It's been over a month... why is this still going on?

Grave_Mind
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I said I was done last time. In a way, I still am. But the more I’ve stuck around, the more I’ve seen this whole mess go on and on. It’s never stopped. It’s well passed time it did.
 
This whole “debate?” About anti-censorship vs. anti-Nazism? It’s a tumor. That tumor needs to be excised. No side needs to be taken to understand how this whole damn mess has become just an excuse for everyone to fight each other now. Even I’ve had to take a side, and it’s not one that’s given me a lot of favor either way. But I don’t regret it. In my eyes, it doesn’t matter what side you’re on. People are getting hurt. This didn’t have to be a war. But it is now. All of it over a fucking pony art site of all things. Can you believe that?
 
I don’t care what side of the debate you’re on. I don’t care if you’re with the mods or not. It’s been over a month. That’s way too long for this to go on. This isn’t about “freedom.” This isn’t about “protection.” This isn’t about “censorship” or “anti-Nazism.” This is about excuses. Excuses to be annoying. No amount of digging up chat logs or Twitter threads or anything will ever change the fact that THIS. HAS. TO. STOP.
 
I don’t care how. I don’t care what it takes. It’s time to stop all of this. Even if it means completely nuking the forums altogether and just erasing everything. Whatever it takes. It has to end. One way or another. Just as long as it means I don’t have to go on one more fucking day of seeing another fucking thread about “Oh, the mods don’t care about muh freedums” or “The mods are harboring Nahtzees and Peedoos” or some shit.
 
I’m sick of it. I’ve been sick of it.
 
It’s been over a month. Think about that. Are any of you tired of seeing this shit? I can’t be the only one. I can’t be.
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Thanks wootmaster for your generosity of starting this whole thing to begin with! If you gadnt gone to the media none of this would have happened. Everything would have been fine.
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There’s the door, bud. Unsubscribe from the threads and get off the site and policy sub-forum. Filter the end of derpibooru and/or meta or whatever tag combination you want. You’re the one complaining about it.
 
Also if you really didn’t care you wouldn’t be making a big stink about it.
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You’re not alone, I’m also just absolutely tired of it. A simple policy change turned into a make a mountain of a molehill situation where nobody refuses to give up, reminds me of US politics which is highly polarized with each side being an enemy to other from my point of view.
 
I personally appreciate that DB took their stances on recent political issues even though they tend to be US specific. I also don’t care on what side you’re on, true freedom is anarchism and nobody wants that. Freedom of expression is freedom even with small limits. You can claim censorship but all you want is the fight with the system that majority are happy to follow. You still have plenty of room to work with, especially considering how little the rule change eventually did.
 
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@Grave_Mind  
I’m sick of it. I’ve been sick of it.
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I said I was done last time. In a way, I still am. But the more I’ve stuck around, the more I’ve seen this whole mess go on and on. It’s never stopped. It’s well passed time it did.
I’m sick of it. I’ve been sick of it.
 
 
Well, uh, you could always, y’know, like, maybe kinda stop focusing on it so much and continually returning to the forums and exposing yourself to it. Literally, if you blocked a tag and didn’t visit these forums, you’d have minimal exposure to it. Stop looking for things to complain about. I’ve seen you come into these threads numerous times screeching about how much you hate both sides as if that’s going to make them stop.
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Calm it down.
 
Very little is “still going on”; we’re just looking at applying to the clarified Rule 0 to a few images at a time right now (very slow-going, we don’t want to mess it up) and essentially cleaning up the mess that was made.
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@Grave_Mind  
I’m afraid to say it only gets worse from here. The mob have been thrown a morsel for their efforts, and now they smell blood. Expect them back again.
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@Princess Luna  
I just noticed that Aryanne art is filtered by default but not ACAB art. This means people are forced to see it on the home page when they go to log in. Just saying, if you wanna stop random down voting and drama maybe hiding edgy shit coming from both sides instead of only one would help.
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Unless the filter just changed, that’s not true? Nazi and politics are filtered, but Aryanne isn’t. I can see Aryanne on the default filter, while every single ACAB picture is behind a spoiler or hidden.
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Tbh, this drama has gotten boring and worthless, as someone who came to this shitshow from the anti-Nazi side. Live and fucking let live. It stopped being concerns about Nazis vs concerns about censorship and is just a horn-measuring contest at this point, especially after the R0 change.
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@Pachi Pachi  
Let’s be honest, what has happened now is the staff keeps messing up once again making the wound reopen. I’d say at least 75% of this string of drama comes directly from the actions of derpi staff.
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This drama has solidified my prior gut feeling into words: quietly banning the “Hitler did nothing wrong” idiots and users who spam statistics proving why one race is better or worse than another is necessary to maintain a healthy community. As soon as you have pressure to make loud denouncements while you do the banning, assume bad faith.
 
It’s either some variant of “you’re not doing a good enough job of banning so put me in charge” power grab or it’s a “plz ban Nazis and X” where X is what they really want to be banned. On most other websites, X usually is TERFs. Here, X seems to be foalcon.
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