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I still don’t get the whole “bronies are nazis,” crap, especially given all the gay-‘shipping fanart, and such on this site aren’t exactly “nazi propoganda.”
 
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What brought up Cuteo, and PinkiePony? They’re old drama, and nobody cares about them anymore.
 
The whole “controversial-OC VS free speech” arguments do kinda remind me of the “Molestia” drama though, but probably worse from both sides.
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Blame Wootmaster mostly
 
But its mainly because of the whole bullshit with BLM, and Antifa
 
Lots of people were downvoting it, as many people in my honest opinion ought to, especially these days, and someone made a joke about how Aryanne “subtly promotes propaganda”, or something like that
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Because it never been about nazis.
 
Why do you think the guy who made that article hit piece toward this site, had a history of draw nazi characters? The main premise was to have control of the admins and mods on the this site. To have full control of what people say or post on this site. While putting their artists in a boiling pots.
 
Which their plan backfire financially.
 
Its like they really believe people wanted to experience Tumblr again on this site.
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I dunno, the political climate is getting so messed up, that even liberals are getting called “nazis” for “not being liberal enough.”
 
As somebody with Jewish ancestry, and that includes ancestry & family that fought REAL nazis in WW2, I really wish people wouldn’t throw “nazi” around so carelessly at anyone they disagree with, or “Cry Wolf,” or “Witch-hunt” with the term.  
I hope this doesn’t start more D-DOS attacks, and such against the site, as well.
 
As for the controversial OC, while not a fan, I understand some only like her out of irony/edgyness, as an actual “nazi brony” is like a contradiction, and nazis are like a bad joke nowadays. Though, some are probably getting too protective of her after recent dramas, and that’s not helping either. Especially, those who see this site for the first time wouldn’t understand the whole reason why fans are defending a “nazi OC.”  
As without context, that doesn’t look good.
 
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I don’t know what they hope to achieve, as it’s basically propoganda against a fanbase for a now dead cartoon.
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On a pic of that certain controversial OC, (can’t remember, all I remember was it was an anthro’ one) he was arguing with a few about “mustache guy didn’t do anything wrong.” He wasn’t rude, nor cussed, or even did anything to hint he was just trolling/faking, and was oddly kinda polite, but very very ignorant about WW2, and seemed to believe some B.S. he read online.  
After awhile, the admin Smiling had enough, and told him to leave, stating that real nazi supporters aren’t welcome here. After that he disappeared.
 
This was years before the recent dramas.
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Basically the guy was trolling
 
Thats a bit harsh saying that "Nazi Supporters" arent welcome here, before the drama obviously
 
And no, I`m not a Nazi sympathizer, I do however support history
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So the person asking if they can go back to posting Nordic Resistance Movement images in the ‘ask the mods’ thread must be my imagination. Thank heavens.
 
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I remember the person being discussed. They were not trolling. And they still periodically show back up here pushing for things like Ethnostates and eugenics and ‘culling the herd’ of [insert minority here].
 
People who unironically call themselves neo-nazis or even self-describe as old-world style nazis (as some do) are tolerated if they follow our rules, which some do. But anything or any one promoting IRL neo-nazi organizations or casting themselves in the role of a modern day “Nazi supporter” in their posts here is not welcome. That has always been true, and there has been no change to that.
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Politics is all about gate keeping and virtue signaling now. Not about important issues or progress.
 
It is literally Highschool drama in adult land.
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People don’t just unironically called themselves Nazis (unless it a RP or some shit). People just post edgy shit for the sake of, to gain a reaction, or they find it funny. They don’t hide behind terms, they just do it because it provocative. That like someone who unironically calling themselves a pedophile, when they drawn loli content. That not how that worked.
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So you think someone promoting the Nordic Resistance Movement and calling themselves a neo-nazi is ‘just being provocative’?
 
Even when someone raises their hand and says, “Yes, I’m a neo-nazi and I want to post pro-neo-nazi images promoting current new-nazi political parties”, you claim they aren’t being serious or are just RPing.
 
