Don't blame me, I voted for the other guy. (Politics General)

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Do I need to remind you about the Soviet Union and Maoist China?
 
Talking to me about State Capitalist countries to talk about Socialism shows me how much you really know.  
Just because bad things are happening involving capitalism right now doesn’t mean it can’t improve. After all, Why abandon something good when it can be fixed?
 
Because the fundamental problem of Capitalism involves concentrating most of the wealth of the market and world in the hands of a few people while leaving most of the rest above the subsistence line or lower. Like what’s happening in America with the shrinking of the middle class.  
Capitalism has lifted many people out of poverty and the average American eats better than a king.
 
With 7 billion or so people in the world, it’s true that millions might have been lifted from poverty, but at the expense of impoverishing another few billion in return. It’s a classic dialectical proposition that only can be found in the full truth (edit: as in, the full truth that overall, capitalism causes poverty) when viewed alongside its negation.  
Do you understand what happens when you tax the rich too much though? They simply leave to a country that won’t tax them too much.
 
Brain drain exists regardless of economic systems. This problem is huge in Greece, as big brains (along with pretty much everybody else) cannot find utility for their skills.
 
Google ‘greece brain drain’ . Among the top articles, one is from Nature, saying how austerity is killing greek science. From Speigle “unemployment and recession in Greece leads to Brain Drain” and mentions how 120,000 professionals have emigrated the country.
 
I think the question is interesting, because Marx does suggest in the Communist Manifesto, how emigrants and rebels ought to have their assets seized. But one of the biggest investments cannot be taken away from emigrants: their knowledges and technical skills.
 
Giving the government power over our healthcare would give them too much leverage over us.
 
For your American government, maybe, but the rest of the world seems to be doing fine. Looks like a problem unique to a country whose government is brought out by money in politics and excessive lobbying.
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Dear Dan,
 
If fixing capitalism was so easy or permanent the New Deal would have remained and not decayed over time as it did.
 
Truth is in the middle is a hella fallacy. Please step taking that pill.
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You may as well say Medieval/Dark age Europe was hopeless with how barbaric it was, and yet it improved.
 
Europe only got out of the dark ages and improved because of the Black Death, which killed so many people that wealth from the dead was spread out among the survivors. Whoever was left either inherited the money from their dead landlords or their work became valuable since there was less laborers to go around. People suddenly had more spending power which brought about the Renaissance.
 
Europe didn’t just “fix itself”, it took a disaster to bring about wealth redistribution.
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Do I need to remind you about the Soviet Union and Maoist China?
 
I do know that Socialism =/= Communism.
 
 
And yet it can still improve.
 
Which is what calls for socialist reform is trying to do.
 
Either way, Giving the government power over our healthcare would give them too much leverage over us. If you were to ban Healthcare Monopolies and have many healthcare companies, if one company where to deny you it you could always find a better company with better healthcare.
 
A phenomena that demonstratedly doesn’t exist in the rest of the developed world. Everywhere else has government run healthcare and they all are superior to America’s in every measure.
 
Do you understand what happens when you tax the rich too much though? They simply leave to a country that won’t tax them too much. You know that’s called when it happens to a country? It’s called a “Brain Drain”
 
  1. We tried taxing them too little by Trickle Down Economics. All that did was create the problem we live in today.
     
  2. I doubt you’ll find too many advocates who’ll “tax them too much”. All anybody asks is that when the average Joe makes around 30,000 a year then the guy who makes 1,000,000 or more pay a slight degree more. Because when you start dealing with that many zeroes even a “slight degree” can mean the difference of an extra few hundreds to few thousand minimum.
     
  3. Good. If I may get a bit petulant for a moment, let the bourgeois pomps fuck off. They’ll rapidly find no other nation bends over backwards so feverishly for them like America does, learning what “Free Market” really means. Big Pharma in particular; they try running their racket anywhere else in the developed world and they’ll find oops, everywhere else has government run healthcare. Okay so they try the undeveloped world. Oops, third world countries can’t afford their extortionary pricing. So all the companies inevitably come crawling back to America only to find oops, in their absence the proletariat have taken over their vacant factories and universities leaving them with nothing. Win-win.
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I give Gary Johnson some slack there since it’s unfeasible to know what the capital of most rando nations off the top of your head. Sure, Syria is a fairly big topic in politics, and one would like for a presidential hopeful to have an encyclopedic knowledge of all things politics, but nowadays that feels like a gotcha question.
I mean, Venezuela is a favorite buzzword nowadays. The Trump administration (John Bolton in particular) are in a sweaty desperation to get our troops killed fighting it, but can anyone here name its capital without resorting to Google? Or Iran for that matter, another frequent topic on the news?
 
Fun fact! Trump did not know who the leader of the Quds Force was, and mistook the Quds for the Kurds! And now he wants to go to war with Iran! …ARE YOU TIRED OF WINNING YET?!?!
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So da China, calls their camp the Vocational Training Camp. like it’s gonna change the fact that that’s where they dump problematic Uyghurs in, and make em disappear or prolly brainswash them with state approved ideology and identity.
 
China might as well call it Freddy Fazzbear’s Pizzeria.
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>be me
 
>become a leftist, because fuck Nazis
 
>go on to listen to leftist discourse on sites on the internet
 
>leftist internet discourse consists of fake woke people cancelling one everybody and everyone they come across and subjecting each other to ideological purity tests
 
>said fake woke discourse also involves splitting hairs over whether it’s objectification or empowerment when a lady so much as shows a shoulder or ankle in media
 
I would neck myself, but I made a promise that I’d live to see humanity end Global Warming and the eventual fall of Fascism across the globe.
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@Violet Rose in The Rain  
Now that I think about it, I keep myself alive for very similar reasons, except by now I’m half expecting the global energy crisis and the collapse of this decadent consumerist civilization into Mad Max-like anarchy to come first.
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splitting hairs over whether it’s objectification or empowerment when a lady so much as shows a shoulder or ankle in media
have women wear hijab and form fitting outfit like this.  
 
The empowerment camp can be happy she shows ankles and her figure.  
The objectification camp can be happy she’s covering 80% of skin.
 
Win-win for errbody, or at least, me.
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In Vino Veritas
The Supreme Court has basically turned VA blue.
 
By upholding the redrawn maps they’ve basically guaranteed that the Reps will lose control of the lower House in 2020, as snakey, gerrymandered districts that once divided places like Prince George County are now more evenly distributed. This erases a Republican advantage that was held across several districts.
 
Republicans were already predicted to lose control of the upper chamber, having only maintained control because of a name being drawn from a hat. Yes, that happend, because of a tie.
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In Vino Veritas
Some polling of 55+ individuals shows that they’re starting to move away from the GoP.
 
They’re not all going Dem, they’re simply not energized to vote.
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The law firm representing the families of the 2012 mass shooting, stated in court documents filed Monday they have contacted the FBI after discovering child porn in electronic files Jones recently turned over to the Sandy Hook families as a result of their lawsuit against him for calling the tragedy a hoax
 
You’re trying to set me up with child porn, I’ll get your ass,” Jones states on the broadcast. “One million dollars, you little gang members. One million dollars to put your head on a pike.” Jones then pounds a photograph of Mattei and goes into a rant at one point stating, “I’m gonna kill…”
 
“Mr. Jones was upset, he did not threaten Mr. Mattei,” Pattis, Jones’ lawyer, said. “He spoke in a compassionate fashion.”
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