Vent thread

@Ainz Ooal Gown  
left winger liberals?

@Ainz Ooal Gown
 
In-group/out-group bias taken to its logical extreme.
 
With the added spice of the ever popular Just World Hypothesis and teleological thinking.
 
“My side is right always, your side is wrong always, and this is how it is ordained by nature/God/history”.

@Ainz Ooal Gown  
Oh my gosh so much yes. I accidentally used an Osaka-sounding verb form and everyone stopped everything they were doing to “fix me” so I could appear in polite society.

@That1GuyGAMER18
 
This is a human thing that many groups are guilty of. I can cite 1000 examples of such.
 
Avoid specific expressions lest you incur my ever present wrath.

@That1GuyGAMER18  
That’s something that would be nice to keep out of this thread, please.

@Zincy  
Even I know objectivism isn’t the true state of the world. But these people think that this “Just World” hypothesis is something they believe and its the end all be all of their thought process? Come to think of it that’s the way I act when I get worked up about something I believe in albeit differently.

Many of the psychological biases that aided out ancestors have been rendered obsolete in a modern, pluralized society.
 
We still have the brains of rock-smashing hunter gatherers. Only difference is now we can split the atom.

@Derpy Whooves  
Ive heard about that happening in Japan but I didn’t think it was racial in scope.

@Ainz Ooal Gown
 
It’s a favorite of evangelicals as well. In fact, the name comes from a famous Christian thinker, John Bradford, who was one of the thinkers that proposed the idea that you “deserve” your place in the world. I.e., the world is inherently just, therefore if you are poor/in jail/sick it is your fault.

@Derpy Whooves  
Sorry.

@Zincy  
Except it’s not a just world. Being poor can come from many different reasons. Some the fault of the person and some not. Jail is the same, except where criminal acts are concerned of course, unless you are falsely accused and are sent to prison. As for sickness? Can be accidental or delibrate depending on the circumstances. Typhoid Mary comes to mind.

@Ainz Ooal Gown
 
They would argue that it is part of Gods plan, or that it is divine punishment for an otherwise sinful life.
 
Or, the more common refrain of the JWH lately, one that a former member of this very site was a fan of, is the “you’re poor because you’re too lazy to get a job”. The same shit, just a different, less religious, asshole.

@Ainz Ooal Gown  

 
The answer is clearly no, but it’s kind of funny from what many have seen in recent years.
 
Mostly the people that Need racism, will make anything a racist issue no matter what, because it’s the only thing they have to use, (much like with sexism, victimhood and the such) and 9 times if not 10 out of 10- Those people tend to be the most racist while believe they’re a “moral good”
 
The “white savior” as it is, will act only to show how virtuous they are “I didn’t pick you because of your credentials, I picked you because you’ll make me look good. I love me!” Or those that believe that those people are too ignorant to know right from wrong, we should think for them. Blatantly trying to take away the agency, because they believe they are to Shepard those to the right path- and any that don’t aren’t worthy of any sort of protection against the supposed “Bigotry” they go on about fighting and usually sling it at them.
 
All this talk about “representation” is a great example of racism. They just give hand-me-down tokenized characters and say it’s for representation, in stead of developing new characters and having them stand entirely on their own. It’s almost a-kin giving table scraps to a staving person with bits of meat on the bone and brag about “I helped the poor.”
 
The biggest thing they will always project it all onto others they’ve deemed acceptable targets.
 
We saw this with another incident where many calling people who were just fed up with how they were portrayed by those meant to be their voice, and in time; Many were and had done the horrible actions they claimed the other of being.
 
And they hate the mirror.

@Zincy  
I am agnostic. I haven’t been to church in over 10 years…

@Ainz Ooal Gown  
Difference cultures, at different times, have different opinions about what constitutes “race”.
 
100 years ago, the Irish and Italians were considered “Black” on U.S. census forms, and Italians were not allowed to marry “Whites”.
 
In Japan everyone grew up being able to tell the difference between the different places the Japanese people came from.
 
I came to be able to recognize the differences between the different Japanese races and Koreans and Chinese and some Philippines and people from Taiwan. For me the differences were unbelievably subtle until I started “getting it”. After I’d been there long enough I was finally able to sort out the “What am I supposed to think about this person” so I could at least use the right verb forms.
 
Because even in Japan you don’t want to sound like you’re from their version of “the Ozarks” if you want people to take you seriously.
 
I remember sitting in a bar talking with a friend about trying to figure out how to tell whether someone is Korean or not, because at the time that was the BIG thing that you were supposed to keep straight. And in the middle of talking he realized I had a different skin color than him and he said; “Oh my god you’re white! I’d forgotten”. Which was fine, because, like, he was ok with me being light skinned and I’d forgiven him for being an Australian. So it was cool.
 
You get into a place like Japan, where all of the bigotries are COMPLETELY different - like, not even close to what you grew up with - and all of a sudden you find yourself caring a heck of a lot less about the things your folks or home town taught you about “who to look out for”.

@Derpy Whooves  
1 to 10 how racist are all of the Asian nations against each other (including to people inside their own nations) in comparison to the U.S.?  
For example; US~~? Asian nations~~?

@Zincy  
I’ve always considered that kind of thinking to be very backwards, borderline dangerous even. It’s just victim blaming, really. There’s far too many situations in our modern world where terrible circumstances can befall people who have otherwise attempted to lead stable and constructive lives:
 
War, famine, disease, mental illness, etc.
 
If Ibrahim gets shot to death in Syria because of an out-of-the blue resource raid on his village by a religious extremist group, it’s somehow his fault?
 
If Petra discovers that she’s been rendered infertile due to genetic mutations passed down to her from her biological mother as a result of radiation poisoning from the Chernobyl disaster, it’s her fault that she can’t have children?
 
If Kenichi’s been left homeless due to an 8.0 Earthquake suddenly sacking rural Osaka, it’s his fault?
 
I’m havin’ none of that hogwash, yo.

@Joseph Raszagal  

 
It’s his geologic fault!  

@Anonycat  
CARLOS!!

@Ainz Ooal Gown  

 
In retrospect that makes sense.
 
Here i was thinking it was Zootopia rules before Zootopia.

Goddamn I hate paying land rates. Paying for what I already own feels like being fleeced.

God dammit!

@Zincy  
Except that, as a general rule, many of people are in a poor financial situation because of stupidity and/or laziness. I can unfortunately point out several family members as an example of this.

@zerowinger66  
Anecdotal evidence isn’t indicative of it being a widespread problem.

Man, my stomach has been gurgly for days now…. If I wasn’t so broke, I’d have gotten a bottle of Pepto…
 
 
The cherry flavor. Because I’m not a barbarian.