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Background Pony #8997
@TexasUberAlles  
You’ve thoroughly evaded comprehension of every point I intended to make.
 
Firstly, I was not establishing an all-or-none dichotomy, I was condemning it. You said that the complainers are the only ones doing anything wrong, but I believe fault lies with both sides.
 
Secondly, your statement about creators not owing their audience anything would condemn civil and fair criticism along with all else. If people shouldn’t say anything bad about entertainment they’re given for free, then they should be expected to accept any flaw- including spelling and grammar errors, logical inconsistencies, breaks in characterization, and so on- without trying to correct it.
 
Thirdly, while criticism of entertainment is by definition subjective, it can still be highly useful. Knowing what bothers your audience is a very helpful thing for a writer, and while I find that the method in which these complaints were delivered was wrong, I have no patience for your endless condescension and insults toward anyone who wants to share their thoughts with the writers simply because their thoughts aren’t entirely positive or objective. You are, as I said before, throwing the baby out with the bathwater; taking issue with the very act of making a complaint when the method by which that act is carried out is far more important. For all the hostility and foolishness inherent in how this issue was brought up, it did take a productive direction eventually. See >>920805 for an example. Some of this was a waste of time, but not all.
 
Not all complaints are fair or helpful, but if no one pointed out anything they didn’t like, then nothing would ever get better. The problem does not lie in what was done here. It lies in how.
Somber Star
Whatever bird that's dumber than a duck. Imagine I made the effort to research that and make a new badge for it. - Either a complete retard or a full time moron, it's hard to tell which and frankly I don't care either way

If you’re going to say stupid shit, at least have the spine to make an account to associate with it rather than hiding behind a double-mask of anonymity.
MetaKnight145

@Background Pony #D39B  
So uh.  
What makes you think I’m butthurt? You sound like the one who is butthurt instead of me here.  
@Background Pony #D39B  
>being this fucking entitled to official staff bending over at your every whim and saying “Thank you sir,may i have another” every time the audience dont obtain exactly what they want
 
Also you seem like you might have a mental deficiency of some sort because you are unable to read simple english.  
Because  
“the whiny bitches that complain whenever an episode isn’t good
 
I may be stupid here but reading what I said here makes it almost seem like that I don’t like them either and I am giving everyone involved some level of fault.  
And that you saying that I am one of them desplays a lack of basic critical thinking.  
But this may just be me.
TexasUberAlles
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@Background Pony #36CE  
You seem to expect that I should make one of two mistakes
 
And you seem to be making up dialogue and pretending I said it; I think there’s probably a term for that. Just like it says on the tin, I was mocking your characterization of comments like “his hugbox of coc███kers” as being “artistic criticism”, because apparently you didn’t actually look at the image before deciding– to coin a phrase– to “paint with far too wide a brush”.
 
Contrary to the all-or-none false dichotomy you’re trying to establish, there is a distinct and immediately obvious difference between “artistic criticism” and “whining”, and only one of those is on display in this image; that Miller decided to be merely twee in response to a wave of outright shitposting from serial trashtalkers– whose sense of entitlement borders on self-parody– was already showing them more respect than they deserved.
 
I would hope you’d be glad that they helped the author find and correct errors  
How terribly magnanimous of you, to helpfully tell someone all the things they did ~objectively wrong~. Is it just completely beyond your comprehension that there are in fact people out there– many of them in the actual Target Audience, even!– who actually liked the episode? I didn’t really care for it all that much myself, and there were a couple of things about it that seriously irritated me, but somehow I was able to resist any urge to hit up the creators on social media and dump abuse on them for having dared to make an episode that didn’t conform exactly to my personal specifications. Complaining about things one dislikes on a fansite among other fans– or “fans” as is evidently the case– is one thing, but delivering those complaints with maximum assholishness directly to the content creators is above and beyond the pale, and is not by any honest accounting “artistic criticism”.
Background Pony #8997
@TexasUberAlles  
I don’t support the methods of the critics pictured here. However, you paint with far too wide a brush when you say that Jim’s response is without fault and the complainers are the only ones doing anything wrong.
 
You seem to expect that I should make one of two mistakes: either say the show staff are innocent angels and their critics are a bunch of entitled whiners, as you have, or that they’re irredeemably terrible and every bad thing said about them is right, as the anons in this screencap seem to think. Neither perspective is accurate. I find error not only in your extremist view of things, but in the logic that a person making a work of art for the enjoyment of others should not be expected to take into account how that work is received.
 
