HorsesandMuchMOAR
Gallusposting since 2019
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[bq]If you consider sexual orientation the result of an "illness" that can be "cured", does that mean you consider being heterosexual equally a "sickness" that can be "cured"?[/bq]
Personally, I do not think so, but it could be possible if some government managed to find a way to do so.
[bq]And what of bi- or poly-sexuals and non-binaries or people who are sapiosexuals? What kind of "cure" do you envision for them? Are you intending that all of them should be forced into an "either-or" lifestyle, against their own will and contrary to what god has gifted them with at birth?[/bq]
Some conservatives wanted it this way, and they would regard bi's as if they were homosexuals.
[bq]Are you talking about an Iain Banks style science fiction world where people choose their hormonal responses to others based on their current social situation and based entirely on their own free will, or a dystopian state where everyone is "corrected" according to the dictates of some horrificly invasive state that destroys personal freedom to the level of deciding for its citizens who they will and will not be allowed to fall in love with?[/bq]
Both, depending on the government that uses said "changes to sexual orientation": some governments would treat it as a recreational drug to alter the consumer's mind, while others use it to force people to be heterosexual for religious or cultural reasons. That is the scenario of my question.
[bq]Even assuming this is some sort of intellectual exercise intended to come up with an interesting plot for a story, what kind of world are you envisioning here, where even the most fundamental aspects of life are considered a "sicknesses" to be "cured"?[/bq]
A world with the worst possibilities based on recent political trends and Internet trolls -- from said "cure" and its results on international politics, to haywire governments with murderous laws and extreme agendas. For example, Country X seeks to kill all suspected bigots, while Country Y executes supposed "deviants" for the sake of its religion. And Country Z has to choose whether to pick a side, or stay neutral and be condemned by those sides.
[bq]If the state you envision would dictate even love and feel justified in chemically "fixing" its members against their will, how would it respond to children who are left handed? Or people who pray to minority gods? Or who vote for minority parties? Or who are themselves minorities?[/bq]
That reminds me of the Soviet government's "treatment":https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_abuse_of_psychiatry_in_the_Soviet_Union of dissidents as "mentally ill". Perhaps the same governments that try to "cure" LGBTQs in such a manner might go as far as apply similar, forceful treatments towards dissidents, and brainwash them into following their respective ideologies (e.g. fascism, religious fundamentalism, communism, etc.)
[bq]If you consider sexual orientation the result of an "illness" that can be "cured", does that mean you consider being heterosexual equally a "sickness" that can be "cured"?[/bq]
Personally, I do not think so, but it could be possible if some government managed to find a way to do so.
[bq]And what of bi- or poly-sexuals and non-binaries or people who are sapiosexuals? What kind of "cure" do you envision for them? Are you intending that all of them should be forced into an "either-or" lifestyle, against their own will and contrary to what god has gifted them with at birth?[/bq]
Some conservatives wanted it this way, and they would regard bi's as if they were homosexuals.
[bq]Are you talking about an Iain Banks style science fiction world where people choose their hormonal responses to others based on their current social situation and based entirely on their own free will, or a dystopian state where everyone is "corrected" according to the dictates of some horrificly invasive state that destroys personal freedom to the level of deciding for its citizens who they will and will not be allowed to fall in love with?[/bq]
Both, depending on the government that uses said "changes to sexual orientation": some governments would treat it as a recreational drug to alter the consumer's mind, while others use it to force people to be heterosexual for religious or cultural reasons. That is the scenario of my question.
[bq]Even assuming this is some sort of intellectual exercise intended to come up with an interesting plot for a story, what kind of world are you envisioning here, where even the most fundamental aspects of life are considered a "sicknesses" to be "cured"?[/bq]
A world with the worst possibilities based on recent political trends and Internet trolls -- from said "cure" and its results on international politics, to haywire governments with murderous laws and extreme agendas. For example, Country X seeks to kill all suspected bigots, while Country Y executes supposed "deviants" for the sake of its religion. And Country Z has to choose whether to pick a side, or stay neutral and be condemned by those sides.
[bq]If the state you envision would dictate even love and feel justified in chemically "fixing" its members against their will, how would it respond to children who are left handed? Or people who pray to minority gods? Or who vote for minority parties? Or who are themselves minorities?[/bq]
That reminds me of the Soviet government's "treatment":https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_abuse_of_psychiatry_in_the_Soviet_Union of dissidents as "mentally ill". Perhaps the same governments that try to "cure" LGBTQs in such a manner might go as far as apply similar, forceful treatments towards dissidents, and brainwash them into following their respective ideologies (e.g. fascism, religious fundamentalism, communism, etc.)