Don't blame me, I voted for the other guy. (Politics General)

Background Pony #AE79

that Trump planned and encouraged the incident at the Senate, it doesn’t mean fascism.

lmao at the minimization. You’re in for a rude awakening,sleepwalking to the death of your democracy as you keep telling yourself “It Cant Happen Here”
Trump words are at fault, it’s a textbook case of stochastic terrorism

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tehwatever

@Latecomer

@Zincy
Yes - and/or perhaps consider whether the power to shoot things is one any random member of the public should be entrusted with.

The same argument can be said about driving a motor vehicle, tbh. And like vehicles, you cant have randos jus driving it.

Vehicles are lethal, mang.

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Background Pony #96B8

@Background Pony #AE79
This is a good problem with the country right here. Pick apart every little detail in order to complain. “Oh, you didn’t use the right word, you must be minimizing it and are a bad person”. This kind of thinking is cancer.

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phoenixacezero

@tehwatever
Same for knife. Can lethal but can be used cut other stuff beside another person.

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Zincy

In Vino Veritas

@tehwatever

Hence why people have to be of age, get licenses and pass tests to drive.

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phoenixacezero

Electricity can also be lethal, but it became part of our lives and made thing easier. Some surgery would probably ended badly.

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AaronMk

Sky funeral

@Zincy

A deranged gun owner in Texas tried to shoot and kill her neighbors dog when it got loose, ends up shooting her 5 year old son instead and almost shooting another.

Both the child and the dog thankfully survived the encounter, and the dumb broad is facing criminal charges. They should take her kids away and throw her ass in the clink for a few years.

this is what suburbanization does to a motherfucker

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Latecomer

@Background Pony #96B8
The Trump era and 90s America weren’t that close, I don’t think. (For one thing, increased representation on TV didn’t produce nearly as much whining - or was it just that without the Internet being so big, no-one could hear it?)

@Background Pony #1F81
It’s a real sexuality, and they’re mostly assholes and quite possibly lying.

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@tehwatever
And if our modern society could function without motor vehicles, I’d support a ban, or at least severe speed limits.

@phoenixacezero
Likewise, if a knifeless kitchen was workable. I think they were making some knives without points, so you can’t stab with them, a while back?

@phoenixacezero
Yes. It’s an essential part of society, such that no first world country can manage without it. Same with cars, same with knives.

So how about you stop comparing them with something as unnecessary and extraneous as guns?

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Zamasu

@AaronMk
The baby boom of the 50s is largely to blame for the suburbs. Damn white people and their apparent need to get away from the inner cities, amirite? /quasi-facetious

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tehwatever

@Zincy
Yeah. Das my point xactly.
So I dont have much issue with ppl owning firearms provided they pass the strict requirement to do so.

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phoenixacezero

@Latecomer
protection,hunting, to use to prevent power hungry dictators. people who are asian bought more guns because out of fear of being attack by racist.

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tehwatever

@Latecomer
Ban motor vehicles?! You gonna need one hell of an excellent 10/10 public transport system to even consider a ban on private vehicles.

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AaronMk

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@Goku Black

@AaronMk
The baby boom of the 50s is largely to blame for the suburbs. Damn white people and their apparent need to get away from the inner cities, amirite? /quasi-facetious

The Baby Boom itself wasn’t a factor in suburbanization at all. There’s no reason an increase in population over a generation couldn’t be absorbed by the cities. Prior to WW2 most Americans lived in multi-generational house-holds, let alone apartments. And it wouldn’t have been difficult to throw up more housing projects to accommodate. Hell, old-school row house neighborhoods are actually far more effective at serving more people than suburban neighborhoods and even existing apartment trends.

What the real factor is was the post-war prosperity of the fifties that accelerated suburbanization. The usual narrative given to me by schools was war-time rationing meant a lot of people had a lot of savings in the bank to roll out the moment the command war economy ended. But also at the time: the US was the only producing market left in the “western world” at the end of the War and had the unique position of supplying all the world’s economy with its tremendous surplus. So wages as well rose creating a massive (predominately white) working class families with a lot of spending money. The modern suburb just manifested itself as a new way to take over the extra savings.

