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Poll on hiding exploitable memes

Background Pony #7540
I vote to hide exploitable memes, even though I’m probably gonna remove the block at some point anyway it looks like it’d calm a lot of the community down and it won’t cause the outrage that banning them would.
Background Pony #A339
@The Smiling Pony
 
“ people that find as much enjoyment from these things as they do from “real art”.”
 
True, and that is nice and all, however, i think you should consider a distinction between memes and obligatory ponies and how is the site being used in this regard.
 
I know you said you don’t want to jam too many things, but this is too relevant since obligatory ponies and memes almost go hand in hand.
 
“Having standards for “artist content” is an incredibly tricky thing. One guy’s lazy exploitable meme is another’s hilarious joke that made his day a whole lot better.”
 
Again, that is nice, but is also important to consider the nature of the meme.  
See, is not just about standards.  
Most memes are obligatory ponies, which means that that hilarious joke is just an excuse to post non-MLP stuff on the site.  
Why would people want to post non-MLP stuff on this site?  
There could be a number of reasons, one of the main ones seems to be the community.  
Want to share this non-MLP thing with the community? just add some ponies.  
A great example of this is the tv meme.  
So, is this how you want the site to be used?  
See, other boorus also have memes, but they don’t seem to have this problem where memes about unrelated crap take entire pages and used as an alternate forum.
 
Again, memes aren’t necessarily the issue, it’s more about obligatory ponies. Yes, memes are popular and people like them for whatever reason, which is totally fine, but this becomes a problem when ponies stop being the focus of the meme and become more about cramming random unrelated crap, and it only gets worse because there is too many of them.  
You could argue that other boorus don’t have this problem because their communities aren’t as big as ours  
In that case, i think is important to clarify, what comes first in this site, the images or the community?
UTTFISH'S
Non-Fungible Trixie -
Silver Bit -
A Perfectly Normal Pony - Buttweys
The End wasn't The End - Found a new home after the great exodus of 2012

Un*belly*vable!
While hiding by default seems a bit harsh, there are other places to look for if one wants pwnee memes.  
But ain’t grabbing attention of those who might not have been actively looking for them the point of memes?
DanielTepesKraus
Greatest Poster in the Board -
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Twinkling Balloon - Took part in the 2021 community collab.
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Equality - Was more equal than the rest of the people during the event and did the only smart thing: wasn't there :^)
Stolen Condensed Milk - Stole a can of Condensed Milk from Glimmer's private stash while she wasn't looking

will return
I’m acclimated to say yes just because of a certain somepony’s little Chikun flood, but in all reality we really shouldn’t hide them by default. It’s not like porn or gore which are offensive, it’s just really really really REALLY annoying. People need to stop BAWWWWWWWWWWWWING about them and just filter the damned tags they don’t like.
 
Besides, not blocking them will either drive away unregistered users or encourage them to start accounts so they can filter them. That sounds like win-win to me.
 
^Disregard this, changed my mind. Hide them.
Grieffon
The Power of Love - Given to a publicly verified artist with an image under their artist’s tag that has reached 1000 upvotes
Equality - In our state, we do not stand out.
Friendship, Art, and Magic (2018) - Celebrated Derpibooru's six year anniversary with friends.
Birthday Cake - Celebrated MLP's 7th birthday
Not a Llama - Happy April Fools Day!
Magnificent Metadata Maniac - #1 Assistant
Bronze Bit -
Artist -
Happy Derpy! -
A Perfectly Normal Pony - <Grieffon> it does kinda dry out a bit with fast strokes

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@combine3  
Spoiler by default is to hide stuff that are considered disturbing to people, such as fluffy pony. The purpose of this, on the other hand, is to avoid memes cluttering dp. Because of that spoilering them is as good as doing nothing.
Heroine Addict
Non-Fungible Trixie -
Wallet After Summer Sale -

Pedantry Executive
I agree that having a tag for these things is a good idea. I’m less sure about hiding by default, since it feels a little drastic, but if the majority would rather hide than see these images, I guess it makes more sense to inconvenience the fewest people possible, and it’s not that big a deal for registered users who can control their filters.
Background Pony #A339
@combine3
 
The difference is that most memes  
-lack artistic merit  
-contain obligatory ponies  
-extremely repetitive  
-take entire pages because there is so many of them
shyflutter
Fine Arts - Two hundred uploads with a score of over a hundred (Safe/Suggestive)
Perfect Pony Plot Provider - Uploader of 10+ images with 350 upvotes or more (Questionable/Explicit)

Especially when someone’s not logged in or without an account. Then you have only 20 or 25 images per page and half of these are memes.
DanielTepesKraus
Greatest Poster in the Board -
GREEN - TALK TO ME
Elements of Harmony - Had an OC in the 2022 Community Collab
Twinkling Balloon - Took part in the 2021 community collab.
Friendship, Art, and Magic (2020) - Took part in the 2020 Community Collab
My Little Pony - 1992 Edition
Wallet After Summer Sale -
Friendship, Art, and Magic (2019) - Celebrated Derpibooru's seventh year anniversary with friends
Equality - Was more equal than the rest of the people during the event and did the only smart thing: wasn't there :^)
Stolen Condensed Milk - Stole a can of Condensed Milk from Glimmer's private stash while she wasn't looking

will return
@Grieffon  
Now that you mention it, it would put a stop to very obvious raid attempts like this whole stupid Chickun thing going on.
 
