Don't blame me, I voted for the other guy. (Politics General)

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@CaptainXtra  
Not really, the Empire was already slowly falling apart before emperor Constantine basically made christianity the official religion of the empire, that was between the years 312 and 321. The western empire fell around the year 476, but it was a combination of corruption, a weak army and invasions and rebellions. the eastern empire fell on 1453, conquered by the ottomans
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How would you define it then? “Something something private property”?
 
Walter Benjamin sums it up pretty well, “Fascism arises when a revolution fails”.
 
The historical trend of fascism comes as a mobilization of the upper and middle class in a country against a period of worker revolts. The rise of Nazi Germany occurred due in part to the failure of the revolutionary inter-war period which made the German middle class and Freikorps consolidate to seize power against the known insurrectionary communists. Italian Fascism was born out of the Beinnio Rosso in Italy, the two years of revolutionary activity by the Italian working class against the government, the Fascists were born out of this period and became organized under the party of Mussolini for their later march on Rome.
 
The ideological/values argument of fascism ultimately fails because most or all national entities or parliamentarian groups are going to crib from the Fascist playbook as written by people like Umberto Eco, not as a matter of optimal political strategy, but that’s the nature of these parties; who are organized from the same economic classes that would form a fascist united front when counter-radicalized. Historical fascism has also had a tendency to rip around and do whatever it takes to uphold its imagery. Mussolini’s Fascist party was notoriously back and forth, being founded in part by a poet who was later imprisoned or executed for being too queer or something.
 
The model of Italian fascism as well also ripped back and forth along the 2-dimensional “spectrum” often used to describe politics. The Fiume affair under D’Annunzio was the formative case of post-war Fascism where Italian decadent poet D’Annunzio and some of his old military hands went to take over the Italian/Croatian city of Fiume/Rijeka as a reaction against the post-war situation in Europe. The Free State of Fiume would flip and flop back and forth along the spectrum, starting at the hard right and moving left as its own political situation changed, all the while rejecting such things as socialism and communism but applying a coked-up facade of democratic principle and theater*. Ironically, Fiume received significant aid from Left Syndicalists who’d steal freighters to send to the city, it was entirely supplied by piracy on the Adriatic; so thanks Vaush, for keeping the Funny City alive I guess.
 
*It should be noted that while Fascism is described as “anti-democratic” it’s still practically pro-democratically since often times democratic institutions and measures has been deployed to back the validity of the state, even if openly fucked. Nazi Germany still held elections, if only to slap on a veneer of legitemacy.
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Sometimes you encounter something blisteringly stupid, I did the other day.
 
 
Where a, special, lass proclaimed that Pagnism, specifically of the Celtic and Norse variety, was “inherently racist”.
 
 
My entire religion is, in the eyes of this moron, racist because it’s from a historically white area.
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Hmm… I’m sure people have applied politcal readings of varying applicability on them in the past. I don’t know much about them, so I wouldn’t try and do them myself. The original versions, at least, were rather light on story.
 
And what you need is to stop seeing diverse identities as “political” and not natural.
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I actually had plans to make a game that revolved around politics… In its backstory. America fell, dictators rose, and we are the Precursors. The game is set in 90210 AD BTW.
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Honestly, what bothers me about Take-Two’s panel is that they’re basically just trying to draw attention away from their shady practices.
 
It feels very much like they’re using an issue like diversity in media as a way to say “we aren’t as bad as you thought we were,” wanting people to forget the fact that they overwork employees, support a guy that has a long line of harrasing others, and heavily push for the greediest monetization schemes in gaming, up to and including implementing ACTUAL ####ING GAMBLING IN A GAME AIMED AT KIDS.
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@Kiryu-Chan
Honestly, what bothers me about Take-Two’s panel is that they’re basically just trying to draw attention away from their shady practices.
It feels very much like they’re using an issue like diversity in media as a way to say “we aren’t as bad as you thought we were,” wanting people to forget the fact that they overwork employees, support a guy that has a long line of harrasing others, and heavily push for the greediest monetization schemes in gaming, up to and including implementing ACTUAL ####ING GAMBLING IN A GAME AIMED AT KIDS.
 
Oh someone is using progressive language to paper over their inherently exploitative labor practices and to guilt otherwise we’ll meaning liberals to their side to distract from or discourage any sort of organization?
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@AaronMk  
You hit it right on the mark there.
 
Like seriously, I couldn’t care less about what time the conference was held at. The fact that it’s a company who treats it employees and customers like s### talking about it just pisses me off.
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Although to be honest, they probably also did it knowing that the conservative grifters whining about “muh SJW politics” would bring them tons of coverage over it.
 
