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I don’t know bro, because I’m of two minds about Donny Deals running again. On the one hand it would be a colossal fuckup on the part of the republicans and would basically hand victory to whatever fuckup the democrats run, including Warren, Harris, or Agent Pete*; but on the other, if he both runs and wins, it’ll be funny seeing liberals on suicide watch again, and it would punish them for learning nothing from 2016 and 2020.
*(NGL Agent Pete winning and the CIA outright running the country would also be funny to see.)
Speaking of 2024, I was reading on StupIdpol the other day about how because Harris is considered unelectable (laughable given who the previous president was, I know), the democrats are considering nominating her to the Supreme Court in order to (and I quote)
Mr Biden could then use Section 2 of the 25th Amendment to nominate a more popular vice president.
Among the contenders are the people I named above (sans Harris, obviously) and Amy Klobuchar.
The veracity of such a plan is quite doubtful, and even wonks and lanyards from the beltway are skeptical of such a plan working, given the current senate breakdown. I see where they’re coming from, but I don’t have much sympathy for them, since this is very much the #VoteBlueNoMatterWho chickens coming home to roost.
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Because it’s a very broad question to ask and expect a yes or no answer on, the fact that we’re discussing the etc. part shows that no, it wasn’t self evident. If we are talking about someone who is unable to care for themselves for one reason or another I personally believe I should do what I can, within reason, to help them, be it donating money or time via volunteering. As for society, if people in society feel the same way I think they should do the same, if enough people feel the government should do it, then the government should do it.
As for someone simply unwilling to do it, I would not donate my money or time to them, but if others in society decide they want to support them then they can also volunteer, and if they come together to decide to use the government then they can do that. The government regularly does things with taxpayer money I disagree with.
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I used to feel the same, but after seeing recent interviews with him…yeah, I could see him running again. I don’t necessarily think it’s a good idea mind you, but 2016 redux without the Russians™️ to blame this time would be entertaining, especially if he won again.
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I really hope the guy drops dead before that happens. After the last year and how bad he handled the pandemic(among other things), the guy has absolutely no business leading a country
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Even putting his politics and the way he acts aside, just his health aone is probably a big reason why he shouldn’t run.
He’s already been stated that he’s out of shape, he’s in his early-mid 70s, and he’s already been infected with COVID during his presidency.
Dude could basically drop dead at any minute if he decided to try and run again
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In a way, you communists are right. Capitalism will end up making people poorer because of inflation and greed - it has to be changed to make society more convenient for poorer people. I prefer something like democratic socialism or what Norway does, but with less focus on corporations and more punishments against politicians and middlemen.
I wonder if the natural result of inflation, if left unchecked, is Zimbabwe or Venezuela, but with corporate or political tyrants reducing people to slaves.
What would his supporters do after he dies? Elect a new cult leader, or wage war and terrorism?
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Mark Meadows, Trump’s former chief of staff, revealed in a book he wrote that Trump got tested positive for COVID on September 26 of last year, a week prior to the official announcement of him being infected and his hospitalization, and three days before his first debate with Biden (where he conveniently arrived too late to be tested ahead).
When asked about it, Trump of course dismissed it as fake news™, relying on a second test done immediately after, which could very well have been a false negative.
Who knows how many people his dumb ass contaminated during that week?
What would his supporters do after he dies? Elect a new cult leader, or wage war and terrorism?
Probably tear each other apart over which new golden calf to worship.
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Muhyiddin, the former prime minister and now the leader of the Recovery Council, is planning to set up several groups to address increasing food prices in Malaysia. The groups will also go after merchants who take advantage of the rising prices to extort money from customers.
A citizen’s group in Malaysia is also asking the government to go after chicken farmers, who allegedly denied that they were raising prices.
And UMNO politicians (nationalists) keep worrying about alcohol and English names instead of rising prices. Shame on the country’s stupid leaders!
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In a way, you communists are right. Capitalism will end up making people poorer because of inflation and greed - it has to be changed to make society more convenient for poorer people. I prefer something like democratic socialism or what Norway does, but with less focus on corporations and more punishments against politicians and middlemen.
I wonder if the natural result of inflation, if left unchecked, is Zimbabwe or Venezuela, but with corporate or political tyrants reducing people to slaves.
DemSocs aren’t all that good and when th cards are on the table they’re likely to just do what Germany did in the interwar year. Desperate violence to keep the state trucking as it falls under siege from both sides, but especially their fellow travellers on “The Left”.
The funniest episode tho from the German Interwar is the time a left-Anarchist struck a deal with the Freikorps - who would later become a core component of the Nazi Party - to try and take Bavaria back from communists who took it away from the Anarchist(s) because they were I actually doing anything.
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I want to know how would a Marxist or true socialist state handle inflation, such as if it’s in other countries and then in that state?
When I asked this question to communists on Quora, they suggests that inflation will never happen in a true socialist state society because inflation is nothing more than corporate manipulation to force people to slave away. Their version is more closer to anarcho-communism, where there is almost no authority except a shared-ownership by all citizens under some world commune.
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I want to know how would a Marxist or true socialist state handle inflation, such as if it’s in other countries and then in that state?
When I asked this question to communists on Quora, they suggests that inflation will never happen in a true socialist state society because inflation is nothing more than corporate manipulation to force people to slave away. Their version is more closer to anarcho-communism, where there is almost no authority except a shared-ownership by all citizens under some world commune.
Inflation is a symptom of the commodity form existing (that being a commodity is any good (or service) that is exchanges to obtain another; commonly money is an exchange commodity offered to access other commodities). So once or when the commodity form can be abolished and things are produced as needed and not for exchange inflation and deflation will disappear with the commodity form.