Couldn’t we just instead prohibit unregistered users from uploading pics? I’m actually really surprised this site allows that to begin with.
Sjogre
The End wasn't The End - Found a new home after the great exodus of 2012

Tag all the exploitables as such, but leave them visible. It isn’t hard to hid tags on this site, or failing that, just scroll past them.
 
I don’t care for meme floods myself, but I’ll admit that some of the them are still interesting. I’d rather that as much content as possible is visible by default.
 
The problem with memes is overuse, and that isn’t something that can be fixed on this side. Not unless someone tries to institute an upper limit on the about of images that a person can post, but that sounds like a terrible idea.
The Smiling Pony
Princess of Love - Extra special version for those who participated in the Canterlot Wedding 10th anniversary event by contributing art.
Tree of Harmony - Drew someone's OC for the 2022 Community Collab
Elements of Harmony - Had an OC in the 2022 Community Collab
Non-Fungible Trixie -
Thread Starter - Report site bugs here
A Really Hyper Artist - 500+ images under their artist tag
Kinship Through Differences - Celebrated the 11th anniversary of MLP:FIM!
Verified Pegasus - Show us your gorgeous wings!
Preenhub - We all know what you were up to this evening~
Philomena - For helping others attend the 2021 community collab

Somehow Omnipresent?
@Background Pony  
Obligatory Pony is another matter we’ll deal with after this.
 
@UTTFISH’S  
@DanielTepesKraus  
We want to set a comfortable default for new and unregistered users. The same reason we hide/spoiler grimdark, explicit whatever applies here: most people just don’t want to see it. Someone new to the site with the 15 image per page default gets here or does a search and gets 75% of the images being memes is a someone that will leave the site and not come back.
 
@combine3  
The problem with memes isn’t so much their content as much as that they’re very often spammed, or appear in huge blocks in searches and watchlists. Spoilering wouldn’t help with that.
TexasUberAlles
Duck - If report count was a score, he'd have the biggest score
Princess of Love - Extra special version for those who participated in the Canterlot Wedding 10th anniversary event by contributing art.
Tree of Harmony - Drew someone's OC for the 2022 Community Collab
Elements of Harmony - Had an OC in the 2022 Community Collab
Non-Fungible Trixie -
Kinship Through Differences - Celebrated the 11th anniversary of MLP:FIM!
Verified Pegasus - Show us your gorgeous wings!
Preenhub - We all know what you were up to this evening~
Philomena - For helping others attend the 2021 community collab
Twinkling Balloon - Took part in the 2021 community collab.

Any Anonymous Coward who posts more than two of the same meme in 24 hours should be auto-banned. No exceptions. Kill this crap at the most basic level possible.
 
I have no patience for all the “butbutbut that’s what filters are foorr-ooorrr!!!” whining. Ignoring worthless crap just encourages the cowards to spam the board with even more of it; how many pages full of one pathetic loser wanking one pathetic meme do you want users who aren’t signed in to have wade through?
Sjogre
The End wasn't The End - Found a new home after the great exodus of 2012

@Grieffon  
Being honest? I’d wonder what was going on, and would click through more pages in hope of an explanation. That’s hardly scary.
 
Hey, does anyone know when surges in new visitors occur? I’d assume that it’s around the start and end of a season or when there’s some kind of Pony event or toy show, when people want to see the images from it. In other words, when the place is being spammed by screenshots and photographs.
Grieffon
The Power of Love - Given to a publicly verified artist with an image under their artist’s tag that has reached 1000 upvotes
Equality - In our state, we do not stand out.
Friendship, Art, and Magic (2018) - Celebrated Derpibooru's six year anniversary with friends.
Birthday Cake - Celebrated MLP's 7th birthday
Not a Llama - Happy April Fools Day!
Magnificent Metadata Maniac - #1 Assistant
Bronze Bit -
Artist -
Happy Derpy! -
A Perfectly Normal Pony - <Grieffon> it does kinda dry out a bit with fast strokes

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@combine3  
Yes, the “hidden by default” will be applied to the tag “meme”.
 
This is important for new users not to leave. Anyone who doesn’t like it being hidden can always unfilter it.
 
@Sjogre  
Screencap is still better than seeing some stupid meme.
barbeque
Elements of Harmony - Had an OC in the 2022 Community Collab
Non-Fungible Trixie -
Twinkling Balloon - Took part in the 2021 community collab.
Friendship, Art, and Magic (2018) - Celebrated Derpibooru's six year anniversary with friends.
Magical Inkwell - Wrote MLP fanfiction consisting of at least around 1.5k words, and has a verified link to the platform of their choice
Magnificent Metadata Maniac - #1 Assistant
Thread Starter - Tag alias request thread
Artist -
Bronze Bit -
A Perfectly Normal Pony - <barbeque> I'm just going to break some javascript brb

Some quick searching reveals that:  
  • obligatory pony,-meme: 103 images (of which some are actually OP not tagging meme!). While the rest is still mostly crap, 100 pics over all time does not spam a frontpage.  
  • obligatory pony,meme: 1100-something images. This query is filled with pretty much nothing but the exploitable memes the poll is about, and note that these are not all by a long shot, as there are almost 4000 tv memes alone (preceded tag implications n stuff).
     
    @shyflutter @Grieffon  
    Actually, you’d only see 15 pics. Even less!
     
    @combine3  
    May I welcome you to my 450 hidden tags, of which I estimate 50-75% is the crap this poll wants to put under a single new tag?
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