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That’s not how pedophilia works. Most people who are into loli don’t like actual children. That’s on the level of Twitter Anti behavior and a slippery slope, and you know it.
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@Meanlucario
An image is of a real person, a drawing is fictional, stop trying to equate the two, stop with the “it enables them” and the “they need mental help”
You’re just flat out wrong.
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@Meanlucario
If it would be like you say, we would have an army of bestiality folk here. And anyone who likes gore wants to do mutilate someone/something in real life and did you know… violent video games make for violent people, etc etc.
And if it was like that all the boorus, even squeaky clean manebooru would have to shut down as running them in good conscious wouldn’t be possible.
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If someone is into a specific kink but keeps it totally fictional it is not directly equatable to expressing that kink in real life. As the move to expressing it in real life requires additional actions, behaviors, thoughts, and often times compounding kinks such as a fetish for domination/bdsm/etc.
So someone that looks at animated underaged characters is not, necessarily, a pedophile.
That being said, if you enjoy and draw sexual gratification from drawings of underaged females, and specifically because they are underaged (not just because boobs are boobs/drawn like they’re adults) then yes you have tendencies that would lean toward pedophilic interests. And there is no denying that. Otherwise, their age would be irrelevant to your interests.
It would be like enjoying apple pie, baked apples, and apple crumbles but never liking raw apples. You can specify that you only like apples in certain ways, but it would be totally wrong to say that you are in no way a fan of apples and not interested in eating them.
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I’ve seen more examples of transgressions against real minors by the crowd who equates loli to legally actionable CSEM than from those who, whether they find loli gross or not, draw a distinction.
@Meanlucario
I think you’d get your mind blown if you knew some of the methods therapists have been reported to suggest patients use to cope with such issues or other psychological traumas.
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I’m not saying that loli porn is the same as that, just that it isn’t helping. I’m fully against doing fucked-up stuff to children.
And therapists are always 100% right and can always see the long-term ratification, especially when it feels like there has been no actual deep-dive into the subject.
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@Meanlucario
Who is?
You do know that demonizing people who like loli does nothing to help actual victims of underage abuse?
@Seiken
This, exactly! Equating people who are into loli to pedos, is the same exact precedent as saying people who like pony porn want to fuck irl horses, or people that like drawn gore want to get off to irl gore. It just doesn’t work that way.
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It’s called trying to prevent pedos from committing a crime. I’m not talking about those who enjoy being a pedo, but to help those who suffer get the treatment they need and have much less of a risk doing something they will regret.
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@Meanlucario
People who like underage art aren’t pedos. They don’t “need help”. In fact it can be a coping mechanism for some who have tendencies to not pursue pedophiliac tendencies. But most people just like the art.
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@Mikey
To correct you, according to Dictionary.com: a person who is sexually attracted to children. Not that they don’t need to be real to be a pedo.
@Vivace
That’s a very good work for it.
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@Meanlucario
By your logic, the plentiful pony porn on this website doesn’t help any of us. If loli porn encourages pedos to go out and violate real kids, I’m seeing a serious lack of people plowing real horse ass. I’d like it to stay that way.
And therapists are always 100% right and can always see the long-term ratification, especially when it feels like there has been no actual deep-dive into the subject.
Sounds like a back pedal.
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Technically the full diagnostic definition does include unhealthy interests and/or obsessions with fictional depictions of minors.
If we’re arguing semantics, then yes “pedophilic behavior” does primarily involve the actual minors or real-life depictions, but from a technical standpoint fictional depictions (including pictureless stories) are factors.
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TBH I’ve seen a lotta assholes from both sides of the lolicon debate but from personal experience I’ve seen a lot more assholes/bad behaviour from the pro side
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