Video Game General 2: Definitive/Remastered Edition

AaronMk
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@AaronMk
It’s much worst than that.
 
No, not really. I know people a lot closer to the source than some YouTube vlogger. A lot of it is based on willful or mistaken mistranslation of Party documents. For example: the so-called “femboy” ban isn’t really a fem-boy ban, but the use of a context sensitive slang term released in a public party memo that has even Chinese media fucking mad because: it’s a context sensitive slang term and leaves the memo easily misread. The actual legal execution of the memo though was less kick out the queers, and more shut down exploitative popularity game shows since one was causing a diplomatic row with Russia by basically contractually enslaving a Russian pretty-boy because he was popular. These shows too also relying on incessantly grooming subjects from an often young age.
 
The law being referred to in western media is also less a ban on queer depictions in video games, at least directly. And more an effort to nuke gambling and gambling based mechanics and pornographic depictions of minors or characters depicted as minors. The under eighteen limitation of game time is true. But probably the only truly defensible aspect. But once someone is over eighteen they can game as long as they want, nothing has changed.
 
The only sector then that this law can be discussed on is purely political and suitable only for the politics thread, and that is because Beijing’s moves are blanket moves there is a lot of collateral and they know it. It’s not out of a particular malice, but as I’ve said there referring to this: because Xi and Beijing both have deadlines to meet, they may be entirely different deadlines and goals but deadlines all the same, and they’re reticent of making the slow and loophole prone consensus approach of the Jiang Xemin years and probably thinking they can come back and clean up the mess later.
 
 
So really it comes back to: a cleaning up of or removing of the consumer exploitative practices behind the gatcha genre as an industry.
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@AaronMk
You may want to watch the video itself. I fail to see how kids only allowed to play video games three hours a week is a simple misunderstanding.
 
It’s not. It’s probably the only legit thing in the discourse. And as far as I care: the only based thing.
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@AaronMk  
There’s also how a LoL character went from a muscular man with long hair and chowing off his abs to a generic-looking paladin to please China’s “anti-feminine men” stance. Honestly, if the goal was to stop digital gambling, than they decided to add more restrictions they wanted to add to justify their more questionable choices. If it was just about the gambling, than they wouldn’t have added the anti-queer and 3h/week rules as well. If anything, less time to play would encourage spending money since they can’t invest the time.
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@AaronMk
There’s also how a LoL character went from a muscular man with long hair and chowing off his abs to a generic-looking paladin to please China’s “anti-feminine men” stance. Honestly, if the goal was to stop digital gambling, than they decided to add more restrictions they wanted to add to justify their more questionable choices. If it was just about the gambling, than they wouldn’t have added the anti-queer and 3h/week rules as well. If anything, less time to play would encourage spending money since they can’t invest the time.
 
Decency laws exist in China and those are bad, yes. But fundamentally it is immaterial.
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@AaronMk  
Not when it is encouraged in the new laws and encourages censorship to please the China Overlord of corporations. If you can’t view the law in it’s entity and say it’s good, than it’s not a good law. Only picking the good parts only encourages the same scummy behavior in the future, and China’s dictator always has many miles.
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@AaronMk
There’s also how a LoL character went from a muscular man with long hair and chowing off his abs to a generic-looking paladin to please China’s “anti-feminine men” stance. Honestly, if the goal was to stop digital gambling, than they decided to add more restrictions they wanted to add to justify their more questionable choices. If it was just about the gambling, than they wouldn’t have added the anti-queer and 3h/week rules as well. If anything, less time to play would encourage spending money since they can’t invest the time.
 
Which character is this? The main censorship I remember because of how much people memed on it was when they airbrushed the cigar out of Graves’s splash art.
 
Meanwhile I’m still butthurt about them redesigning Karthus to be less skeletal because there’s some taboo against skeletons in China.
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@Meanlucario  
I was thinking it was Taric but I wasn’t completely sure. Plus to be fair, that Taric art is for a skin and not his default look. The Chinese art is also a lot closer to how he used to look before his rework.
 
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@Dustcan  
I think you can make that in Monster Hunter 4U.
 
