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When I the caveman make a value judgement, what I mean is that: drawing from my personal experience and personal library of references of what I have previously enjoyed or disliked, I, find said tropes or collection of tropes or implementation of tropes to be enjoyable, not enjoyable, or anywhere in between.[/bq]

 
Subjectivity isn't a get out of jail free card. Just because it's pretty much the universal standard doesn't mean that you can throw it out there and immediately defuse any criticisms people have of your opinions. Functioning discourse doesn't work that way, and for good reason - it's anti-intellectual and pretty much always a cheap rhetoric tactic to try to stifle what the other side is saying without actually challenging it in any way.


 
That aside, though - I explicitly acknowledged in the first post that there's preference and value judgements at play and I said I don't give a shit about it, because what I was attacking had nothing to do with your personal preferences in the sense of what you can and can't like/dislike. That's irrelevant, and you'd know as much if you actually read what you were responding to instead of making a knee-jerk reaction. I'm not a strawman for you to misrepresent in an attempt to make excuses for your stupidity.


 
I was being critical of how utterly and insanely short-sighted these criticisms are, and how damaging it would be if most series they're typically leveraged at began doing things the way that's being called for. And, worse yet, all of these issues stem from it because the idea itself is fundamentally myopic. Nothing more, nothing less, and trying to play the relativism card won't sidestep that. Of course I don't like or think much of what they're meant to represent whenever that's the case. I'm not gonna fuckin' like an opinion that's the equivalent of taking a functioning building, burning it down, defecating on the ashes, and then acts like the building is better off this way. The criticism itself is so short-sighted about what it'd mean in application that it can't see how burning the building down is destroying it. It's asinine. There's a reason it fell out of favor years ago, only being kept alive inside little, isolated bubbles like this one - it's a criticism that is an absolute black hole of nuance. You sound dumb by making a point out of it, and the only way it can be kept alive is in a vacuum where everyone else is dumb enough to help perpetuate the idea itself.


 
Hence, broaden your fucking horizons. The entire theme and point of that post. Just fucking think a bit instead of trying to database everything as good or bad in ridiculously black and white ways, and then trying to use subjectivity to excuse that absolutely ass-backwards way of criticizing things. You can either get mad and desperately cling on to subjectivity as an excuse to make shitty, thoughtless, short-sighted criticisms, or you can learn to look at things from a variety of different perspectives to come to a more nuanced conclusion on the topic. You can either think "what is in the series?" or you can think "how/why is it like this?" when trying to look at what writing tools any given series is using. You've chosen the former, and you get mad about being challenged on sticking with the former. Do I think this is stupid? Yes. Hence, Caveman. That seems to have bothered you, but you sure as fuck have earned the title, acting like so.


 
Keep clinging to your position and never get blown off of it. Your opinions are sacrosanct because of subjectivity, and all discussion ends there.
No reason given
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ghostfacekiller39
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"@tehwatever":/forums/generals/topics/general-anime-thread?post_id=5076035#post_5076035
[bq="tehwatever"]

When I the caveman make a value judgement, what I mean is that: drawing from my personal experience and personal library of references of what I have previously enjoyed or disliked, I, find said tropes or collection of tropes or implementation of tropes to be enjoyable, not enjoyable, or anywhere in between.[/bq]
Subjectivity isn't a get out of jail free card. Just because it's pretty much the universal standard doesn't mean that you can throw it out there and immediately defuse any criticisms people have of your opinions. Functioning discourse doesn't work that way, and for good reason - it's anti-intellectual and pretty much always a cheap rhetoric tactic to try to stifle what the other side is saying without actually challenging it in any way.

That aside, though - I explicitly acknowledged in the first post that there's preference and value judgements at play and I said I don't give a shit about it, because what I was attacking had nothing to do with your personal preferences in the sense of what you can and can't like/dislike. That's irrelevant, and you'd know as much if you actually read what you were responding to instead of making a knee-jerk reaction. I'm not a strawman for you to misrepresent in an attempt to make excuses for your stupidity.

I was being critical of how utterly and insanely short-sighted these criticisms are, and how damaging it would be if most series they're typically leveraged at began doing things the way that's being called for. And, worse yet, all of these issues stem from it because the idea itself is fundamentally myopic. Nothing more, nothing less, and trying to play the relativism card won't sidestep that. Of course I don't like or think much of what they're meant to represent whenever that's the case. I'm not gonna fuckin' like an opinion that's the equivalent of taking a functioning building, burning it down, defecating on the ashes, and then saying actings like it'dhe beuilding is better off this way. The criticism itself is so short-sighted about what it'd mean in application that it can't see how burning the building down is destroying it. It's asinine. There's a reason it fell out of favor years ago, only being kept alive inside little, isolated bubbles like this one. I- it's a criticism that is an absolute black hole of nuance. You sound dumb by making a point out of it, and the only way it can be kept alive is in a vacuum where everyone else is dumb enough to help perpetuate the idea itself.

Hence, broaden your fucking horizons. The entire theme and point of that post. Just fucking think a bit instead of trying to database everything as good or bad in ridiculously black and white ways. You can either get mad and desperately cling on to subjectivity as an excuse to make shitty, thoughtless, short-sighted criticisms, or you can learn to look at things from a variety of different perspectives to come to a more nuanced conclusion on the topic. You can either think "what is in the series?" or you can think "how/why is it like this?" when trying to look at what writing tools any given series is using. You've chosen the former, and you get mad about being challenged on sticking with the former. Do I think this is stupid? Yes. Hence, Caveman. That seems to have bothered you, but you sure as fuck have earned the title, acting like so.

Keep clinging to your position and never get blown off of it. Your opinions are sacrosanct because of subjectivity, and all discussion ends there.
No reason given
Edited by ghostfacekiller39
ghostfacekiller39
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Sunny Day Realtor
"@tehwatever":/forums/generals/topics/general-anime-thread?post_id=5076035#post_5076035
[bq="tehwatever"]

When I the caveman make a value judgement, what I mean is that: drawing from my personal experience and personal library of references of what I have previously enjoyed or disliked, I, find said tropes or collection of tropes or implementation of tropes to be enjoyable, not enjoyable, or anywhere in between.[/bq]
Subjectivity isn't a get out of jail free card. Just because it's pretty much the universal standard doesn't mean that you can throw it out there and immediately defuse any criticisms people have of your opinions. Functioning discourse doesn't work that way, and for good reason - it's anti-intellectual and pretty much always a cheap rhetoric tactic to try to stifle what the other side is saying without actually challenging it in any way.

That aside, though - I explicitly acknowledged in the first post that there's preference and value judgements at play and I said I don't give a shit about it, because what I was attacking had nothing to do with your personal preferences in the sense of what you can and can't like/dislike. That's irrelevant, and you'd know as much if you actually read what you were responding to instead of making a knee-jerk reaction. I'm not a strawman for you to misrepresent in an attempt to make excuses for your stupidity.

I was being critical of how utterly and insanely short-sighted these criticisms are, and how damaging it would be if most series they're typically leveraged at began doing things the way that's being called for. And, worse yet, all of these issues stem from it because the idea itself is fundamentally myopic. Nothing more, nothing less, and trying to play the relativism card won't sidestep that. Of course I don't like or think much of what they're meant to represent whenever that's the case. I'm not gonna fuckin' like an opinion that's the equivalent of taking a functioning building, burning it down, defecating on the ashes, and then saying acting like it'd be better off this way. The criticism itself is so short-sighted about what it'd mean in application that it can't see how burning the building down is destroying it. It's asinine. There's a reason it fell out of favor years ago, only being kept alive inside little, isolated bubbles like this one. It's a criticism that is an absolute black hole of nuance. You sound dumb by making a point out of it, and the only way it can be kept alive is in a vacuum where everyone else is dumb enough to help perpetuate the idea itself.

Hence, broaden your fucking horizons. The entire theme and point of that post. Just fucking think a bit instead of trying to database everything as good or bad in ridiculously black and white ways. You can either get mad and desperately cling on to subjectivity as an excuse to make shitty, thoughtless, short-sighted criticisms, or you can learn to look at things from a variety of different perspectives to come to a more nuanced conclusion on the topic. You can either think "what is in the series?" or you can think "how/why is it like this?" when trying to look at what writing tools any given series is using. You've chosen the former, and you get mad about being challenged on sticking with the former. Do I think this is stupid? Yes. Hence, Caveman. That seems to have bothered you, but you sure as fuck have earned the title, acting like so.