However, I expect to make little progress in this discussion. Even if I hadn’t encountered this sort of behavior from you multiple times before, the fact that your first instinct has been to mock what I say rather than addressing it respectfully would be a very large and distinctive red flag. You don’t follow your own rules, TexasUberAlles- you deride others for not showing respect, but display none yourself.
 
@Background Pony #D39B  
Again, do you simply think that critics should not exist? That no creators of TV shows should receive any negative feedback on their work? Because that is the conclusion we must come to if we follow the principle that they are owed compliments and gratitude simply for creating. While many of those complaining about Princess Spike were not civil in their methods, that is no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater. You wouldn’t use this argument on someone who pointed out misspelled words in a fanfic, would you? On the contrary, I would hope you’d be glad that they helped the author find and correct errors.
Background Pony #0B75
@Background Pony #D24F  
Io and behold what ammount as a “no you” from preschool.Your opinion is not as important as you think.  
The point is about entitled audience who think their “criticism” (who largely and regularly ammount to childish shitflinging as gospel truth
Background Pony #0B75
@MetaKnight145  
>being that buttblasted for a little “Thanks?” joke  
>not realising it’s the anon who was passive agressive by shoving carefully selected screencaps from the most populist shitpile of the Internet  
>being this fucking entitled to official staff bending over at your every whim and saying “Thank you sir,may i have another” every time the audience dont obtain exactly what they want  
>necroing this thread
 
 
@Background Pony #36CE  
Bart: Hey, I know it wasn’t great, but what right do you have to complain?  
Comic Book Guy: As a loyal viewer, I feel they owe me.  
Bart: What? They’re giving you thousands of hours of entertainment for free. What could they possibly owe you? I mean, if anything, you owe them!  
Comic Book Guy: …Worst episode ever.  
The Simpsons “The Itchy & Scratchy & Poochie Show” by David S.Cohen
MetaKnight145

No, he’s being passive aggressive.  
How anyone can deny that is really baffling.  
I’d have more respect for him if he just came out and said to deal with it to the whiny bitches that complain whenever an episode isn’t good instead of that passive aggressive disingenuous tweet.  
Everyone involved is an asshat. There are no innocents here.
Background Pony #28D9
and that disagreeing with us is unquestionably offensive and obscene.  
Bolded the important part,he have any right to disagree with the audience. Audience opinion is NOT THE GOSPEL TRUTH
Background Pony #28D9
From another thread
 
Jim is being so immature about this. All we’re asking is that he smile while we tell him he’s a horrible writer, that he praise us for telling him he’s shit tier in the tens of thousands, and that we the fans should be able to control who he does or does not associate with for the good of the show, and that disagreeing with us is unquestionably offensive and obscene.
 
What a baby.
Background Pony #244A
@Background Pony #0C09  
Fair enough; personally, I take his first tweet above to be a humorous spin on such an apology, though I can understand people wishing for a more straightforward, less jocular statement.
Background Pony #8997
@Background Pony #5B7C  
@Background Pony #DD8A  
I was thinking something along the lines of “I see some folks were disappointed with today’s ep. I’m sorry to hear that and I hope you can still enjoy the rest of this season”. No groveling, no placing blame on himself or anyone else, just an acknowledgement that someone was disappointed and a few condolences that don’t involve trying to direct attention away from the subject.
Background Pony #244A
@Background Pony #0C09  
I expect they do take negative criticisms into account, as long as they’re expressed with a modicum of respect and show some contact with reality. That’s certainly not what I’m seeing in the /mlp/ comments quoted above. There have been some insightful criticisms given for this episode, and some of those have even been expressed respectfully, which is a good thing; this episode could have used a bit more criticism in the writing stage, to be honest.
 
@Background Pony #0C09  
Honest question: What apology should he have given? Can you give an example of an apology that you would be happy with?
Background Pony #28D9
@Background Pony #0C09  
Guy shove a thread of 4Chan,the most aggressive people on the internet in his face  
You expect him to bend over and say “Thank you sir,may i have another.I’ve been a baaaaaaaaad writer.  
He have any right to be sarcastic about it and if the other tweets is any indication,he’s willing to listen to criticism