Don't blame me, I voted for the other guy. (Politics General)

silbasa
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@Latecomer
Nice one. Knee and everything.

You see there is the old adage "live and let live". A fine adage it is. The left should give that a go.

Trying to force parts of the world to be about me and my minority only leads to nowhere good. For the world and the minority in question, whatever group it refers to.
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@Latecomer
Their are also geopolitical reasons to side with Israel as well, it's not a hatred of Islam. I think we've done too much for them personally, but that whole region is an odd tangle.
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@silbasa
Some states within that group are a lot better than others. There's nothing better than them overall, I think… but a hundred or even fifty years ago, was there anything as good?
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Here's why that this assertion just simply doesn't work in this case, here: this vocal minority has managed to completely worm its way into—and rapidly proliferate in—countless major and minor institutions of almost all kinds throughout this country, meaning that it no longer matters whether or not it's a vocal minority, but that it now has the ability to effectively brainwash and gaslight possibly hundreds of thousands—if not, millions—of people into believing their lies, and/or their distortions of the objective, indisputable truth.


This is the danger that I'm greatly concerned of, and seems as if nobody else that happens to lie anywhere on the left side of the political spectrum but me has been in staunch, unwavering opposition to such absolutely unjustifiable insanity that is practically flourishing unchecked in liberal, progressive, and/or leftist-dominated institutions.


Anyone who spouts the usual "march through the institutions" cliche has never actually been to college. Most students, whether they're in preschool, high school, or university, couldn't care less what their teachers say. They'll mouth along with whatever platitudes they need to to get their degree so that they have a better chance of surviving in a highly-competitive job market. Belief only rarely has anything to do with it.

This is a kind of conservatism that appeals to anxious parents and no one else. It's for people who think that the only reason their children don't believe what they're "supposed" to is because some outside influence has brainwashed them.
silbasa
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@Latecomer
Not optimum, but as good as we can make it currently at this stage in history in regards to laws and rights. In the west you can within reason be what you want to be. Not many other places that's possible. Look at what you have before you discard it.
Latecomer

@silbasa
The thing about stages of history is that we don't move onto the next one by standing still and thinking we're perfect.

And "the west" is a broad place. Which country do you think best embodies what you speak of?
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@silbasa
Okay, that encompasses a wide range of jurisdictions with varying degrees of respect for human rights, individual liberties, and social welfare, and pretty much only one thing in common.
doloresbridge
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Peace to all
@silbasa
I agree with this, 100%.


@silbasa
Yep it is pretty good Though honestly, I am becoming increasingly sympathetic to the idea that all this libertine social attitudes was just a power vacuum and not a coherent social order in its own right which is why you see such radical social justice marching through our society.


@Background Human
pretty much only one thing in common.

One thing in common? Explain if you don't mind.


@Latecomer
we don't move onto the next one by standing still and thinking we're perfect.

That is still a good point.
Zincy
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Max freedom? If the US represents "max freedom" then the ceiling of freedoms is a low one indeed.

We are currently having a fierce battle over whether or not adults can smoke a leaf, if two consenting adults can fuck and marry if they are the same sex, if women have full autonomy over their bodies, and other supposed liberties we are currently lacking.
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America has the highest in both total number of imprisoned citizens and highest rate of imprisonment per capita.

"Land Of The Free" is as big a lie as "Land of Opportunity".
Zincy
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@Dustcan

Land of the free where militarized police can bust down the door to the wrong house and then the state can refuse to repay the damages. Also the freedom for the police to seize any money they find there in the name of civil forfeiture.
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