Keep clinging to your position and never get blown off of it. Your opinions are sacrosanct because of subjectivity, and all discussion ends there.
No reason given
Edited by ghostfacekiller39
ghostfacekiller39
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"@tehwatever":/forums/generals/topics/general-anime-thread?post_id=5076035#post_5076035
[bq="tehwatever"]

When I the caveman make a value judgement, what I mean is that: drawing from my personal experience and personal library of references of what I have previously enjoyed or disliked, I, find said tropes or collection of tropes or implementation of tropes to be enjoyable, not enjoyable, or anywhere in between.[/bq]
Subjectivity isn't a get out of jail free card. Just because it's pretty much the universal standard doesn't mean that you can throw it out there and immediately defuse any criticisms people have of your opinions. Functioning discourse doesn't work that way, and for good reason - it's anti-intellectual and pretty much always a cheap rhetoric tactic to try to stifle what the other side is saying without actually challenging it in any way.

That aside, though - I explicitly acknowledged in the first post that there's preference and value judgements at play and I said I don't give a shit about it, because what I was attacking had nothing to do with your personal preferences in the sense of what you can and can't like/dislike. That's irrelevant, and you'd know as much if you actually read what you were responding to instead of making a knee-jerk reaction. I'm not a strawman for you to misrepresent in an attempt to make excuses for your stupidity.

I was being critical of how utterly and insanely short-sighted these criticisms are, and how damaging it would be if most series they're typically leveraged at began doing things the way that's being called for. And, worse yet, all of these issues stem from it because the idea itself is fundamentally myopic. Nothing more, nothing less, and trying to play the relativism card won't sidestep that. Of course I don't like or think much of what they're meant to represent whenever that's the case. I'm not gonna fuckin' like an opinion that's the equivalent of taking a functioning building, burning it down, defecating on the ashes, and then saying acting like it'd be better off this way. The criticism itself is so short-sighted about what it'd mean in application that it can't see how burning the building down is destroying it. It's asinine. There's a reason it fell out of favor years ago, only being kept alive inside little, isolated bubbles like this one. It's a criticism that is an absolute black hole of nuance. You sound dumb by making a point out of it, and the only way it can be kept alive is in a vacuum where everyone else is dumb enough to perpetuate the idea itself.

Hence, broaden your fucking horizons. The entire theme and point of that post. Just fucking think a bit instead of trying to database everything as good or bad in ridiculously black and white ways. You can either get mad and desperately cling on to subjectivity as an excuse to make shitty, thoughtless, short-sighted criticisms, or you can learn to look at things from a variety of different perspectives to come to a more nuanced conclusion on the topic. You can either think "what is in the series?" or you can think "how/why is it like this?" when trying to look at what writing tools any given series is using. You've chosen the former, and you get mad about being challenged on sticking with the former. Do I think this is stupid? Yes. Hence, Caveman. That seems to have bothered you, but you sure as fuck have earned the title, acting like so.

Keep clinging to your position and never get blown off of it. Your opinions are sacrosanct because of subjectivity, and all discussion ends there.
No reason given
Edited by ghostfacekiller39
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"@tehwatever":/forums/generals/topics/general-anime-thread?post_id=5076035#post_5076035
[bq="tehwatever"]

When I the caveman make a value judgement, what I mean is that: drawing from my personal experience and personal library of references of what I have previously enjoyed or disliked, I, find said tropes or collection of tropes or implementation of tropes to be enjoyable, not enjoyable, or anywhere in between.[/bq]
Subjectivity isn't a get out of jail free card. Just because it's pretty much the universal standard doesn't mean that you can throw it out there and immediately defuse any criticisms people have of your opinions. Functioning discourse doesn't work that way, and for good reason - it's anti-intellectual and pretty much always a cheap rhetoric tactic to try to stifle what the other side is saying without actually challenging it in any way.

That aside, though - I explicitly acknowledged in the first placeost that there's preference and value judgements at play and I said I don't give a shit about it, because what I was attacking had nothing to do with your personal preferences in the sense of what you can and can't like/dislike. That's irrelevant, and you'd know as much if you actually read what you were responding to instead of making a knee-jerk reaction. I'm not a strawman for you to misrepresent in an attempt to make excuses for your stupidity.

I was being critical of how utterly and insanely short-sighted these criticisms are, and how damaging it would be if most series they're typically leveraged at began doing things the way that's being called for. And, worse yet, all of these issues stem from it because the idea itself is fundamentally myopic. Nothing more, nothing less, and trying to play the relativism card won't sidestep that. Of course I don't like or think much of what they're meant to represent whenever that's the case. I'm not gonna fuckin' like an opinion that's the equivalent of taking a functioning building, burning it down, defecating on the ashes, and then saying acting like it'd be better off this way. The criticism itself is so short-sighted about what it'd mean in application that it can't see how burning the building down is destroying it. It's asinine. There's a reason it fell out of favor years ago, only being kept alive inside little, isolated bubbles like this one.

Hence, broaden your fucking horizons. The entire theme and point of that post. Just fucking think a bit instead of trying to database everything as good or bad in ridiculously black and white ways. You can either get mad and desperately cling on to subjectivity as an excuse to make shitty, thoughtless, short-sighted criticisms, or you can learn to look at things from a variety of different perspectives to come to a more nuanced conclusion on the topic. You can either think "what is in the series?" or you can think "how/why is it like this?" when trying to look at what writing tools any given series is using. You've chosen the former, and you get mad about being challenged on sticking with the former. Do I think this is stupid? Yes. Hence, Caveman. That seems to have bothered you, but you sure as fuck have earned the title, acting like so.

Keep clinging to your position and never get blown off of it. Your opinions are sacrosanct because of subjectivity, and all discussion ends there.
No reason given
Edited by ghostfacekiller39
ghostfacekiller39
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Sunny Day Realtor
"@tehwatever":/forums/generals/topics/general-anime-thread?post_id=5076035#post_5076035
[bq="tehwatever"]

When I the caveman make a value judgement, what I mean is that: drawing from my personal experience and personal library of references of what I have previously enjoyed or disliked, I, find said tropes or collection of tropes or implementation of tropes to be enjoyable, not enjoyable, or anywhere in between.[/bq]
Subjectivity isn't a get out of jail free card. Just because it's pretty much the universal standard doesn't mean that you can throw it out there and immediately defuse any criticisms people have of your opinions. Functioning discourse doesn't work that way, and for good reason - it's anti-intellectual and pretty much always a cheap rhetoric tactic to try to stifle what the other side is saying without actually challenging it in any way.

That aside, though - I explicitly acknowledged in the first place that there's preference and value judgements at play and I said I don't give a shit about it, because what I was attacking had nothing to do with your personal preferences in the sense of what you can and can't like/dislike. That's irrelevant, and you'd know as much if you actually read what you were responding to instead of making a knee-jerk reaction. I'm not a strawman for you to misrepresent in an attempt to make excuses for your stupidity.

I was being critical of how utterly and insanely short-sighted these criticisms are, and how damaging it would be if most series they're typically leveraged at began doing things the way that's being called for. And, worse yet, all of these issues stem from it because the idea itself is fundamentally myopic. Nothing more, nothing less, and trying to play the relativism card won't sidestep that. Of course I don't like or think much of what they're meant to represent whenever that's the case. I'm not gonna fuckin' like an opinion that's the equivalent of taking a functioning building, burning it down, defecating on the ashes, and then saying acting like it'd be better off this way. The criticism itself is so short-sighted about what it'd mean in application that it can't see how burning the building down is destroying it. It's asinine. There's a reason it fell out of favor years ago, only being kept alive inside little, isolated bubbles like this one.

