Religious Disscusion Thread

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Matthew 5:33-37, Ecclesiastes 5:5, and James 5:2 warn readers not to make promises, because failing to keep them will lead to worse things.
For vulgar and bad words, Ephesians 4:15 and 5:4, and Proverbs 4:24 prohibit such from being spoken.
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Ephesians 4:15
But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:
That has nothing to do with swearing.
Ephesians 5:4
Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks.
This raises the question of what is considered getting in the way of giving thanks? And how is being a fool and saying fuck connected in this case?
Proverbs 4:24
Put away from thee a froward mouth, and perverse lips put far from thee.
This is about being deceitful and double-talking, not lying.
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Or that what God sees isn’t “dirty words,” but insulting others. I saw a quote that was basically “don’t use foul words, but uplift others instead,” heavily implying that foul/dirty words in God’s eyes are insults, not swearing. I can’t find the quote (I looked), but if I could I would have quoted it.
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Daniel 11:37
Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.
If I’m reading this correctly, it sounds like God very much value to opinion of women highly.
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2 Kings 6:15-17 And when the servant of the man of God arose early and went out, there was an army, surrounding the city with horses and chariots. And his servant said to him, “Alas, my master! What shall we do?” So he answered, “Do not fear, for those who are with us are more than those who are with them.” And Elisha prayed, and said, “Lord, I pray, open his eyes that he may see.” Then the Lord opened the eyes of the young man, and he saw. And behold, the mountain was full of horses and chariots of fire all around Elisha.
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The king mentioned in Daniel 11:20-45 is likely Antiochus IV Epiphanes. Gods of his fathers seem to be some unspecified Greek gods. “The desire of women” likely refers to Adonis. “God of fortresses” in verse 38 possibly refers to Capitoline Zeus/Jupiter.
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Is there any passage in the bible against masturbation? I know that’s against sleeping before marriage, but what about masturbation? What about animated porn? Still art?
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Regarding masturbation, the story of Onan is the only one that comes to my mind right now, though there may be more. In general, it’s not entirely clear whether Onan’s sin was to selfishly go against his obligations regarding levirate marriage (he was supposed to impregnate Tamar), to practice coitus interruptus, or to spill his seed on the ground. (Or some combination of these three possibilities.) The first possibility seems to be the most likely. The third is often used as “evidence” that masturbation is bad (since male masturbation usually involves spilling seed). I’m not sure how valid that argument is, it seems somewhat weak. Though personally, I do avoid masturbation anyway, just in case.
Since masturbation usually involves sexual imaginations or porn, those areas also need to be considered.
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I doubt it’s masturbation since other than a few minutes to “recharge,” it wouldn’t prevent someone from impregnating a woman.
And again, what is its view on animated and drawn porn? I have now doubt those existed during the OT, so if God cared that much he would have mention them.
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Now that I’ve got my life a little more stable in terms of the more secular aspects, I’m going to fulfill a personal little quest of mine.
Going to become an active member of the ADF (a druidic group I’ve been a member of for years) and work my way up to be an actual druid. My goal is to be able to officiate weddings, as well as offer clergy services to the small but growing pagan community in my hometown.
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Here’s a fun question: Does the bible explicitly say that marriage can only be between two people? Asking since the OT had David and the guy who wore sheep skin to fool his father (his name escapes me) as people who didn’t follow that rule but were rarely punished for it.
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Refer to Jesus’ words in the New Testament for that. It doesn’t mention it precisely (at least not in English,) but “Anyone who looks at a woman to lust for her, has already committed adultery in his heart.” That seems to be regardless whether it’s porn of actual people or fictional characters. Why? Because looking at porn often can be to masturbate to it, and that habit can then cause people to (unintentionally) suddenly sexually long after actual people instead of porn (the lust isn’t “contained,” so it seems.) So I’d think Jesus would still be against it.
That said, I’m not quite sure if a Christian spouse is biblically allowed to sexually fantasize and masturbate to thoughts of sex with his/her husband/wife. I’d think that would be OK, judging by Proverbs 5:15 - 5:23 (“Drink waters from your own cistern, running waters out of your own well. Let your fountains be dispersed abroad, and rivers of waters in the streets. Let them be only your own, and not strangers’ with you. Let your fountain be blessed, and rejoice with the wife of your youth. Let her be as the loving hind and pleasant roe; let her breasts satisfy you at all times, and be you always ravished with her love. And why will you, my son, be ravished with a strange woman, and embrace the bosom of a stranger? For the ways of man are before [in front of] the eyes of the LORD [Yahweh] and he ponders all his goings. His own iniquities shall take the wicked himself, and he shall be held with the cords of his sins. He shall die without instruction; and in the greatness of his folly he shall go astray.”) though I wonder if I’m quite on track here, or if I misunderstood ancient words. I did change some of those verses in an attempt to clear things up if they weren’t as clear as they could be.
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I have a question?Someday I will be baptized but am afraid of messing up after that.For example I watch porn sometimes and Jackoff sometimes.I ask my mother is porn bad she told no.I just want to know.
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Finally got to the NT, and have some thoughts. I read the King James version, if that matters to anyone.
Matthew 1:16
And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ.
Funny how it talks about the of Joseph, but since he isn’t Jesus’s father, he’s married to Jesus’s human mother instead of begetting Jesus. Maybe it’s to show that bloodlines aren’t everything.
Matthew 5:22
But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
This I feel is largely ignored. It feels like people will quickly make excuses to be upset at others, most of said excuses wouldn’t fly pass God. From just not liking someone and wanting to be upset at them to using their physical traits or birth as justification, people want to hate others.
Matthew 5:43-47
Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.
But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.
For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?
And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so?
But this one takes the cake for me. This one is straight up calling out echo chambers and how just because you’re nice to people in your echo chamber, doesn’t mean you’re a good person. This is a lesson that people need to learn, but refuses to in order to not have to acknowledge their own flaws. It’s easy to be kind to those who like you, but hard to be kind to those who hate you.
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