The Pizza Thread - With a Side of Toxic-Mario

Background Pony #252F
@Background Pony #34A6  
He blocked me from twitter for posting the links to people who were asking what happened
 
It would be extremely easy to disprove, since he apparently has evidence  
But he’d rather ignore the problem and hope it goes away
Background Pony #BB9C
I am only gonna throw my 2 cents in here and then that’s it. I am a regular in T-Ms streams and I do remember him working on this every night on this pic. There wasn’t any tracing of anything as I remember seeing from start to finish on this. He pretty much uses paths and the picture in question I know he was referring too cause we could see it but nothing I could see over the 5 hours was ever traced and even the days beyond that. I personally don’t mind if Toxic doesn’t come in here to discuss this here cause to me he’s got nothing to hide since he works on stuff in front of us and that is something he likes to do. Anyway just wanted to throw that in there.
Background Pony #F2D9
@Background Pony #DD4A  
sorry, but the image speaks clear, it’s traced, you must show us proof that it’s not the case. He says he has proof, but refuses to show it.  
Also, his banning everyone asking for explanations on his twitter and deviantart is pretty shady
Background Pony #BB9C
@Background Pony #34A6  
Look I know you gonna say whatever you all want but as I said, I know what I saw. You can white knight label me or whatever. I don’t think Toxic needs to go any further but that’s my opinion anyway.
Background Pony #252F
@Background Pony #DD4A  
You’d understand why “confirmation from an anonymous source who claims to be a regular but offers no proof but their own anonymous word” is not enough to sway people right?
Background Pony #252F
@Background Pony #DD4A  
Well nah, I provided the overlay of the picture Toxic traced on top of the picture Toxic claimed he made  
So that’s proof and evidence
 
You don’t need to take MY word for it, unlike what you’re asking for, I already submitted my share of the evidence to the discussion.
Background Pony #F2D9
It’s not an accusation made without evidence. The image is clearly traced, you can all see it with your eyes. He only resized some parts and put rarity face on it.
He said he was gonna make merchandise on it and that it was successful at cons.
He never cited the original artist and tried to delete the trace tag twice.
Also he’s refusing to show evidence he claim will clear his name.
These are all facts, no exageration.
It probably is the only traced pic, but it is traced and he had the intention to sell it or to promote his merchandise.
We are pointing out that this is unacceptable behavior and that if he keeps doing it he will end up like drawpony.
 
add to this his that he is banning from deviantart and twitter anyone that posts the comparison image or this discussion.
 
I don’t want people to harrass him, but when someone keeps avoiding the issue and negating the evidence without countering them (yet claiming he could, but he chooses not), then he deserves to be politely questioned about.
Background Pony #BB9C
@Background Pony #4BAA  
I still don’t see a perfect match if that’s what you’re saying and I don’t see the same level of detail.
 
@Background Pony #34A6  
and this I don’t blame him either for people keeping themselves anonymous either. I threw in my 2 cents to the matter so you can believe me or not I don’t care. This whole thing seems so blown out of proportion.
Background Pony #252F
@Background Pony #DD4A  
He did not trace the entire thing, he traced the torso area, the hips, the shorts, belt, and the back.  
Also if you enlarge the arms proportionately and move them to where they are in the Rarity picture, they also line up
Background Pony #BB9C
Anyway this entire thing seems really trivial and only a handful of people actually wanting to stir the pot on something I just don’t see. But I digress, thanks for your time.
Background Pony #F2D9
@Background Pony #DD4A  
it’s a 90% perfect match. i tried, the arms too match almost flawlessly once the image is scaled. so all he did was just moving them a bit ad resizing them.  
That still constitues tracing. The alterations are not enough to make it it’s own work. If he just came clean and said “ok, i found this hot pose of yoko and thought rarity would fit it perfectly”. Instead he went “look how amazing i draw, people at cons love this and i’m gonna make merchandise out of it”.
 
Do people really have such little grasp of what tracing it? Just because something is changed that doesn’t make it less of a trace.
Background Pony #F2D9
@Background Pony #DD4A  
you… you don’t understand that selling traced artwork is slightly illegal, other than being something a true artist would never do, do you?
 
It’s not trivial, as his behaviour on this topic pretty much tells me (and i bet others too) that he doesn’t give a fuck about doing this and he will probably continue.
Background Pony #AF39
What makes it worse is how he completely dismisses the problem and keeps posting comments and tweets how it’s all, quote, ‘utter silliness xD’ Drawponies at least had decency to ignore the problem without laughing at people. Toxic not only has no remorse but tries to fight back. Lol
Background Pony #252F
Yeah, I’m talking to one of his fans right now, it’s an endless circle of “show me proof” and then I show it and then he’s like “You still haven’t shown me actual proof”
 
This really is like Drawponies all over again. To this very day there are people who insist Drawponies did not trace a single thing, and will never be convinced otherwise.
 
Also, Toxic Mario deleted a tweet playing down the events of yesterday after it devolved into people looking at the links and researching for themselves  
https://tweetsave.com/toxic_mario/status/806308782745747456
 
>worried Twilight gif  
HMM
Background Pony #AF39
People might be afraid Toxic-Mario will send rabid fans after those writing here so people hide behind BGP’s.
Background Pony #F2D9
@Zebasiz  
what should we do? I mean, with this question still opened.  
I have my artist pride and i’m not sure if i’m willing to forget and forgive, especially when he keeps calling all of this “utterly silly”.
Background Pony #F2D9
Well, i do that too. Since i really want to get to the bottom of this question i don’t want to risk being harrassed. You may say it’s an irrational fear and that Toxic wouldn’t do such thing.  
Maybe it’s true, but i don’t wanna risk.
Background Pony #AF39
I would like Horse-News to write an article on it like they did on drawponies. It’s possible to submit your own article to horse news. Maybe they will publish it if they get one. Anyone good at writing here?
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