Hence, broaden your fucking horizons. The entire theme and point of that post. Just fucking think a bit instead of trying to database everything as good or bad in ridiculously black and white ways. You can either get mad and desperately cling on to subjectivity as an excuse to make shitty, thoughtless, short-sighted criticisms, or you can learn to look at things from a variety of different perspectives to come to a more nuanced conclusion on the topic. You can either think "what is in the series?" or you can think "how/why is it like this?" when trying to look at what writing tools any given series is using. You've chosen the former, and you get mad about being challenged on sticking with the former. Do I think this is backwardstupid? Yes. Hence, Caveman. That seems to have bothered you, but you sure as fuck have earned the title, acting like so.

Keep clinging to your position and never get blown off of it. Your opinions are sacrosanct because of subjectivity, and all discussion ends there.
No reason given
Edited by ghostfacekiller39
ghostfacekiller39
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"@tehwatever":/forums/generals/topics/general-anime-thread?post_id=5076035#post_5076035
[bq="tehwatever"]

When I the caveman make a value judgement, what I mean is that: drawing from my personal experience and personal library of references of what I have previously enjoyed or disliked, I, find said tropes or collection of tropes or implementation of tropes to be enjoyable, not enjoyable, or anywhere in between.[/bq]
Subjectivity isn't a get out of jail free card. Just because it's pretty much the universal standard doesn't mean that you can throw it out there and immediately defuse any criticisms people have of your opinions. Functioning discourse doesn't work that way, and for good reason - it's decisively anti-intellectual and pretty much always a cheap rhetoric tactic to try to stifle what the other side is saying without actually challenging it in any way.

That aside, though - I explicitly acknowledged in the first place that there's preference and value judgements at play and I said I don't give a shit about it, because what I was attacking had nothing to do with your personal preferences in the sense of what you can and can't like/dislike. That's irrelevant, and you'd know as much if you actually read what you were responding to instead of making a knee-jerk reaction. I'm not a strawman for you to misrepresent in an attempt to make excuses for your stupidity.

I was being critical of how utterly and insanely short-sighted these criticisms are, and how damaging it would be if most series they're typically leveraged at began doing things the way that's being called for. And, worse yet, all of these issues stem from it because the idea itself is fundamentally myopic. Nothing more, nothing less, and trying to play the relativism card won't sidestep that. Of course I don't like or think much of what they're meant to represent whenever that's the case. I'm not gonna fuckin' like an opinion that's the equivalent of taking a functioning building, burning it down, defecating on the ashes, and then saying acting like it'd be better off this way. The criticism itself is so short-sighted about what it'd mean in application that it can't see how burning the building down is destroying it. It's asinine. There's a reason it fell out of favor years ago, only being kept alive inside little, isolated bubbles like this one.

Hence, broaden your fucking horizons. The entire theme and point of that post. Just fucking think a bit instead of trying to database everything as good or bad in ridiculously black and white ways. You can either get mad and desperately cling on to subjectivity as an excuse to make shitty, thoughtless, short-sighted criticisms, or you can learn to look at things from a variety of different perspectives to come to a more nuanced conclusion on the topic. You've chosen the former, and you get mad about being challenged on sticking with the former. Do I think this is backwards? Yes. Hence, Caveman. That seems to have bothered you, but you sure as fuck have earned the title, acting like so.

Keep clinging to your position and never get blown off of it. Your opinions are sacrosanct because of subjectivity, and all discussion ends there.
No reason given
Edited by ghostfacekiller39
ghostfacekiller39
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"@tehwatever":/forums/generals/topics/general-anime-thread?post_id=5076035#post_5076035
[bq="tehwatever"]

When I the caveman make a value judgement, what I mean is that: drawing from my personal experience and personal library of references of what I have previously enjoyed or disliked, I, find said tropes or collection of tropes or implementation of tropes to be enjoyable, not enjoyable, or anywhere in between.[/bq]
Subjectivity isn't a get out of jail free card. Just because it's pretty much the universal standard doesn't mean that you can throw it out there and suimmeddiatenly defuse any criticisms people have of your opinions. Functioning discourse doesn't work that way, and for good reason - it's decisively anti-intellectual and pretty much always a cheap rhetoric tactic to try to stifle what the other side is saying without actually challenging it in any way.

That aside, though - I explicitly acknowledged in the first place that there's preference and value judgements at play and I said I don't give a shit about it, because what I was attacking had nothing to do with your personal preferences in the sense of what you can and can't like/dislike. That's irrelevant, and you'd know as much if you actually read what you were responding to instead of making a knee-jerk reaction. I'm not a strawman for you to misrepresent in an attempt to make excuses for your stupidity.

I was being critical of how utterly and insanely short-sighted these criticisms are, and how damaging it would be if most series they're typically leveraged at began doing things the way that's being called for. And, worse yet, all of these issues stem from it because the idea itself is fundamentally myopic. Nothing more, nothing less, and trying to play the relativism card won't sidestep that. Of course I don't like or think much of what they're meant to represent whenever that's the case. I'm not gonna fuckin' like an opinion that's the equivalent of taking a functioning building, burning it down, defecating on the ashes, and then saying acting like it'd be better off this way. The criticism itself is so short-sighted about what it'd mean in application that it can't see how burning the building down is destroying it. It's asinine. There's a reason it fell out of favor years ago, only being kept alive inside little, isolated bubbles like this one.

Hence, broaden your fucking horizons. The entire theme and point of that post. Just fucking think a bit instead of trying to database everything as good or bad in ridiculously black and white ways. You can either get mad and desperately cling on to subjectivity as an excuse to make shitty, thoughtless, short-sighted criticisms, or you can learn to look at things from a variety of different perspectives to come to a more nuanced conclusion on the topic. You've chosen the former, and you get mad about being challenged on sticking with the former. Do I think this is backwards? Yes. Hence, Caveman. That seems to have bothered you, but you sure as fuck have earned the title, acting like so.

Keep clinging to your position and never get blown off of it. Your opinions are sacrosanct because of subjectivity, and all discussion ends there.
No reason given
Edited by ghostfacekiller39
ghostfacekiller39
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"@tehwatever":/forums/generals/topics/general-anime-thread?post_id=5076035#post_5076035
[bq="tehwatever"]

When I the caveman make a value judgement, what I mean is that: drawing from my personal experience and personal library of references of what I have previously enjoyed or disliked, I, find said tropes or collection of tropes or implementation of tropes to be enjoyable, not enjoyable, or anywhere in between.[/bq]
Subjectivity isn't a get out of jail free card. Just because it's pretty much the universal standard doesn't mean that you can throw it out there and suddenly defuse any criticisms people have of your opinions. Functioning discourse doesn't work that way, and for good reason - it's decisively anti-intellectual and pretty much always a cheap rhetoric tactic to try to stifle what the other side is saying without actually challenging it in any way.

That aside, though - I explicitly acknowledged in the first place that there's preference and value judgements at play and I said I don't give a shit about it, because what I was attacking had nothing to do with your personal preferences in the sense of what you can and can't like/dislike. That's irrelevant, and you'd know as much if you actually read what you were responding to instead of making a knee-jerk reaction. I'm not a strawman for you to misrepresent in an attempt to make excuses for your stupidity.

I was specifically being critical of how utterly and insanely short-sighted these criticisms would bare, and how damaging it would be if most series they're typically leveraged at began doing things the way that's being called for. And, worse yet, all of these issues stem from it because the idea itself is fundamentally myopic. Nothing more, nothing less, and trying to play the relativism card won't sidestep that. Of course I don't like or think much of what they're meant to represent whenever that's the case. I'm not gonna fuckin' like an opinion that's the equivalent of taking a functioning building, burning it down, defecating on the ashes, and then saying acting like it'd be better off this way. The criticism itself is so short-sighted about what it'd mean in application that it can't see how burning the building down is destroying it. It's asinine. There's a reason it fell out of favor years ago, only being kept alive inside little, isolated bubbles like this one.

Hence, broaden your fucking horizons. The entire theme and point of that post. Just fucking think a bit instead of trying to database everything as good or bad in ridiculously black and white ways. You can either get mad and desperately cling on to subjectivity as an excuse to make shitty, thoughtless, short-sighted criticisms, or you can learn to look at things from a variety of different perspectives to come to a more nuanced conclusion on the topic. You've chosen the former, and you get mad about being challenged on sticking with the former. Do I think this is backwards? Yes. Hence, Caveman. That seems to have bothered you, but you sure as fuck have earned the title, acting like so.