What would it take for you to actually see someone as a neo-nazi?
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So you think someone promoting the Nordic Resistance Movement and calling themselves a neo-nazi is ‘just being provocative’?
Even when someone raises their hand and says, “Yes, I’m a neo-nazi and I want to post pro-neo-nazi images promoting current new-nazi political parties”, you claim they aren’t being serious or are just RPing.
 
It is hard to differentiate between “long ruse” and genuine sperging.
 
What would it take for you to actually see someone as a neo-nazi?
 
For me it would be “getting out and going to ‘neo-nazi rallies’ and other events”.
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But for you someone trying to promote neo-nazi rallies or similar content on the site is just playing a “long ruse” or something?
 
There’s more than a million unique visitors to this site every month, and newspapers and other media sites have been advertising all over the planet that this is a ‘safe haven’ for nazis and racists for two months.
 
Why is it so hard to believe that there might actually be some literal neo-nazis showing up here thinking this is some sort of welcome home for them now?
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But for you someone trying to promote neo-nazi rallies or similar content on the site is just playing a “long ruse” or something?
 
Considering that it is INCREDIBLY easy to “promote” such things (literally all you have to do is post a link and say something), then yes.  
It doesn’t even have to be a “long ruse”, you can just create an account and spam links and say how “good” such groups are.  
It literally cost nothing.  
There’s more than a million unique visitors to this site every month, and newspapers and other media sites have been advertising all over the planet that this is a ‘safe haven’ for nazis and racists for two months.
 
How many neo-nazis have you seen in past 2 months on this site?  
Why is it so hard to believe that there might actually be some literal neo-nazis showing up here thinking this is some sort of welcome home for them now?
 
Yes.  
Why would a neo-nazi want to recruit a fucking brony into their ranks?  
(not to mention that “neo-nazi brony” sounds as stupid as “gay neo-nazi” or “black neo-nazi”)
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Why is it so hard to believe that there might actually be some literal neo-nazis showing up here thinking this is some sort of welcome home for them now?
 
and newspapers and other media sites have been advertising all over the planet that this is a ‘safe haven’ for nazis and racists for two months.
 
It really has been more of a slow broil that sometimes pops up over endless media coverage beyond that first wave. Most far right see through the “nazi” label in its liberal application. They wouldn’t unironically believe this place as a safe haven and probably see it as a hugbox but some would possibly do is try to get more and more general things of the fandom pushed into the “nazi” label as an accelerationist move for recruits. It’s why you got to stand your ground, stamp out against unironic behavior if you see it, and not let the media or others define you (even if you decide other action is needed).
 
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I would say more likely than not that guy would be one if he was genuinely asking about it with just a little bit of window dressing on his “brand”. If he was randomly jumping in a very aggressive way than Poe Law would apply and I’d say 50/50 chance of him being that or a troll.
 
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Why would a neo-nazi want to recruit a fucking brony into their ranks?
 
To be fair /mlpol/ does exist, though tiny and a subculture onto itself. You are correct in many far right consider the fandom to be degenerate and you’ll sometimes even see being a member of the fandom be a secondary negative trait of other groups they don’t like in their memes and literature. I wouldn’t consider us prime recruiting material by most groups.
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To be fair /mlpol/ does exist, though tiny and a subculture onto itself.
 
It only exist because moot is a fucking jerk and forced mending of /mlp/ and /pol/ in one of his fucking jokes.  
The only people who go there are larpers and folks that like the aescetic.
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Are you seriously taking one guy arguing for an ethnostate and then conflating that with everyone else regarding the censorship concerns?  
How is that remotely fair?  
newspapers and other media sites have been advertising all over the planet that this is a ‘safe haven’ for nazis and racists for two months.
 
Which ones?
 
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/mlpol/ exists because people from /mlp/ wanted to shitpost with porn and /pol/ got a “man behind the curtain” moment when a majority of their regular shitposters and spambots suddenly vanished for a day or two.
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Are you seriously taking one guy
 
No. I am not doing that.
 