If we are to assume states like the Soviet Union or China are or ever were socialist states (which can be empirically disproven) we can study however ways in which inflation was tackled. In the case of China this was to actually scale back wages and benefits and decrease the amount of money in circulation and to just up front offer food and services to the workers as was the case I think in the second Five Year Plan. I’ve been posting bits from Chuang’s Sorghum and Steel in this thread and I think one bit was from a section of the series on the inflationary period.
However since China in particular during the “socialist” period was incomplete in all ways, being even an incomplete market society as it was an incomplete socialist one, black markets also later emerged to fill the distribution gaps the Party overlooked in designing their top-down - or rather, middle management-down - development plans
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I think the only ways inflation can ever be lowered or erased (so people hopefully won’t starve) are:
a. anarcho-communism or true communism (which means bye bye to countries and your own business)
b. slashing zeroes like Venezuela did
c. overproduction and more supplies, punishing the rich and corrupt
d. revolution, which might readjust prices and make them low again
e. development? (e.g. Malaysia - if they weren’t developed, prices in Malaysia will be in the hundreds like in Thailand and Cambodia)’
f. mass death (less mouths to feed, less demand)
If we cannot stop inflation, because the capitalists say so, better increase wages and tax the rich and politicians! Do they want to force people to overwork and starve?
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If you are really interested in inflation you should look into monetary policy around inflation and research Japanese deflation. Don’t rely on Communists on Quora, or Twitter, or posters from here.
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Governments attempted price controls and reducing the amount of money to discourage borrowing from banks and spending. The former might cause a recession (more poverty), while the latter encourages imports.
I thought that inflation = everything always becomes more expensive, and I forgot that it’s possible for prices to go down even during inflation if there is more supply.
On the other hand, sometimes I think about how come Malaysia’s prices are less expensive than our neighbours (for example, Thailand has hundreds in a cost, Indonesia has thousands, while Malaysia has around 80) - it could be due to development from the petroleum and palm oil industry under Prime Minister Mahathir. Without that development, we would have ended up becoming as poor as our neighbours, with a decent meal costing around hundreds of ringgit instead of dozens.
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I’m not up to speed on Malysia’s economy or it’s history, so I really can’t comment on it’s status. I would say though that just because your prices are cheaper doesn’t necessarily mean you are less poor then your neighbors. It sounds like your country isn’t experiencing an awful amount of inflation though, so that’s good.
“Governments attempted price controls and reducing the amount of money to discourage borrowing from banks and spending. The former might cause a recession (more poverty), while the latter encourages imports.
I thought that inflation = everything always becomes more expensive, and I forgot that it’s possible for prices to go down even during inflation if there is more supply.”
Are you talking about what governments have done in response to COVID? Again I can’t speak to your government, but here in the US when speaking on inflation you can’t simply look to what policies the government is doing. The Federal Reserve right now has had interest rates extremely low, which actually encourages borrowing. Their is talk about them raising the interest rates soon to offset inflation, but their is concern from some that it will toss the economy into a recession. I think that is overblown personally.
Scott Sumner’s blog is a good one to read if you want to get into monetary policy. You may not agree with everything he says, but it’s still good to read up on it. He posts on Econlog as well.
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Mark Meadows, Trump’s former chief of staff, revealed in a book he wrote that Trump got tested positive for COVID on September 26 of last year, a week prior to the official announcement of him being infected and his hospitalization, and three days before his first debate with Biden (where he conveniently arrived too late to be tested ahead).
When asked about it, Trump of course dismissed it as fake news™, relying on a second test done immediately after, which could very well have been a false negative.
Who knows how many people his dumb ass contaminated during that week?
Even worse was that he met with a Gold Star Family right after the test. He then proceeded to blame them for giving him Covid.
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Though the two decades between the end of the GLF and the advent of the reform era are often portrayed as a society-wide struggle between “two lines” held by different factions of the Party,[70] the reality is that these factional struggles were themselves largely epiphenomena of various economic and social crises that arose over the course of the socialist era. The picture of politics and policy in this era as the product of “two line struggle” is largely an illusion reinforced by state propaganda campaigns within China during and after the fact, as well as by the export of these biased sources to various political-academic factions in Western countries over the course of the 1960s and 1970s, when “Maoism” came to designate a distinct political current.
Prototypical of this problem is the example of the Shanghai Textbook. Originally published as the Fundamentals of Political Economy in Shanghai in 1974, during the peak of state influence during the “long” Cultural Revolution, the book was meant as a summary of Party ideology at the time. Ostensibly describing “socialist political economy” as theorized and practiced in China, the textbook was translated and published, with accompanying essays, by American Maoists under the name Maoist Economics and the Revolutionary Road to Socialism: The Shanghai Textbook.[71] The textbook, alongside other collections of state propaganda and reports from foreigners’ tours of model factories,[72] has been taken as a common reference point for both supporters and detractors.[73]
The problem, for either political persuasion, is that the data laid out in the Textbook is purely mythological. The text’s theoretical poverty aside, no system such as that described by the book ever existed. By the same token, the practices observed by touring model factories were often limited to those factories. Though some features were obliquely shared between reality and these Potemkin villages, all the fundamental characteristics were different. The Textbook is better understood as a sort of religious text rather than a description of the socialist era’s economy. Tours of model enterprises became a kind of pilgrimage, reinforcing the holy status of such texts for Western radicals. Scholars basing their studies on policy pronouncements are then engaged in a sort of glyphomancy, pulling apart the minute details of leaders’ speeches and rearranging them to fit whatever narrative one wants to tell.
Finally, an apt description of the current state of China Discourse
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