Keep clinging to your position and never get blown off of it. Your opinions are sacrosanct because of subjectivity, and all discussion ends there.
No reason given
Edited by ghostfacekiller39
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"@tehwatever":/forums/generals/topics/general-anime-thread?post_id=5076035#post_5076035
[bq="tehwatever"]

When I the caveman make a value judgement, what I mean is that: drawing from my personal experience and personal library of references of what I have previously enjoyed or disliked, I, find said tropes or collection of tropes or implementation of tropes to be enjoyable, not enjoyable, or anywhere in between.[/bq]
Subjectivity isn't a get out of jail free card. Just because it's pretty much the universal standard doesn't mean that you can throw it out there and suddenly defuse any criticisms people have of your opinions. Functioning discourse doesn't work that way, and for good reason - it's decisively anti-intellectual and pretty much always a cheap rhetoric tactic to try to stifle what the other side is saying without actually challenging it in any way.

That aside, though - I explicitly acknowledged in the first place that there's preference and value judgements at play and I said I don't give a shit about it, because what I was attacking had nothing to do with your personal preferences in the sense of what you can and can't like/dislike. That's irrelevant, and you'd know as much if you actually read what you were responding to instead of making a knee-jerk reaction. I'm not a strawman for you to misrepresent in an attempt to make excuses for your stupidity.

I was specifically being critical of how utterly and insanely short-sighted these criticisms would be, and how damaging it would be if most series they're typically leveraged at began doing things the way that's being called for. And, worse yet, all of these issues stem from it because the idea itself is fundamentally myopic. Nothing more, nothing less, and trying to play the relativism card won't sidestep that. Of course I don't like or think much of what they're meant to represent whenever that's the case. I'm not gonna fuckin' like an opinion that's the equivalent of taking a functioning building, burning it down, defecating on the ashes, and then saying acting like it'd be better off this way. The criticism itself is so short-sighted about what it'd mean in application that it can't see how burning the building down is destroying it. It's asinine. There's a reason it fell out of favor years ago, only being kept alive inside little, isolated bubbles like this one.

Hence, broaden your fucking horizons. The entire theme and point of that post. Just fucking think a bit instead of trying to database everything as good or bad in ridiculously black and white ways. You can either get mad and desperately cling on to subjectivity as an excuse to make shitty, thoughtless, short-sighted criticisms, or you can learn to look at things from a variety of different perspectives to come to a more nuanced conclusion on the topic. You've chosen the former, and you get mad about being challenged on sticking with the former. Do I think this is backwards? Yes. Hence, Caveman. That seems to have bothered you, but you sure as fuck have earned the title, acting like so.

Keep clinging to your position and never get blown off of it. Your opinions are sacrosanct because of subjectivity, and all discussion ends there.
No reason given
Edited by ghostfacekiller39
ghostfacekiller39
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"@tehwatever":/forums/generals/topics/general-anime-thread?post_id=5076035#post_5076035
[bq="tehwatever"]

When I the caveman make a value judgement, what I mean is that: drawing from my personal experience and personal library of references of what I have previously enjoyed or disliked, I, find said tropes or collection of tropes or implementation of tropes to be enjoyable, not enjoyable, or anywhere in between.[/bq]
Subjectivity isn't a get out of jail free card. Just because it's pretty much the universal standard doesn't mean that you can throw it out there and suddenly defuse any criticisms people have of your opinions. Functioning discourse doesn't work that way, and for good reason - it's decisively anti-intellectual and pretty much always a cheap rhetoric tactic to try to stifle what the other side is saying without actually challenging it in any way.

That aside, though - I explicitly acknowledged in the first place that there's preference and value judgements at play and I said I don't give a shit about it, because what I was attacking had nothing to do with your personal preferences. If you're trying to challenge mse on thse basisof twhat I'm saying it's wrongu to prefer cultivation and carran't livke/dis over narratlivke. tThat 'skip/skim oveir power cueltievationt, and you'red fightikng owind as much if you actualls.y Rread what you' were responding to rather than getting assblasted and shof makitting out a respoknse, or els-jerk you'll end up readically off-fucking-target like thison. I'm not a strawman for you to misrepresent in an attempt to make excuses your stupidity.

I was specifically being critical of how utterly and insanely short-sighted these criticisms would be, and how damaging it would be if most series they're typically leveraged at began doing things the way that's being called for. And, worse yet, all of these issues stem from it because the idea itself is fundamentally myopic. Nothing more, nothing less, and trying to play the relativism card won't sidestep that. Of course I don't like or think much of what they're meant to represent whenever that's the case. I'm not gonna fuckin' like an opinion that's the equivalent of taking a functioning building, burning it down, defecating on the ashes, and then saying acting like it'd be better off this way. The criticism itself is so short-sighted about what it'd mean in application that it can't see how burning the building down is destroying it. It's asinine. There's a reason it fell out of favor years ago, only being kept alive inside little, isolated bubbles like this one.

Hence, broaden your fucking horizons. The entire theme and point of that post. Just fucking think a bit instead of trying to database everything as good or bad in ridiculously black and white ways. You can either get mad and desperately cling on to subjectivity as an excuse to make shitty, thoughtless, short-sighted criticisms, or you can learn to look at things from a variety of different perspectives to come to a more nuanced conclusion on the topic. You've chosen the former, and you get mad about being challenged on sticking with the former. Do I think this is backwards? Yes. Hence, Caveman. That seems to have bothered you, but you sure as fuck have earned the title, acting like so.

Keep clinging to your position and never get blown off of it. Your opinions are sacrosanct because of subjectivity, and all discussion ends there.
No reason given
Edited by ghostfacekiller39
ghostfacekiller39
Duck - Bona fide shitposter - ignore or report

Sunny Day Realtor
"@tehwatever":/forums/generals/topics/general-anime-thread?post_id=5076035#post_5076035
[bq="tehwatever"]

When I the caveman make a value judgement, what I mean is that: drawing from my personal experience and personal library of references of what I have previously enjoyed or disliked, I, find said tropes or collection of tropes or implementation of tropes to be enjoyable, not enjoyable, or anywhere in between.[/bq]
Subjectivity isn't a get out of jail free card. Just because it's pretty much the universal standard doesn't mean that you can throw it out there and suddenly defuse any criticisms people have of your opinions. Functioning discourse doesn't work that way, and for good reason - it's decisively anti-intellectual and pretty much always a cheap rhetoric tactic to try to stifle what the other side is saying without actually challenging it in any way.

That aside, though - I explicitly acknowledged in the first place that there's preference and value judgements at play and I said I don't give a shit about it, because what I was attacking had nothing to do with your personal preferences. If you're trying to challenge me on the basis that I'm saying it's wrong to prefer cultivation narratives over narrative that skip/skim over power cultivation, you're fighting windmills. Read what you're responding to rather than getting assblasted and shitting out a response, or else you'll end up radically off-fucking-target like this. I'm not a strawman for you to misrepresent in an attempt to make excuses your stupidity.

I was specifically being critical of how utterly and insanely short-sighted these criticisms would be, and how damaging it would be if most series they're typically leveraged at began doing things the way that's being called for. And, worse yet, all of these issues stem from it because the idea itself is fundamentally myopic. Nothing more, nothing less, and trying to play the relativism card won't sidestep that. Of course I don't like or think much of what they're meant to represent whenever that's the case. I'm not gonna fuckin' like an opinion that's the equivalent of taking a functioning building, burning it down, defecating on the ashes, and then saying acting like it'd be better off this way. The criticism itself is so short-sighted about what it'd mean in application that it can't see how burning the building down is destroying it. It's asinine. There's a reason it fell out of favor years ago, only being kept alive inside little, isolated bubbles like this one.

Hence, broaden your fucking horizons. The entire theme and point of that post. Just fucking think a bit instead of trying to database everything as good or bad in ridiculously black and white ways. You can either get mad and desperately cling on to subjectivity as an excuse to make shitty, thoughtless, short-sighted criticisms, or you can learn to look at things from a variety of different perspectives to come to a more nuanced conclusion on the topic. You've chosen the former, and you get mad about being challenged on sticking with the former. Do I think this is backwards? Yes. Hence, Caveman. That seems to have bothered you, but you sure as fuck have earned the title, acting like so.