Boomer responsibility for the suburbs isn’t any different from us had we been in the same situation and what followed from there is just what happens if you make a bunch of people land owners and land-lords: they take away the good things.

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Background Pony #96B8

@Latecomer
I think you’re right that they weren’t close, but that’s because the Trump era in terms of actual policy, was farther left then America in the 90s. I agree though that the lack of internet helped in so far as the perceived state of the country. Now with places like Twitter everyone feels the need to announce to the world their own hot takes, and everyone else needs to either support them or hate them. Since traditional news sources have to compete with blogs and fringe groups they too will run with hot takes from their commentary sections and not bother with vetting info from their news sections.

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AaronMk

Sky funeral

@phoenixacezero

@Latecomer
to use to prevent power hungry dictators.

You’re not going to be using your shitty civilian AR15 to shoot down a C-130

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@phoenixacezero
Looking at the American murder rate compared to other countries… either it doesn’t help, or it does and America is naturally the world’s foulest pit of depravity. The tyrant thing isn’t going to work as long as they control the army. And hunting is a hobby nowadays, not to put food on the table.

@tehwatever
Well, yes, of course. And I did say I didn’t intend to, because of their necessity.

Basically, cars, knives, electricity, guns and many other things are all too dangerous to allow on any basis other than them being vital to a prosperous society. The others all pass that test - guns don’t.

@Background Pony #96B8

the Trump era in terms of actual policy, was farther left then America in the 90s.

You got some examples for that claim? (Ideally, not based in Obama-era stuff Trump didn’t get around to repealing?)

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phoenixacezero

@AaronMk
No. That just idiotic. AR15 good for combat or surprise attack if you know where your enemy is going. It also a hassle to sneak around. There are other to take down C-130, few which are nearly impossible, with sabotaging being possible but require planning.

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NitroFury

Nitro Cat Bad!

@Background Pony #96B8

@Latecomer
I think you’re right that they weren’t close, but that’s because the Trump era in terms of actual policy, was farther left then America in the 90s.

Citation needed

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AaronMk

Sky funeral

@phoenixacezero

@AaronMk
No. That just idiotic. AR15 good for combat or surprise attack if you know where your enemy is going. It also a hassle to sneak around. There are other to take down C-130, few which are nearly impossible, with sabotaging being possible but require planning.

Your low-caliber plink-plink rifle isn’t going to take on the US military and all its capabilities no matter what you say. At this point, no populace of well-armed civilians is going to take on the brunt of the national army without that army itself turning against itself in part or in majority, or significant outsider support. At this level: your AR15 no longer matters or being a lose collection of alienated lone wolves and enters into a much higher stage of organization.

Which tbh, seeing as how none of you talk about this indicates that no libertarian 2A insurrection will ever work out because it’s on no organizational principle and will have no institutional support from within or without to do anything but be a lethal annoyance.

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Latecomer

@AaronMk
Know what it probably will do, though? Teach the dictator’s troops to treat anyone and everyone as a potential armed threat. Can’t see that doing much for their discretion…

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AaronMk

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@Latecomer

@AaronMk
Know what it probably will do, though? Teach the dictator’s troops to treat anyone and everyone as a potential armed threat. Can’t see that doing much for their discretion…

That’s literally any government

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Latecomer

@AaronMk
…I can’t tell if you’re too cynical or I’m too idealistic. But certainly, many occupations have taken place in history without the slaughter of the general populace.

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Zincy

In Vino Veritas

@Latecomer

They weren’t fighting the largest, most well armed, most technologically developed national army in world history.

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Latecomer

@Zincy
No, but they did face forces which could have easily eliminated them if they considered them a threat. They stayed their hands, at least often, because they did not consider the average, unarmed citizen as such.

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