@pixel  
Maybe, though characters tend to change their appearance for a reason, and I’d be lying if other than the crystals, old Taric/Chinese Taric look like a generic paladin. And this is someone who love paladins.
 
@AaronMk  
I’d be lying if other than the crystals, old Taric/Chinese Taric look like a generic paladin. And this is someone who love paladins.
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@AaronMk
I’m well aware. What market was it that made them decide to have him grow out his hair and offer his abs for doing laundry?
 
Does it matter? You can pin the blame on several other countries and their markets as well. Are you going to complain about them, and campaign for some grand notion of freedom in Japan and Germany?
 
Anything involving China comes down to what a friend of mine has described China discourse, a way to deflect from issues at home. Did you know whole ass main characters have had their races changed between countries?
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@AaronMk  
You obviously never seen people in this thread bitch about censorship before if you believe that we only care about it when it involves China. And China is the main target for corporations, so their censorship laws are more impactful than you are willing to understand. Someone already pointed out that another LoL character, Karthus, was also changed because of China’s anti-skeleton censorship.
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@AaronMk
You obviously never seen people in this thread bitch about censorship before if you believe that we only care about it when it involves China. And China is the main target for corporations, so their censorship laws are more impactful than you are willing to understand. Someone already pointed out that another LoL character, Karthus, was also changed because of China’s anti-skeleton censorship.
 
If China made a character a not-skeleton then why can I still look at non-Chinese screenshots that show him as a skeleton.
 
Clearly the Chinese aren’t make globe spanning changes to video games, when they can be modified based on region.
 
Like how, y’know: any other movie, TV show, and video game already is edited based on the market they’re being sold to?
 
So like I’m telling you, I will tell the rest of them: you’re using China as a deflection mechanism if you care so much about these issues over there without also looking inward first. Which I know sounds like a very tankie thing to say, but is also kind of correct, y’know. If you’re so worried about the politics of games then stop being a coward and finding the convenient enemy of the day to frame it.
Meanlucario
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@AaronMk  
Are you really going to justify censorship by saying it doesn’t effect you? If you don’t have an actual argument, than stop talking and let it die.
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@AaronMk
Are you really going to justify censorship by saying it doesn’t effect you? If you don’t have an actual argument, than stop talking and let it die.
 
Because literally what is done to sell to the Chinese, the German, or the Japanese, or hell: the American market doesn’t effect all other markets.
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@AaronMk  
Seeing as how at least one popular FPS (I think it was a CoD game) changed their maps to make the Chinese government happy, censorship isn’t something that stays region-lock. And people in the USA hates censorship outside of people who think that ankles are too sexy to show teenagers.
AaronMk
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@AaronMk
Seeing as how at least one popular FPS (I think it was a CoD game) changed their maps to make the Chinese government happy, censorship isn’t something that stays region-lock. And people in the USA hates censorship outside of people who think that ankles are too sexy to show teenagers.
 
As far as I’m concerned you are failing to even demonstrate your point. So let me demonstrate mine:
 
If China say bone man bad, why can I see bone man still in my video games? Why is bone man still bone man on the Wiki? Why is he still bone man in game? Why is shirtless man still shirtless man in my game, why is he still shirtless man on Wiki?
 
If Nazi man banned in video game, why does Wolfenstein still have Nazi man?
 
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Nuclear bombs are a touchy subject in Japan, so no more nuking settlements or anything. So why can I nuke megaton ?
 
WHY JAPAN HATE DARK SKINNED GIRL
 
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The point being, it happens. It happens all the time in countries not China. And changes made for them, and for China don’t often impact other markets. Fine: maybe Paradox finds it difficult to make regional variations for Hearts of Iron so gives everyone the German version, just loc’d appropriate for that given country. And perhaps a change to a multiplayer map is such a small change it’s pointless to alter it, or even altering it might mean Activision can’t get American players to play with Chinese players - ping allowing - so they accept it as a comparatively minor alteration.
 
The point here isn’t things are changed from some holy “artistic vision”. It comes to a multi-faceted point: a new age Sino-phobia out of convenience. A failure to realize capitalist implications on art. And all of this again still goes straight to politics so is - and never has been - suitable for the two threads.
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