discuss her parents, so we can assume she didn’t have any. Twilight wanted her killed and everyone, even Fluttershy (who said everycreature deserved kindness), celebrated her death.
There are three types of villain who cannot or don’t deserve to be reformed. Villains who are pure evil (approved by the villains wiki), Amoral villains who cannot understand good and evil (such as the malwurf or the parasprites), and villains who were evil just for the sake of it (they thought it was cool). It’s obvious Cozy was evil for the sake of it because she even called herself a villain and wanted to be bad, because she thought it was cool. It’s not worth trying to reform these types of villains.
True. God knows how many levels of self-denial Chrysalis is in.