Keep clinging to your position and never get blown off of it. Your opinions are sacrosanct because of subjectivity, and all discussion ends there.
No reason given
Edited by ghostfacekiller39
ghostfacekiller39
Duck - Bona fide shitposter - ignore or report

Sunny Day Realtor
"@tehwatever":/forums/generals/topics/general-anime-thread?post_id=5076035#post_5076035
[bq="tehwatever"]

When I the caveman make a value judgement, what I mean is that: drawing from my personal experience and personal library of references of what I have previously enjoyed or disliked, I, find said tropes or collection of tropes or implementation of tropes to be enjoyable, not enjoyable, or anywhere in between.[/bq]
Subjectivity isn't a get out of jail free card. Just because it's pretty much the universal standard doesn't mean that you can throw it out there and suddenly defuse any criticisms people have of your opinions. Functioning discourse doesn't work that way, and for good reason - it's decisively anti-intellectual and pretty much always a cheap rhetoric tactic to try to stifle what the other side is saying without actually challenging it in any way.

That aside, though - I explicitly acknowledged that there's preference and value judgements at play and I said I don't give a shit about it, because what I was attacking had nothing to do with your personal preference. If you're trying to challenge me on the basis that I'm saying it's wrong to prefer cultivation narratives over narrative that skip/skim over power cultivation, you're fighting windmills. Read what you're responding to rather than getting assblasted and shitting out a response, or else you'll end up radically off-fucking-target like this. I'm not a strawman for you to misrepresent in an attempt to make excuses your stupidity.

I was specifically being critical of how utterly and insanely short-sighted these criticisms would be, and how damaging it would be if most series they're typically leveraged at began doing things the way that's being called for. And, worse yet, all of these issues stem from it because the idea itself is fundamentally myopic. Nothing more, nothing less, and trying to play the relativism card won't sidestep that. Of course I don't like or think much of what they're meant to represent whenever that's the case. I'm not gonna fuckin' like an opinion that's the equivalent of taking a functioning building, burning it down, defecating on the ashes, and then saying acting like it'd be better off this way. The criticism itself is so short-sighted about what it'd mean in application that it can't see how burning the building down is destroying it. It's asinine. There's a reason it fell out of favor years ago, only being kept alive inside little, isolated bubbles like this one.

Hence, broaden your fucking horizons. The entire theme and point of that post. Just fucking think a bit instead of trying to database everything as good or bad in ridiculously black and white ways. You can either get mad and desperately cling on to subjectivity as an excuse to make shitty, thoughtless, short-sighted criticisms, or you can learn to look at things from a variety of different perspectives to come to a more nuanced conclusion on the topic. You've chosen the former, and you get mad about being challenged on sticking with the former. Do I think this is backwards? Yes. Hence, Caveman. That seems to have bothered you, but you sure as fuck have earned the title, acting like so.

Keep clinging to your position and never get blown off of it. Your opinions are sacrosanct because of subjectivity, and all discussion ends there.
No reason given
Edited by ghostfacekiller39
ghostfacekiller39
Duck - Bona fide shitposter - ignore or report

Sunny Day Realtor
"@tehwatever":/forums/generals/topics/general-anime-thread?post_id=5076035#post_5076035
[bq="tehwatever"]

When I the caveman make a value judgement, what I mean is that: drawing from my personal experience and personal library of references of what I have previously enjoyed or disliked, I, find said tropes or collection of tropes or implementation of tropes to be enjoyable, not enjoyable, or anywhere in between.[/bq]
Subjectivity isn't a get out of jail free card. Just because it's pretty much the universal standard doesn't mean that you can throw it out there and suddenly defuse any criticisms people have of your opinions. Functioning discourse doesn't work that way, and for good reason - it's decisively anti-intellectual and pretty much always a cheap rhetoric tactic to try to stifle what the other side is saying without actually challenging it in any way.

That aside, though - I explicitly acknowledged that there's preference and value judgements at play and I said I don't give a shit about it, because what I was attacking had nothing to do with your personal preference. If you're trying to challenge me on the basis that I'm saying it's wrong to prefer cultivation narratives over narrative that skip/skim over power cultivation, you're fighting windmills. Read what you're responding to rather than getting assblasted and shitting out a response, or else you'll end up radically off-fucking-target like this. I'm not a strawman for you to misrepresent to excuse your stupidity.

I was specifically being critical of how utterly and insanely short-sighted these criticisms would be, and how damaging it would be if most series they're typically leveraged at began doing things the way that's being called for. And, worse yet, all of these issues stem from it because the idea itself is fundamentally myopic. Nothing more, nothing less, and trying to play the relativism card won't sidestep that. Of course I don't like or think much of what they're meant to represent whenever that's the case. I'm not gonna fuckin' like an opinion that's the equivalent of taking a functioning building, burning it down, defecating on the ashes, and then saying acting like it'd be better off this way. The criticism itself is so short-sighted about what it'd mean in application that it can't see how burning the building down is destroying it. It's asinine,. and tThere's a reason it's pretty much faellen out of favor years ago, only being kept alive inside little, isolated bubbles like this one.

Hence, broaden your fucking horizons. The entire theme and point of that post. Just fucking think a bit instead of trying to database everything as good or bad in ridiculously black and white ways. You can either get mad and desperately cling on to subjectivity as an excuse to make shitty, thoughtless, short-sighted criticisms, or you can learn to look at things from a variety of different perspectives to come to a more nuanced conclusion on the topic. You've chosen the former, and you get mad about being challenged on sticking with the former. Do I think this is backwards? Yes. Hence, Caveman. That seems to have bothered you, but you sure as fuck have earned the title, acting like so.

Keep clinging to your position and never get blown off of it. Your opinions are sacrosanct because of subjectivity, and all discussion ends there.
No reason given
Edited by ghostfacekiller39
ghostfacekiller39
Duck - Bona fide shitposter - ignore or report

Sunny Day Realtor
"@tehwatever":/forums/generals/topics/general-anime-thread?post_id=5076035#post_5076035
[bq="tehwatever"]

When I the caveman make a value judgement, what I mean is that: drawing from my personal experience and personal library of references of what I have previously enjoyed or disliked, I, find said tropes or collection of tropes or implementation of tropes to be enjoyable, not enjoyable, or anywhere in between.[/bq]
Subjectivity isn't a get out of jail free card. Just because it's pretty much the universal standard doesn't mean that you can throw it out there and suddenly defuse any criticisms people have of your opinions. Functioning discourse doesn't work that way, and for good reason - it's decisively anti-intellectual and pretty much always a cheap rhetoric tactic to try to stifle what the other side is saying without actually challenging it in any way.

That aside, though - I explicitly acknowledged that there's preference and value judgements at play and I said I don't give a shit about it, because what I was attacking had nothing to do with your personal preference. If you're trying to challenge me on the basis that I'm saying it's wrong to prefer cultivation narratives over narrative that skip/skim over power cultivation, you're fighting windmills. Read what you're responding to rather than getting assblasted and shitting out a response, or else you'll end up radically off-fucking-target like this. I'm not a strawman for you to misrepresent to excuse your stupidity.

I was specifically being critical of how utterly and insanely short-sighted these criticisms would be, and how damaging it would be if most series they're typically leveraged at began doing things the way that's being called for. And, worse yet, all of these issues stem from it because the idea itself is fundamentally myopic. Nothing more, nothing less, and trying to play the relativism card won't sidestep that. Of course I don't like or think much of what they're meant to represent whenever that's the case. I'm not gonna fuckin' like an opinion that's the equivalent of taking a functioning building, burning it down, defecating on the ashes, and then saying acting like it'sd be better off this way. The criticism itself is so short-sighted about what it'd mean in application that it can't see how burning the building down is destroying it. It's asinine, and there's a reason it's pretty much fallen out of favor years ago, only being kept alive inside little, isolated bubbles like this one.