It’s smart, but also scummy as all hell.
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Have it ever occurred to you that people prefer natural diversity and inclusion instead of force ones.
 
Has it ever occurred to you that “forced diversity” is a bullshit term? This post pretty much sums it up.
 
There Is no such thing as “forced diversity”. There doesn’t need to be a justification for having diverse stories.
Nothing grinds my gears when I hear writers complain about forced diversity or, having diversity forced down our throats, or trying to find a reason to “justify” making their stories diverse. Like your WIP is litterally set in a world with dragons, magic, and witches but having a Asian dude is where you draw the line and need to justify him and his existence somehow? That’s just bullshit. No one ever says a story with a bunch of straight white dudes is “forced”. There’s never any justification for a story to have only or majority white dudes.
When you really break it down people who use “forced diversity” unironically use mean, “forced Diversity” is when diverse people appear in a work for the sole purpose of garnering attention and/or sales or “Forced Diversity” is when diverse people are poorly written.
The first one usually heard cries of pandering. But that’s all advertising is its pandering. People who are usually the ones being pandered to seem to have an issue with it when it’s done for others. Like of course you’d market a book about black people to gasp black people. That’s smart marketing and knowing your audience. In the world of film Tyler perry is a master at that.(no matter how little I think of his movies). And the vast majority of the time it’s never the “sole” reason a character exists, just the one people use to denounce said character. It’s one of the many reason that make up the fully developed character. Which leads me to my next point.
People say a diverse character is “forced” if they poorly written. They never say this about white straight dudes. I can think of dozens of horribly written white dude characters who have never been called forced. Just badly written. White characters seem to be given more leeway in this regard. If a diverse character isn’t perfect and gave great flaws and motivations they are automatically called “forced”. This goes to my earlier point of needing “a reason” or “justification” for diverse characters. Which is just asanine.
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I really love it that for most of my life we’ve been campaigning for video games to be considered art, and many developers clearly have an interest in getting that prestige, so they at least gesture to the idea of indepth, insightful, and artistic stories to meet what has been a gamer demand before GamerGate. And now we have nice little artful games, or sweeping cinematic games, and indie devs really going where big studios refuse to.
 
 
Then someone like Silbasa pops up and is like, “no lol”
 
 
 
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A few days ago on Twitter, I wanted to ask a certain user about how not to be “anti-White”. That user was a White nationalist who kept saying “STOP KILLING WHITE PEOPLE”, “losing your country”, something about Jews, and “anti-White, anti-White, anti-White”.
 
I only asked him how to avoid being “anti-White” and how to portray White people. That user decided to block me: maybe it’s because I’m Malaysian, or I told them that I like blondes.
 
What’s your advice regarding this Twitter user and others who keep saying “anti-White, anti-White, anti-White”? I understand that there is violence against White people in South Africa, Europe, and parts of the US, and people bullying White people in those parts, but from what I have seen from their websites (like Groypers, VDare) I think those people who kept using those terms care less about Whites and more about getting revenge on POC/non-Whites.
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your focusing way too much on the skin color. Stop doing that or you’ll just over complicate matter when it comes talking to a person. Same with person of any nationality. Just talk. This advice also applies to when writing a character in general. Some writer when it comes to same sex couple tend to make the mistake of focusing way too on a character sexuality and as a result create something akin to a trashy romance novel you get in a gift basket or every generic Christmas romance movie you see on the hallmark channel.  
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May I remind you of Jared of powderpuff girl? Plus in some case it’s because of some adopting ideology similar to segregation such as only a black character can be voice by a black person, which might get complicated if they decided to go with nationality along with sexuality which can make search very difficult.
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Although to be honest, they probably also did it knowing that the conservative grifters whining about “muh SJW politics” would bring them tons of coverage over it.
It’s smart, but also scummy as all hell.
 
Plus it doesn’t help the type of audience they attract, which will most likely be the ones that have very questionable (and extremist) political opinions.
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Then you got grifter using communities as the way to hide something or to use for their own agenda. There also some that are taking being supporter to an extreme which only causes more hate toward said community or they say they support us, just to make money off of it. Chrunchyroll is the latter as they are getting called out now for lying about sending money to artist in Japan and using it for lining their own pockets.
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It often seems to carry a connotation of “who would include that sort of thing if they weren’t forced to?”. That said, there are levels of blatancy - not that all consider it a bad thing.
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