Don't blame me, I voted for the other guy. (Politics General)

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Any “win” from the dems is always the absolute bare minimum thrice watered down to the point the US barely keeps itself ahead of Egypt, Myanmar, or South Africa on any metric other than “GDP” or “military spending”.
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I’ll be sure to remember that when pregnant people die from preventable ectopic pregnancies and couples go broke from unwanted children, who’ll grow up in a system with defunded public education and traumatising events like school shootings are the norm.
hey, don’t look at me, I mentioned policies that would help the poor with children and that barely scratches the surface of what I think would be good for the country. If people actually gave a fuck about helping the poor we would be talking about some of those things but no its just mockery and 🍅🍅🍅🍅🍅🍅
hell if you have something else that you think would be a good idea I’d love to chat about it but you’re going to have to, ya know, talk to me like I’m not a republican NPC
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Ghislaine Maxwell has been sentenced to 20 years for her involvement with Epstein’s child sex trafficking.
And her clients still has not been named. Probably why she has been “suicided” yet.
A lot to digest from the latest Jan 6 hearing. Highlights this day was that Trump not only knew his rally goers were armed that day, bit he demanded that metal detectors be taken away for them.
It also turned out he assaulted one of his secret service body guards when he refused to take Trump to see his faithful attack the Capitol in person, and spent the next couple hours literally breaking plates and throwing food at walls.
I honestly don’t know if prison or juvenile hall is more appropriate for this manchild.
GQP Representative Lauren Norbert has dropped the pretense and outright called for America to be a theocracy. She says the separation of church and state is junk and that the church should direct the government.
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I really wish there was a better way to vote 3rd party. Honestly I think ranked choice voting is a great idea. If we did I think the electorate would certainly be less coo coo for cocoa puffs crazy because we wouldn’t constantly be voting for the lesser evil. speaking of politicians we need to get stocks out of politics. I don’t want a freeze I don’t want a blind trust. gone. being a congressman should be a public service not a means of self enrichment.
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Trump’s National Security Advisor was asked several questions during the Jan 6 hearing. He pleaded the Fifth to all of them.
He was asked if the Insurrection was justified. He pleaded the Fifth.
He was asked if it was justified morally or legally. Fifth.
He was asked if he believed in the “Peaceful transition of power”. He pleaded the Fifth.
This guy was a Lt. General. He swore an oath to the Constitution. And yet he couldn’t say the easiest thing ever in that he believes in a “Peaceful transfer of power”.
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Or y’know, they didn’t bring anything to the table beyond PMC concern-trolling over things that matter when everyone is comfortable materially, and don’t when they aren’t.
Speaking of which, my mate brings up a good point with this picture:
I mean, besides making me look like an idiot in front of my socialist comrades who said libs don’t have the praxis to really fight for Roe v. Wade, why aren’t they out in force making their voices heard on this? This to me is a much bigger upset than the Floyd stuff, as bad as that was, yet mates with an ear to the ground haven’t heard dick. I’ve seen liberals like Carlos Maza push for violence to be done, but I haven’t seen any actual violence being done, nor any breakage of shit either.
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Elijah Cummings would say that about his fellow congressmen, mostly referring to the Republicans. And yet, the evils of the GQP, as well as their electorate, would eventually rub off on the left. Kids getting gunned down in schools while at the same time having your rights taken away. Of course it’s happening to the left as well.
Even Goku had to turn bad after Krillin was killed in order to turn Super Saiyan to finally defeat Frieza.
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I’m sure someone will do something stupid. The far left has enough wackos to do it, but I don’t think their is enough support for broad violence.
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I was talking to an old friend about Roe vs. Wade. It went like this:
Him: “It’s just putting it back on a state level letting the people choose. It’s quite literally putting the power back to the people. Blue states will still allow it, Red states might get rid of it and extreme blue states like California will probably have even less restrictions.”
Me: [Pretty much told him about how putting it on the state level is not helping to give ‘power to the people’; pro-choice on the individual level in every state is what does that. Also mentioned how the republicans are not going to stop there and want to ban abortion nationwide and also later go after other rights such as gay marriage, LGBT rights, contraception, etc.]
Him: “Dude you gotta stop drinking the Kool-aid. None of that shit is gonna happen. The Republicans arn’t some boogey-man hiding under beds waiting to snatch rights away. It’s literally just putting something that was never a constitutional right back in the hands of the people. You’re sounding VERY unhinged”
…He always was very gullible…
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Hopefully I won’t have to if this ends up turning the midterms in democrats’ favor.
But still, the whole “power to the people” argument he was making was one of the dumbest things I’ve ever heard him or anyone in this debate say. This isn’t giving power to the people, it’s just taking away people’s rights in the red states. Red staters who don’t want an abortion already have the power to choose not to get an abortion; that’s what pro-choice means. People who live in red states who do want or need an abortion, however, are now fucked.
Even pro-lifers are soon to get fucked over by this overturning. Try carrying a baby that you find has genetic defects and will live a life of suffering, see how pro-life you really are.
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Difficult to say. There has hardly been any far-left since the 1980s because at that point the left as a whole chickened out and said “violence was never acceptable,” which is why the right has since held a near monopoly on violence.
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Considering the ANTIFA violence and attempted burning down of police stations and pregnancy centers, I wouldn’t say the far left chickened out or that the right has a monopoly on violence.
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a thing that annoys me about liberal defenders of liberal governments is a willingness to let them off the hook at 1 excuse for inaction. “we can’t do the needed thing, because X” is so often just accepted, there’s never a backup plan or alternate route expected of those in power
if the rules say you can’t, use your power to change the rules! that’s what power is for. if the public aren’t with you, what are you doing to change their perception? if you don’t have the votes, what are you doing to get them? just saying ‘go vote’ doesn’t count
if something is necessary, you should never let them off the hook until it is done. this is their job, they should expect roadblocks, have backup plans for their backup plans. “our opposition party surprised us by opposing us, so we can’t” is never an excuse
the blame falls not on the party who refuse to use their power, but on those who don’t support the party enthusiastically enough - even when the party is clearly signalling via their inaction that all they’d do with more power would be to come up with more excuses not to use it
sitting around hoping they get more votes next time isn’t doing something, that’s passing the responsibility on to those beneath them. they’re trusting in their supporters to be petty and hierarchical, to never question power & to punch down
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So, I don’t know a damn thing about this dude so I can’t tell if his word is trustworthy or not…
Would Engel be one of Trump’s yes men?
The only thing I find questionable about the story is noted landwhale Trump being able to fit between the partisan between the passenger and driver seats enough to reach and strangle his driver.
If that’s the angle Engel wants to use then yeah I’ll believe him.
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I don’t think Republicans have the desire to overturn obergefell. I think most view it as a settled issue. that’s not to say they are pro-lgbt, of course not; they spend years trying to pass bills saying where grown adults can go potty. However looking at what most of them say I don’t think that breaks the top 20 issuesthey care about. though if you want to take a friendly bet, I’ll put $20 on them not overturning obergefell.
Try carrying a baby that you find has genetic defects and will live a life of suffering, see how pro-life you really are.
I mean I still don’t think pro lifers are in favor of eugenics for medically retarded children.
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Roe V. Wade was “settled law” too, according to two of people who just voted to overturn it.
Nothing is settled law, not anymore at least. And Obergefell relied on similar findings of privacy and a broad reading of the 9th amendment.
Your faith in Republicans being honorable and respecting such trifles as “precident” and “settled law” is either hilariously misguided or an extreme dose of copium to try and isolate this ruling as a “surely they won’t come for me” rationalization.
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