Don't blame me, I voted for the other guy. (Politics General)

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can you explain that further? I’m looking at it and it seem to me like a weird trial by ordeal for adultery?
And the Lord spake unto Moses, saying,
12 Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, If any man’s wife go aside, and commit a trespass against him,`
13 And a man lie with her carnally, and it be hid from the eyes of her husband, and be kept close, and she be defiled, and there be no witness against her, neither she be taken with the manner;
14 And the spirit of jealousy come upon him, and he be jealous of his wife, and she be defiled: or if the spirit of jealousy come upon him, and he be jealous of his wife, and she be not defiled:
15 Then shall the man bring his wife unto the priest, and he shall bring her offering for her, the tenth part of an ephah of barley meal; he shall pour no oil upon it, nor put frankincense thereon; for it is an offering of jealousy, an offering of memorial, bringing iniquity to remembrance.
16 And the priest shall bring her near, and set her before the Lord:
17 And the priest shall take holy water in an earthen vessel; and of the dust that is in the floor of the tabernacle the priest shall take, and put it into the water:
18 And the priest shall set the woman before the Lord, and uncover the woman’s head, and put the offering of memorial in her hands, which is the jealousy offering: and the priest shall have in his hand the bitter water that causeth the curse:
19 And the priest shall charge her by an oath, and say unto the woman, If no man have lain with thee, and if thou hast not gone aside to uncleanness with another instead of thy husband, be thou free from this bitter water that causeth the curse:
20 But if thou hast gone aside to another instead of thy husband, and if thou be defiled, and some man have lain with thee beside thine husband:
21 Then the priest shall charge the woman with an oath of cursing, and the priest shall say unto the woman, The Lord make thee a curse and an oath among thy people, when the Lord doth make thy thigh to rot, and thy belly to swell;
22 And this water that causeth the curse shall go into thy bowels, to make thy belly to swell, and thy thigh to rot: And the woman shall say, Amen, amen.
23 And the priest shall write these curses in a book, and he shall blot them out with the bitter water:
24 And he shall cause the woman to drink the bitter water that causeth the curse: and the water that causeth the curse shall enter into her, and become bitter.
25 Then the priest shall take the jealousy offering out of the woman’s hand, and shall wave the offering before the Lord, and offer it upon the altar:
26 And the priest shall take an handful of the offering, even the memorial thereof, and burn it upon the altar, and afterward shall cause the woman to drink the water.
27 And when he hath made her to drink the water, then it shall come to pass, that, if she be defiled, and have done trespass against her husband, that the water that causeth the curse shall enter into her, and become bitter, and her belly shall swell, and her thigh shall rot: and the woman shall be a curse among her people.
28 And if the woman be not defiled, but be clean; then she shall be free, and shall conceive seed.
29 This is the law of jealousies, when a wife goeth aside to another instead of her husband, and is defiled;
30 Or when the spirit of jealousy cometh upon him, and he be jealous over his wife, and shall set the woman before the Lord, and the priest shall execute upon her all this law.
31 Then shall the man be guiltless from iniquity, and this woman shall bear her iniquity.`
prejudice against women yes, but I fail to see the abortion.
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The rally against abortion is really only a recent thing, well after when editing the bible would have passed muster (ie. after the printing press). That specific passage also specifically refers to forcing an abortion on a woman suspected of being unfaithful to her owner husband, so it’s morally OK by most abrahamic standards.
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I also see a trial that’s meant to detect adultery. Where’s the abortion?
19 Then the priest shall put the woman under oath and say to her, “If no other man has had sexual relations with you and you have not gone astray and become impure while married to your husband, may this bitter water that brings a curse not harm you.
20 But if you have gone astray while married to your husband and you have made yourself impure by having sexual relations with a man other than your husband”—
21 here the priest is to put the woman under this curse—“may the LORD cause you to become a curse among your people when he makes your womb miscarry and your abdomen swell.
22 May this water that brings a curse enter your body so that your abdomen swells or your womb miscarries.” “ ‘Then the woman is to say, “Amen. So be it.”
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I mean I’m not either just doesn’t seem like a belly swelling and a rotting thigh is a miscarriage either.
19 And the priest shall charge her by an oath, and say unto the woman, If no man have lain with thee, and if thou hast not gone aside to uncleanness with another instead of thy husband, be thou free from this bitter water that causeth the curse:
20 But if thou hast gone aside to another instead of thy husband, and if thou be defiled, and some man have lain with thee beside thine husband:
21 Then the priest shall charge the woman with an oath of cursing, and the priest shall say unto the woman, The Lord make thee a curse and an oath among thy people, when the Lord doth make thy thigh to rot, and thy belly to swell;
22 And this water that causeth the curse shall go into thy bowels, to make thy belly to swell, and thy thigh to rot: And the woman shall say, Amen, amen.
also question. why should the Bible have any affect on common law? isn’t a separation of church and state a good thing?
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This translation mentions miscarriage, but others don’t seem to. For example a modern translation in my language mentions womb swelling and loins becoming flaccid/losing elasticity/going limp (the word used does not have an English equivalent; wither would be the closest, except wither is not used for describing skin). The translation Meanlucario cited, mentions similar symptoms.
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@YourPalContrail
Can you explain why your theory of the passage not referring to miscarriage is correct over that of every other theologian on the planet including devout Christians?
These “run the clock, tire them out, distract them with minutia” tactics are lame.
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Religion is intentionally written in vague essoterric language so people can pretend it applies to everything after the fact.
Islam likes to pretend it predicts modern science this way. Though at least islam is interested in validating modern science, Christians still think the world is on a disk being carried by a turtle, and there is a giant bubble dome, and the stars are air holes in the dome, lmao.
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I couldn’t care less about what that school administration did and I don’t appreciate your attempt at whataboutism.
What does it matter in the grand political scheme of things? Absolutely nothing except a small incident that’s used to rile up reactionaries and will be forgotten about in a month or so.
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I mean regardless of how small the incident is I can still say it’s wrong, after all an injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. als this isn’t a whatabouism it was specifically what the article was about so I’m confused.
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