Which ones?
 
Not sure if trolling …
 
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How many neo-nazis have you seen in past 2 months on this site?
 
Just speaking for myself, there have been 6 individuals who I’ve worked with who I thought were just trolling but found out they actually are card-carrying neo-nazies, 5 of whom were asking to promote their groups via ponified versions of their logos or promoting political events, and 1 who was just trying to push their political agenda on LGBTQ images or in the Tartarus thread. Some of them, quite sincerely, are terrified that the users of this site will find out who they are and will come after them. 5 of them are still users on the site. 1 of them is permanently banned, but keeps ban evading. There might be more, but that’s just the ones I worked with in support or PMs. So, maybe 2 or 3 a month, but we’re seeing it more now because of the elections coming up in the US. Every time the US or Europe has elections we start getting more and more people trying to either post their own political propaganda ponifications of their platform, or arguing that we should take down all the ‘recognized and not outlawed political party’ themed images ‘because fairness’.
 
Why would a neo-nazi want to recruit a fucking brony into their ranks?
 
Apparently because they are bronies themselves, but now that Russia Today and Breitbart and the New York Journal have declared this site to be hotbeds of political discourse that welcome Nazis and racists, it seems that some people somehow have gotten the clever idea that this is a good place to find recruits.
 
@doloresbridge  
It really has been more of a slow broil that sometimes pops up over endless media coverage beyond that first wave.
 
Agreed. And we keep seeing more and more sites roll out clickbait articles regurgitating what’s already been said. As the US elections heat up we’ll almost certainly see more.
 
When Breitbart talked about this site, I was kind of hoping that President Trump would tweet about us on the toilet some morning. That would be one for the scrapbook. But, alas, no.
 
I would say more likely than not that guy would be one if he was genuinely asking about it
 
In this case, I’ve been talking to that one person for maybe 2 years now trying to explain why their political party’s posters are not allowed here, and why we aren’t going to delete “everyone else’s political posters because all or nothing ‘fairness’”. So, yeah, that one person definitely is unironic about it, based on their past uploads and the comments they’ve made that we’ve had to delete. They’re literally a card-carrying neo-nazi who loves MLP.
 
I wouldn’t consider us prime recruiting material by most groups.
 
Whenever other sites crack down on them though, like Reddit, we see an uptick here. Or people who we’ve previously banned suddenly show up here again. In some ways, we seem to be kind of the ex-girlfriend that will always loan them our sofa ‘until they get back up on their feet’.
 
Same is true for flat-earther’s, too. It’s hard to believe they exist or care about the Brony community, but here they are. As long as they mind their own business and don’t start spamming links to their latest screed, we don’t care what they get up to.
 
I mean, everyone has to be somewhere.
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There’s more than a million unique visitors to this site every month, and newspapers and other media sites have been advertising all over the planet that this is a ‘safe haven’ for nazis and racists for two months.
Why is it so hard to believe that there might actually be some literal neo-nazis showing up here thinking this is some sort of welcome home for them now?
 
Two months vs EIGHT YEARS. If neo-nazis were really that much of a problem, where was the outcry before all this nonsense?
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I was asked about the last 2 months. I was not asked about the last 8 years.
 
They’ve been problems forever. There’s never been a year here where we didn’t deal with nazi shit in one way or another. Two years ago, a third of staff took weeks or months off because we were so burnt out from nazi shit. Also in August. It’s like Pride Month rolls into some sort of endless feud on the site about nazi-themed images and then by August everyone is so burnt out that people just take a month off.
 
where was the outcry before all this nonsense
 
I don’t know. Do you know? Seems to me that TheAtlantic article was a trigger of some sort. What do you think?
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One guy claims there’s a Nazi problem on this site, a guy who has since admitted to have done it just for shits and giggles, and the Twitter mob take it as gospel. Remind me again why you decided to kowtow to people who exist to be offended by everything over the people who actually use this site?
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