Poll on hiding exploitable memes

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I think it’s a foregone conclusion that these are gonna get hidden. We’re enacting policies now because of an overreaction by a mod, throwing a fit because he couldn’t find any Cadance pics. What a great sign for the future of this board.
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It especially gets bad whenever a comic is released. Next month will almost assuredly create more.
 
 
Have to say this is what bothers me too. I have an idw tag spoilered because I’ve been behind on the comics but I hate how a lot of it seems to get through as memes or dumb captions anyway.
 
In any case what I said in the extra section of the poll
 
I actually kind of get a chuckle out of TV memes, but I do think something should be done with the somewhat uncreative memes that have popped up as of late like “laughing cadance” “and shouting SA”.
 
I think as long as there’s a tag for that particular meme for us to filter out, things should be okay. I’m AGAINST hiding by default because someone might come up with something funny and it could be missed.
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@dt  
People have been bitching about this for months now and I started a poll to see if the bitching actually had merit. If it fails, it fails.
 
Also “an overreaction by a mod” is the reason we created derpibooru in the first place.
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People have been bitching about specific memes for months, not exploitable memes in general for months. And the exploitable memes have been around for years, not months. Many of the Batman/Applejack slapping Robin/Rainbow Dash ones, Conspiracy Lyra, Human Studies 101 With Lyra, Painfully Innocent Fluttershy, Stand-Up Cheerilee, etc. have gotten exceedingly high user ratings. Two Words, Screaming Armor, and Chickun have gotten uniformly low ratings, and are basically the entire reason for the complaints. Laughing Cadance has been pretty neutral, with both high and low ratings. Nature is So Fascinating and Television have been all over the scoreboard depending on how disgusting the “fascinating” image of nature is. The complaints have been around for months, not years like the exploitable memes, specifically because the specific stupid memes that are the entirety of the problem have been in existence only for months. Deal with the ones that have been a problem, not the ones that haven’t.
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Comics using random vectors would not be affected… because they’re not memes. Chikun and a whole lot of waifu theif and twiface would be as it’s just slapping a face onto another image and very little else. And actual new image that uses the twiface (or whatever) expression would not be affected.
 
So  
››426058  
is okay, but  
››408722  
is not?
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So should we have a poll for every new meme?
 
The problem we have now is we don’t have the code support for better filtering. If we did, I’d scrap the poll and the whole topic. But unregistered (including new to site) users can’t filter, and filtering something is in itself a pita.
 
 
@BinaryPony  
“okay” in the sense that the first would not be hidden while the later would be.
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IMHO >>449288 is also an “exploitable edit” despite the fact that 1. only one was made and 2. it is relatively funny.  
  1. It was made with the same method, text/image edit on a picture and as for 2. the only difference is some are rated high and some are rated low.
     
    Is the filtering software capable of stuff like: hide everything that is tagged “meme”/etc. AND has a negative rating?  
    I think if we are going to go by what are annoying spam and what are not despite being made the same way, then the only reference that allows us to differentiate is the user rating.
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So I went to sleep, then went to work, and this is still a thing that happened.
 
I still can’t believe it. Some guy came in here, looked for Cadance pics, found a bunch of stuff he didn’t like, then demanded a change in the forums and insulted all the people who disagreed with him. Except it’s not just some guy; it’s The Smiling Pony. The same guy who stood up to tumblr and refused to disallow rape and foalcon pics even though he hates them. The same guy who mocks this sort of behavior in his tumblr. What the fuck happened? (insert Batman quote)
 
“Focus on art?” Who the fuck do you think you are to tell us what art is? Because something takes no effort it’s not art? Then how about pony creator? Motivators? Worksafe edits of explicit content? I’m pretty sure airbrushing a pixel-thin line doesn’t take much skill or effort either.
 
I’m not even mad at the policy change. I already have most of them blocked. I’m mad that this gives credibility to any idiot who sees a bunch of stuff he doesn’t like and demand them to be hidden or banned outright. And I’m deeply saddened that this is how our mods actually are.
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I’m pretty sure discussing this / having a poll isn’t really going to produce anything we don’t already know. 99% of discussions on derpibooru are massive circlejerks anyway.
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@dt  
Who the fuck do you think you are to tell us what art is?
 
Search [artist:dt]  
Results: We couldn’t find any images for you. None at all.
 
Man, I always love it when uncreative people try to talk about “what art is”.
 
If you have to have it explained to you why cutpasting a thing on top of another thing and spamming the board with hundreds of shitty iterations of it should be cleansed with fire, The Smiling Pony isn’t the one who has the problem.
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@dt  
Damn, what crawled up your ass and died?
 
OR TO PUT SOME WORDS INTO IT
 
I floated the idea on the forum for, I dunno, ten days or something. Almost everyone agreed it was a thing we should do.
 
So now we’re holding an actual poll for the userbase as a whole to decide if it’s actually a thing we should do.
 
I’m sorry if our method of discussing policy changes publicly, then putting forth the proposal to a vote open to all users upsets you so much. I guess in the future we could just never do anything at all when we encounter what we believe to be an issue.
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@dt  
I still can’t believe it. Some guy came in here, looked for Cadance pics, found a bunch of stuff he didn’t like, then demanded a change in the forums and insulted all the people who disagreed with him. Except it’s not just some guy; it’s The Smiling Pony. The same guy who stood up to tumblr and refused to disallow rape and foalcon pics even though he hates them. The same guy who mocks this sort of behavior in his tumblr. What the fuck happened? (insert Batman quote)
“Focus on art?” Who the fuck do you think you are to tell us what art is? Because something takes no effort it’s not art? Then how about pony creator? Motivators? Worksafe edits of explicit content? I’m pretty sure airbrushing a pixel-thin line doesn’t take much skill or effort either.
 
How ignorant can you get? This is something not just the mods not liking the memes, it’s many users. God forbid mods having opinion and see if users agree. And this is not the first time we do it. Human nudity has been brought up, which I believe the mods have nothing against, but because users want them spoilered, a poll was held and the result was that the majority of the users want them spoilered. You said it yourself: TSP refused to ban rape and foalcon even though he hates them. And I know there are many other types of content that he hates, yet he hasn’t disallowed any. Why would he do it now, for his own interest? Plus, he’s a mod. Hidden or not, he has to see them anyway. Mods have no benefit from this.
 
And don’t change the subject. If you think it’s unjust that memes get hidden and other crappy edit doesn’t, by all means start a thread about it. We will deal with that after we are done with this.
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@Grieffon  
Oh yes, that. The results of this don’t actually affect me in any way; my searches for more dear Cadance images will still contain all those meme images because, hey, I can’t hide anything =p
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