Hence, broaden your fucking horizons. The entire theme and point of that post. Just fucking think a bit instead of trying to database everything as good or bad in ridiculously black and white ways. You can either get mad and desperately cling on to subjectivity as an excuse to make shitty, thoughtless, short-sighted criticisms, or you can learn to look at things from a variety of different perspectives to come to a more nuanced conclusion on the topic. You've chosen the former, and you get mad about being challenged on sticking with the former. Do I think this is backwards? Yes. Hence, Caveman. That seems to have bothered you, but you sure as fuck have earned the title, acting like so.

Keep clinging to your position and never get blown off of it. Your opinions are sacrosanct because of subjectivity, and all discussion ends there.
No reason given
Edited by ghostfacekiller39
ghostfacekiller39
Duck - Bona fide shitposter - ignore or report

Sunny Day Realtor
"@tehwatever":/forums/generals/topics/general-anime-thread?post_id=5076035#post_5076035
[bq="tehwatever"]

When I the caveman make a value judgement, what I mean is that: drawing from my personal experience and personal library of references of what I have previously enjoyed or disliked, I, find said tropes or collection of tropes or implementation of tropes to be enjoyable, not enjoyable, or anywhere in between.[/bq]
Subjectivity isn't a get out of jail free card. Just because it's pretty much the universal standard doesn't mean that you can throw it out there and suddenly defuse any criticisms people have of your opinions. Functioning discourse doesn't work that way, and for good reason - it's decisively anti-intellectual and pretty much always a cheap rhetoric tactic to try to stifle what the other side is saying without actually challenging it in any way.

That aside, though - I explicitly acknowledged that there's preference and value judgements at play and I said I don't give a shit about it, because what I was attacking had nothing to do with your personal preference. If you're trying to challenge me on the basis that I'm saying it's wrong to prefer cultivation narratives over narrative that skip/skim over power cultivation, you're fighting windmills. Read what you're responding to rather than getting assblasted and shitting out a response, or else you'll end up radically off-fucking-target like this. I'm not a strawman for you to misrepresent to excuse your stupidity.

I was specifically being critical of how utterly and insanely short-sighted these criticisms would be, and how damaging it would be if most series they're typically leveraged at began doing things the way that's being called for. And, worse yet, all of these issues stem from it because the idea itself is fundamentally myopic. Nothing more, nothing less, and trying to play the relativism card won't sidestep that. Of course I don't like or think much of what they're meant to represent whenever that's the case. I'm not gonna fuckin' like an opinion that's the equivalent of taking a functioning building, burning it down, defecating on the ashes, and then saying acting like it's better off this way. The criticism itself is so short-sighted about what it'd mean in application that it can't see how burning the building down is destroying it.

Hence, broaden your fucking horizons. The entire theme and point of that post. Just fucking think a bit instead of trying to database everything as good or bad in ridiculously black and white ways. You can either get mad and desperately cling on to subjectivity as an excuse to make shitty, thoughtless, short-sighted criticisms, or you can learn to look at things from a variety of different perspectives to come to a more nuanced conclusion on the topic. You've chosen the former, and you get mad about being challenged on sticking with the former. Do I think this is backwards? Yes. Hence, Caveman. That seems to have bothered you, but you sure as fuck have earned the title, acting like so.

Keep clinging to your position and never get blown off of it. Your opinions are sacrosanct because of subjectivity, and all discussion ends there.
No reason given
Edited by ghostfacekiller39
ghostfacekiller39
Duck - Bona fide shitposter - ignore or report

Sunny Day Realtor
"@tehwatever":/forums/generals/topics/general-anime-thread?post_id=5076035#post_5076035
[bq="tehwatever"]

When I the caveman make a value judgement, what I mean is that: drawing from my personal experience and personal library of references of what I have previously enjoyed or disliked, I, find said tropes or collection of tropes or implementation of tropes to be enjoyable, not enjoyable, or anywhere in between.[/bq]
Subjectivity isn't a get out of jail free card. Just because it's pretty much the universal standard doesn't mean that you can throw it out there and suddenly defuse any criticisms people have of your opinions. Functioning discourse doesn't work that way, and for good reason - it's decisively anti-intellectual and pretty much always a cheap rhetoric tactic to try to stifle what the other side is saying without actually challenging it in any way.

That aside, though - I explicitly acknowledged that there's preference and value judgements at play and I said I don't give a shit about it, because what I was attacking had nothing to do with your personal preference. If you're trying to challenge me on the basis that I'm saying it's wrong to prefer cultivation narratives over narrative that skip/skim over power cultivation, you're fighting windmills. Read what you're responding to rather than getting assblasted and shitting out a response, or else you'll end up radically off-fucking-target like this.

I was specifically being critical of how utterly and insanely short-sighted these criticisms would be, and how damaging it would be if most series they're typically leveraged at began doing things the way that's being called for. And, worse yet, all of these issues stem from it because the idea itself is fundamentally myopic. Nothing more, nothing less, and trying to play the relativism card won't sidestep that. Of course I don't like or think much of what they're meant to represent whenever that's the case. I'm not gonna fuckin' like an opinion that's the equivalent of taking a functioning building, burning it down, defecating on the ashes, and then saying acting like it's better off this way. The criticism itself is so short-sighted about what it'd mean in application that it can't see how burning the building down is destroying it.

Hence, broaden your fucking horizons. The entire theme and point of that post. Just fucking think a bit instead of trying to database everything as good or bad in ridiculously black and white ways. You can either get mad and desperately cling on to subjectivity as an excuse to make shitty, thoughtless, short-sighted criticisms, or you can learn to look at things from a variety of different perspectives to come to a more nuanced conclusion on the topic. You've chosen the former, and you get mad about being challenged on sticking with the former. Do I think this is backwards? Yes. Hence, Caveman. That seems to have bothered you, but you sure as fuck have earned the title, acting like so.

Keep clinging to your position and never get blown off of it. Your opinions are sacrosanct because of subjectivity, and all discussion ends there.
No reason given
Edited by ghostfacekiller39
ghostfacekiller39
Duck - Bona fide shitposter - ignore or report

Sunny Day Realtor
"@tehwatever":/forums/generals/topics/general-anime-thread?post_id=5076035#post_5076035
[bq="tehwatever"]

When I the caveman make a value judgement, what I mean is that: drawing from my personal experience and personal library of references of what I have previously enjoyed or disliked, I, find said tropes or collection of tropes or implementation of tropes to be enjoyable, not enjoyable, or anywhere in between.[/bq]
Subjectivity isn't a get out of jail free card. Just because it's pretty much the universal standard doesn't mean that you can throw it out there and suddenly defuse any criticisms people have of your opinions. Functioning discourse doesn't work that way, and for good reason - it's decisively anti-intellectual and pretty much always a cheap rhetoric tactic to try to stifle what the other side is saying without actually challenging it in any way.

That aside, though - I explicitly acknowledged that there's preference and value judgements at play and I said I don't give a shit about it, because what I was attacking had nothing to do with your personal preference. If you're trying to challenge me on the basis that I'm saying it's wrong to prefer cultivation narratives over narrative that skip/skim over power cultivation, you're fighting windmills.

I was specifically being critical of how utterly and insanely short-sighted these criticisms would be, and how damaging it would be if most series they're typically leveraged at began doing things the way that's being called for. And, worse yet, all of these issues stem from it because the idea itself is fundamentally myopic. Nothing more, nothing less, and trying to play the relativism card won't sidestep that. Of course I don't like or think much of what they're meant to represent whenever that's the case. I'm not gonna fuckin' like an opinion that's the equivalent of taking a functioning building, burning it down, defecating on the ashes, and then saying acting like it's better off this way. The criticism itself is so short-sighted about what it'd mean in application that it can't see how burning the building down is destroying it.

Hence, broaden your fucking horizons. The entire theme and point of that post. Just fucking think a bit instead of trying to database everything as good or bad in ridiculously black and white ways. You can either get mad and desperately cling on to subjectivity as an excuse to make shitty, thoughtless, short-sighted criticisms, or you can learn to look at things from a variety of different perspectives to come to a more nuanced conclusion on the topic. You've chosen the former, and you get mad about being challenged on sticking with the former. Do I think this is backwards? Yes. Hence, Caveman. That seems to have bothered you, but you sure as fucked have earned the title, acting like so.

