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Everyone would like a post scarcity universe like Star Trek. We have to work with what we have now though and capitalism has been what the most successful countries have chosen.
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And here’s the funny part, you know the “Health Dictatorship” that these Anti-Vaxx and Anti-Mask Conservatives like to complain about?
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“Use what you have to get what you want”
gee I wonder why people and countries chose that…
 
That isn’t capitalism…
 
Capitalism is an individual owning land or other means of production that other people work on/with, with the profits from what’s produced (which can include simply rent) going to the owner for them to decide how to distribute (if at all). Those that do not own land / the means with which to produce wealth are simply a lower caste and must use their bodies by renting themselves out to the rich (who more often than not simply inherited their riches, directly or indirectly).
 
 
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@Ciaran
Everyone would like a post scarcity universe like Star Trek. We have to work with what we have now though and capitalism has been what the most successful countries have chosen.
 
It’s interesting how people ignore all the capitalist countries in the world that are complete dregs. Nobody ever seems to care that Liberia or Bangladesh are paragons of capitalism… Did you know that most failed states are capitalist? That the poorest and most destitute people almost all live in capitalist countries?
 
Capitalism is the “successful system” in “successful countries” because those countries were already “successful” and it was the progression from feudalism. Plus the system fits well with base human behaviors like hoarding and not caring about, or actively abusing, strangers; a child can grasp how it works at a fundamental level.
 
And it’s the system that’s stuck because the political and social (like church) structures that have been in place for so long are filled with people that actively benefit from the system not changing. Politicians are almost all rich, and practically all of them are in the pocket of corporations that thrive, or outright depend on capitalism.
 
These “successful” countries didn’t “choose” capitalism, it was just the default they started off with and that the rich elits governing them will never move away from because it’d take away their power. And the people below them just accept it out of social inertia.
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What is most peoples capital; their own work force  
Work force is the number 1 means of production
 
You use your capital to get what you want.  
What you want is get by the monetary system.  
You sell what you have your work force to get money.  
You use what you have money (capital produced with your previous capital) to get what you want.
 
Non monetary capitalism exists  
You hate the monetary system you are part of.
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All the people in charge of these restaurants, bars, movie theaters, or other public venues are simply asking you show your vaccination card and have a mask, that’s it. It’s not that hard.
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Not entirely sure what you’re saying.
 
 
@Background Pony #01BB  
Of course the vast majority of countries are going to be capitalist, though trying to argue that countries that are capitalist are successfull because they were sucessful before that point ignores the countries, specifically in Asia, that have improved significantly once they began embracing it. You’re forgetting the strong correlation between more free economies and prosperous peoples.
 
The system works well because it recognizes that yes, people are self interested, and it’s better to work with that, encouraging both competition and cooperation. No other system right now has shown to be better, maybe in the future when we reach a point of post-scarcity we will find a new way of living.
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Note that the author the article cites most heavily is referred to as “largely ignored by mainstream reviewers.” In other words, no credible publication even considered it worth criticizing. It’s also telling that throughout the article they throw barbs at mainstream historians and historical consensus. Not popular understanding of history, which often is flawed, but the experts themselves. It’s the sort of anti-intellectualism you also see in “LOCAL MOM DISCOVERS SECRET CURE DOCTORS DON’T WANT YOU TO KNOW!” clickbait.
 
One specific example of the type of shoddy history in the article is the claim that the Japanese offered to surrender in January 1945 on the same terms the US ultimately accepted later, but neglect to mention that earlier offers would have had no occupation of Japan and left war criminals to be tried by the Japanese themselves.
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Avowed racist and Fox News writer Kurt Schlichter went on a cocaine fueled Twitter rant today where he says the right should form a brutal military junta that, amoung other things, should do the following.
 
 
Fine and arrest anyone who does not have children.  
Nationalize big business and force them to adopt conservative ideology.  
Force mandatory military service.  
Purposely pollute more, for some reason.  
And just generally try and be as much a Nazi as possible.
 
 
And no, I’m not joking. He actually said these things.
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The rant:  
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For too long red state conservatives have offered to live and let live with blue state liberals but the blues are evangelical Marxists who cannot allow us to provide a counter example of freedom. 1/
So, no more. We must, by any means necessary, force them to be like us. No quarter. No compromise. 2/
Ban CRT, Marxism and anti-American misinformation. Nationalize big tech and academia and mandate conservatism as their operational ideology. Ban leftist media and entertainment from spreading misinformation.3/
Penalize barren, non-familial lifestyles through taxes and disqualification from political participation. Establish property and military service qualifications for voting. Increase America’s carbon footprint. Ban masks. Dismantle unions.n4/
Use the law to ensure blue submission. Imprison dissenters. Force them to act against their deepest beliefs to keep their jobs. End all social programs and deport all illegals. Outlaw crime again.5/
Seems kind of harsh. But hey, isn’t this the flip side of what they want to do to us? So I’m unclear why they would object that it’s wrong. 6/
They started it. 7/
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I really wonder what will his theocracy do after it slaughters the opposition and reduces people to breeders and fanatics. Wage war on the world, or rot away like Myanmar and North Korea?
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The rant:
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For too long red state conservatives have offered to live and let live with blue state liberals but the blues are evangelical Marxists who cannot allow us to provide a counter example of freedom. 1/
So, no more. We must, by any means necessary, force them to be like us. No quarter. No compromise. 2/
Ban CRT, Marxism and anti-American misinformation. Nationalize big tech and academia and mandate conservatism as their operational ideology. Ban leftist media and entertainment from spreading misinformation.3/
Penalize barren, non-familial lifestyles through taxes and disqualification from political participation. Establish property and military service qualifications for voting. Increase America’s carbon footprint. Ban masks. Dismantle unions.n4/
Use the law to ensure blue submission. Imprison dissenters. Force them to act against their deepest beliefs to keep their jobs. End all social programs and deport all illegals. Outlaw crime again.5/
Seems kind of harsh. But hey, isn’t this the flip side of what they want to do to us? So I’m unclear why they would object that it’s wrong. 6/
They started it. 7/
 
That sounds like what a Nazi would say.
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