Keep clinging to your position and never get blown off of it. Your opinions are sacrosanct because of subjectivity, and all discussion ends there.
No reason given
Edited by ghostfacekiller39
ghostfacekiller39
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"@tehwatever":/forums/generals/topics/general-anime-thread?post_id=5076035#post_5076035
[bq="tehwatever"]

When I the caveman make a value judgement, what I mean is that: drawing from my personal experience and personal library of references of what I have previously enjoyed or disliked, I, find said tropes or collection of tropes or implementation of tropes to be enjoyable, not enjoyable, or anywhere in between.[/bq]
Subjectivity isn't a get out of jail free card. Just because it's pretty much the universal standard doesn't mean that you can throw it out there and suddenly defuse any criticisms people have of your opinions. Functioning discourse doesn't work that way, and for good reason - it's decisively anti-intellectual and pretty much always a cheap rhetoric tactic to try to stifle what the other side is saying without actually challenging it in any way.

That aside, though - I explicitly acknowledged that there's preference and value judgements at play and I said I don't give a shit about it, because what I was attacking had nothing to do with your personal preference. If you're trying to challenge me on the basis that I'm saying it's wrong to prefer cultivation narratives over narrative that skip/skim over power cultivation, you're fighting windmills.

I was specifically being critical of how utterly and insanely short-sighted these criticisms would be, and how damaging it would be if most series they're typically leveraged at began doing things the way that's being called for. And, worse yet, all of these issues stem from it because the idea itself is fundamentally myopic. Nothing more, nothing less, and trying to play the relativism card won't sidestep that. Of course I don't like or think much of what they're meant to represent whenever that's the case. I'm not gonna fuckin' like an opinion that's the equivalent of taking a functioning building, burning it down, and then defecating on it.he Aashes, and your opithenion isayin'tg enactitng liked ito's be likttedr orff respected, espechis wally. wThenever criticism itseemlf is tso shoperat-sighte under about wheat it'd mean in applusication that it can'dt bsee *how burning thelpf building down is destroying it.*

Hence, broaden your fucking horizons. The entire theme and point of that post. Just fucking think a bit instead of trying to database everything as good or bad in ridiculously black and white ways. You can either get mad and desperately cling on to subjectivity as an excuse to make shitty, thoughtless, short-sighted criticisms, or you can learn to look at things from a variety of different perspectives to come to a more nuanced conclusion on the topic. You've chosen the former, and you get mad about being challenged on sticking with the former. Do I think this is backwards? Yes. Hence, Caveman. That seems to have bothered you, but you sure as fucked have earned the title, acting like so.

Keep clinging to your position and never get blown off of it. Your opinions are sacrosanct because of subjectivity, and all discussion ends there.
No reason given
Edited by ghostfacekiller39
ghostfacekiller39
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"@tehwatever":/forums/generals/topics/general-anime-thread?post_id=5076035#post_5076035
[bq="tehwatever"]

When I the caveman make a value judgement, what I mean is that: drawing from my personal experience and personal library of references of what I have previously enjoyed or disliked, I, find said tropes or collection of tropes or implementation of tropes to be enjoyable, not enjoyable, or anywhere in between.[/bq]
Subjectivity isn't a get out of jail free card. Just because it's pretty much the universal standard doesn't mean that you can throw it out there and suddenly defuse any criticisms people have of your opinions. Functioning discourse doesn't work that way, and for good reason - it's decisively anti-intellectual and pretty much always a cheap rhetoric tactic to try to stifle what the other side is saying without actually challenging it in any way.

That aside, though - I explicitly acknowledged that there's preference and value judgements at play and I said I don't give a shit about it, because what I was attacking had nothing to do with your personal preference. If you're trying to challenge me on the basis that I'm saying it's wrong to prefer cultivation narratives over narrative that skip/skim over power cultivation, you're fighting windmills.

I was specifically being critical of how utterly and insanely short-sighted these criticisms would be, and how damaging it would very likely be if most series they're typically leveraged at began doing things the way that's being called for. And, worse yet, all of these issues stem from it because the idea itself is fundamentally myopic. Nothing more, nothing less, and trying to play the relativism card won't sidestep that. Of course I don't like or think much of what they're meant to represent whenever that's the case. I'm not gonna fuckin' like an opinion that's the equivalent of taking a functioning building, burning it down and then defecating on it. And your opinion isn't entitled to be liked or respected, especially whenever it seems to operate under the delusion that it'd be *helpful.*

Hence, broaden your fucking horizons. The entire theme and point of that post. Just fucking think a bit instead of trying to database everything as good or bad in ridiculously black and white ways. You can either get mad and desperately cling on to subjectivity as an excuse to make shitty, thoughtless, short-sighted criticisms, or you can learn to look at things from a variety of different perspectives to come to a more nuanced conclusion on the topic. You've chosen the former, and you get mad about being challenged on sticking with the former. Do I think this is backwards? Yes. Hence, Caveman. That seems to have bothered you, but you sure as fucked have earned the title, acting like so.

Keep clinging to your position and never get blown off of it. Your opinions are sacrosanct because of subjectivity, and all discussion ends there.
No reason given
Edited by ghostfacekiller39
ghostfacekiller39
Duck - Bona fide shitposter - ignore or report

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"@tehwatever":/forums/generals/topics/general-anime-thread?post_id=5076035#post_5076035
[bq="tehwatever"]

When I the caveman make a value judgement, what I mean is that: drawing from my personal experience and personal library of references of what I have previously enjoyed or disliked, I, find said tropes or collection of tropes or implementation of tropes to be enjoyable, not enjoyable, or anywhere in between.[/bq]
Subjectivity isn't a get out of jail free card. Just because it's pretty much the universal standard doesn't mean that you can throw it out there and suddenly defuse any criticisms people have of your opinions. Functioning discourse doesn't work that way, and for good reason - it's decisively anti-intellectual and pretty much always a cheap rhetoric tactic to try to stifle what the other side is saying without actually challenging it in any way.

That aside, though - I explicitly acknowledged that there's preference and value judgements at play and I said I don't give a shit about it, because what I was attacking had nothing to do with your personal preference. If you're trying to challenge me on the basis that I'm saying it's wrong to prefer cultivation narratives over narrative that skip/skim over power cultivation, you're fighting windmills.

I was spe
cifically being critical of how utterly and insanely short-sighted these criticisms would be, and how damaging it would very likely be if most series they're typically leveraged at began doing things the way that's being called for. And, worse yet, all of these issues stem from it because the idea itself is fundamentally myopic. Nothing more, nothing less, and trying to play the relativism card won't sidestep that. Of course I don't like or think much of what they're meant to represent whenever that's the case. I'm not gonna fuckin' like an opinion that's the equivalent of taking a functioning building, burning it down and then defecating on it. And your opinion isn't entitled to be liked or respected, especially whenever it seems to operate under the delusion that it'd be *helpful.*

Hence, broaden your fucking horizons. The entire theme and point of that post. You can either get mad and desperately cling on to subjectivity as an excuse to make shitty, thoughtless, short-sighted criticisms, or you can learn to look at things from a variety of different perspectives to come to a more nuanced conclusion on the topic. You've chosen the former, and you get mad about being challenged on sticking with the former. Do I think this is backwards? Yes. Hence, Caveman. That seems to have bothered you, but you sure as fucked have earned the title, acting like so.

Keep clinging to your position and never get blown off of it. Your opinions are sacrosanct because of subjectivity, and all discussion ends there.
No reason given
Edited by ghostfacekiller39
ghostfacekiller39
Duck - Bona fide shitposter - ignore or report

Sunny Day Realtor
"@tehwatever":/forums/generals/topics/general-anime-thread?post_id=5076035#post_5076035
[bq="tehwatever"]

When I the caveman make a value judgement, what I mean is that: drawing from my personal experience and personal library of references of what I have previously enjoyed or disliked, I, find said tropes or collection of tropes or implementation of tropes to be enjoyable, not enjoyable, or anywhere in between.[/bq]
Subjectivity isn't a get out of jail free card. Just because it's pretty much the universal standard doesn't mean that you can throw it out there and suddenly defuse any criticisms people have of your opinions. Functioning discourse doesn't work that way, and for good reason - it's decisively anti-intellectual and pretty much always a cheap rhetoric tactic to try to stifle what the other side is saying without actually challenging it in any way.

That aside, though - I explicitly acknowledged that there's preference and value judgements at play and I said I don't give a shit about it, because what I was attacking had nothing to do with your personal preference. I was specifically being critical of how utterly and insanely short-sighted these criticisms would be, and how damaging it would very likely be if most series they're typically leveraged at began doing things the way that's being called for. And, worse yet, all of these issues stem from it because the idea itself is fundamentally myopic. Nothing more, nothing less, and trying to play the relativism card won't sidestep that. Of course I don't like or think much of what they're meant to represent whenever that's the case. I'm not gonna fuckin' like an opinion that's the equivalent of taking a functioning building, burning it down and then defecating on it. And your opinion isn't entitled to be liked or respected, especially whenever it seems to operate under the delusion that it'd be *helpful.*

Hence, broaden your fucking horizons. The entire theme and point of that post. You can either get mad and desperately cling on to subjectivity as an excuse to make shitty, thoughtless, short-sighted criticisms, or you can learn to look at things from a variety of different perspectives to come to a more nuanced conclusion on the topic. You've chosen the former, and you get mad about being challenged on sticking with the former. Do I think this is backwards? Yes. Hence, Caveman. That seems to have bothered you, but you sure as fucked have earned the title, acting like so.

Keep clinging to your position and never get blown off of it. Your opinions are sacrosanct because of subjectivity, and all discussion ends there. This is certainly not childish at all.
No reason given
Edited by ghostfacekiller39
ghostfacekiller39
Duck - Bona fide shitposter - ignore or report

Sunny Day Realtor
"@tehwatever":/forums/generals/topics/general-anime-thread?post_id=5076035#post_5076035
[bq="tehwatever"]

When I the caveman make a value judgement, what I mean is that: drawing from my personal experience and personal library of references of what I have previously enjoyed or disliked, I, find said tropes or collection of tropes or implementation of tropes to be enjoyable, not enjoyable, or anywhere in between.[/bq]
Subjectivity isn't a get out of jail free card. Just because it's pretty much the universal standard doesn't mean that you can throw it out there and suddenly defuse any criticisms people have of your opinions. Functioning discourse doesn't work that way, and for good reason - it's decisively anti-intellectual and pretty much always a cheap rhetoric tactic to try to stifle what the other side is saying without actually challenging it in any way.

That aside, though - I explicitly acknowledged that there's preference and value judgements at play and I said I don't give a shit about it, because what I was attacking had nothing to do with your personal preference. I was specifically being critical of how utterly and insanely short-sighted these criticisms would be, and how damaging it would very likely be if mosthe series they're typically leveraged at began doing things the way that's being called for. And, worse yet, all of these thingssues arstem from it because they'r idea itself is fundamentally myopic. Nothing more, nothing less, and trying to play the relativism card won't sidestep that. Of course I don't like or think much of what they're meant to represent whenever that's the case. I'm not gonna fuckin' like an opinion that's the equivalent of taking a functioning building, burning it down and then defecating on it. And your opinion isn't entitled to be liked or respected, especially whenever it seems to operate under the delusion that it'd be *helpful.*

Hence, broaden your fucking horizons. The entire theme and point of that post. You can either get mad and desperately cling on to subjectivity as an excuse to make shitty, thoughtless, short-sighted criticisms, or you can learn to look at things from a variety of different perspectives to come to a more nuanced conclusion on the topic. You've chosen the former, and you get mad about being challenged on sticking with the former. Do I think this is backwards? Yes. Hence, Caveman.

Keep clinging to your post and never get blown off of it. Your opinions are sacrosanct because of subjectivity, and all discussion ends there. This is certainly not childish at all.
No reason given
Edited by ghostfacekiller39
ghostfacekiller39
Duck - Bona fide shitposter - ignore or report

Sunny Day Realtor
"@tehwatever":/forums/generals/topics/general-anime-thread?post_id=5076035#post_5076035
[bq="tehwatever"]

When I the caveman make a value judgement, what I mean is that: drawing from my personal experience and personal library of references of what I have previously enjoyed or disliked, I, find said tropes or collection of tropes or implementation of tropes to be enjoyable, not enjoyable, or anywhere in between.[/bq]
Subjectivity isn't a get out of jail free card. Just because it's pretty much the universal standard doesn't mean that you can throw it out there and suddenly defuse any criticisms people have of your opinions. Functioning discourse doesn't work that way, and for good reason - it's decisively anti-intellectual and pretty much always a cheap rhetoric tactic to try to stifle what the other side is saying without actually challenging it in any way.

That aside, though - I explicitly acknowledged that there's preference and value judgements at play and I said I don't give a shit about it, because what I was attacking had nothing to do with your personal preference. I was specifically being critical of how utterly and insanely short-sighted these criticisms would be, and how damaging it would very likely be if the series began doing things the way that's being called for. All of these things are because they're fundamentally myopic. Nothing more, nothing less, and trying to play the relativism card won't sidestep that. Of course I don't like or think much of what they're meant to represent whenever that's the case. I'm not gonna fuckin' like an opinion that's the equivalent of taking a functioning building, burning it down and then defecating on it. And your opinion isn't entitled to be liked or respected, especially whenever it seems to operate under the delusion that it'd be *helpful.*

Hence, broaden your fucking horizons. The entire theme and point of that post. You can either get mad and desperately cling on to subjectivity as an excuse to make shitty, thoughtless, short-sighted criticisms, or you can learn to look at things from a variety of different perspectives to come to a more nuanced conclusion on the topic. You've chosen the former, and you get mad about being challenged on sticking with the former. Do I think this is backwards? Yes. Hence, Caveman.

Keep clinging to your post and never get blown off of it. Your opinions are sacrosanct because of subjectivity, and all discussion ends there. This is certainly not childish at all.
No reason given
Edited by ghostfacekiller39
ghostfacekiller39
Duck - Bona fide shitposter - ignore or report

Sunny Day Realtor
"@tehwatever":/forums/generals/topics/general-anime-thread?post_id=5076035#post_5076035
[bq="tehwatever"]

When I the caveman make a value judgement, what I mean is that: drawing from my personal experience and personal library of references of what I have previously enjoyed or disliked, I, find said tropes or collection of tropes or implementation of tropes to be enjoyable, not enjoyable, or anywhere in between.[/bq]
Subjectivity isn't a get out of jail free card. Just because it's pretty much the universal standard doesn't mean that you can throw it out there and suddenly defuse any criticisms people have of your opinions. Functioning discourse doesn't work that way, and for good reason - it's decisively anti-intellectual and pretty much always a cheap rhetoric tactic to try to stifle what the other side is saying without actually challenging it in any way.

That aside, though - I explicitly acknowledged that there's preference and value judgements at play and I said I don't give a shit about it, because what I was attacking had nothing to do with your personal preference. I was specifically being critical of how utterly and insanely short-sighted these criticisms would be, and how damaging it would very likely be if the series began doing things the way that's being called for. All of these things are because they're fundamentally myopic. Nothing more, nothing less, and trying to play the relativism card won't sidestep that. Of course I don't like or think much of what they're meant to represent whenever that's the case. I'm not gonna fuckin' like an opinion that's the equivalent of taking a functioning building, burning it down and then defecating on it. And your opinion isn't entitled to be liked or respected, especially whenever it seems to operate under the delusion that it'd be *helpful.*

Hence, broaden your fucking horizons. The entire theme and point of that post. You can either get mad and desperately cling on to subjectivity as an excuse to make shitty, thoughtless, short-sighted criticisms, or you can learn to look at things from a variety of different perspectives to come to a more nuanced conclusion on the topic. You've chosen the former, and you get mad about being challenged on sticking with the former. Do I think this is backwards? Yes. Hence, Caveman.

Keep clinging to your post and never get blown off of it. Your opinions are sacrosanct because of subjectivity, and all discussion ends there.
No reason given
Edited by ghostfacekiller39