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Actually, it’s more about traditional areas of oppression, like race and ethnicity for example. That’s why I said if the “cops” language had been replaced with “white people,” it should still be a violation of Rule 0.
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I can’t go into a Lowe’s hardware store, stand on a the service counter, and start spouting racist invective. Well, I could, but I’d be kicked out of the store and likely suffer additional consequences.
 
But what if I went to Lowe’s wearing a shirt emblazoned with a swastika? Or had a swastika tatoo. What if the tattoo was covered up?
 
There is always a line for censorship, fuzzy though it may be. Where to draw it?
 
No nazis, no swastikas, no racism, no bigotry. I’m sick of Nazi nonsense in my fandom. I can’t stop it from being made, but it can find a different place to live.
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Third poll results now up. This was primarily dealing with the “propaganda” side of things and heavily involved porn of Aryanne and Nazi imagery. Obviously, Nazi salutes in and of themselves aren’t a problem, but a flag all over the image might be; this may be difficult to turn into consistent wording, but we will try now. And remember, talk about the policy, not each other’s political opinions.
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You literally just vote based on what art you like more there. Why is that one pornpic so much higher rated for deletion then the others? Theres 0 objective reason for that, beyond that it might be subjectively diliked artwise.  
Also why dont the userbase get a say in this? Mods asking each other what rules they should force onto the userbase is not working with the userbase, its you pretending to have a “discussion”
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You literally just vote based on what art you like more there. Why is that one pornpic so much higher rated for deletion then the others? Theres 0 objective reason for that, beyond that it might be subjectively diliked artwise.
Also why dont the userbase get a say in this? Mods asking each other what rules they should force onto the userbase is not working with the userbase, its you pretending to have a “discussion”
 
This thread is where the userbase has a say in this. Obviously, mods are reading it and responding. I think we have already thoroughly discussed the fact that it would be nuts for them to let random people on the internet vote on this stuff, they’d have no way to filter good intentioned people from bad actors and trolls.
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@FrecklesFanatic  
Subjective biases affecting this is a major concern of mine, which is a big part of why we aren’t just going to immediately go and delete the images and write up something vague. Community criticism helps us figure out where we’ve gone wrong in all this.  
Ultimately, it’s my suspicion that the 1st poll is going to be the most useful thing for what to do, and these other 2 polls are more “maybe we should rethink parts of this”.
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kay, so why is the futa pic so much higher rated for deletion then Dates? Theres 0 onjective difference between their “nazi content”  
Both is just Aryanne showing off her ass with a Swastika. But one has a dick I gues, and the mods more dislike futa?  
Its just them rating thesebased on personal porn/art preference
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Seems like this round was a lot more divided than last
 
Of the Rule 0 pics:
 
  1. Ehhhh, big maybe
     
  2. Strikes me way more as Nazi fetishism than propaganda. Just look at the absurd amount of swaztikas and the swaztika nipple pasties. Shes not meant to be portrayed as good, more ctuel and domineering, which is the fetish.
     
  3. See Number 4 of my list
     
  4. DEFINITELY not propaganda. Its not telling you to do anything or implying you should think anything. As proof, if you remove the flag, it ceases to feel anywhere near like it
     
  5. A joke bordering on propaganda, I can see why staff voted this way, its the closest it comes to actual propaganda
     
  6. That’s the cover for some dude’s fanfic about ponies in a nazi-type government becoming disillusioned by the regime, innit? Its the kind of propaganda they see every day
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I might agree with Archonix  
The 3rd one in the rule 0 section and the 7th and 11th ones in the not rule 0 seem pretty similar enough to be inconsistent
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Freckles has a good synopsis, there is no uniformity in what is and isn’t “ok” with swastika imagery, Sometimes dressing up in iconography of the reich and doing the hiel hitler is fine, sometimes it isn’t. Basically it seems like the only differentiating factor is “how good does her ass look” or “how popular is the art style”
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@FrecklesFanatic  
It’s more to do with the really weirdly unfitting flag to the side; I actually didn’t realize the image was futa until you pointed that out, as I’ve not been focusing on that area of these images myself.
 
@Datte-Before-Dawn  
This is a pretty fair criticism of things. This round was a bit weird in that it’s somewhat reassuring that we aren’t going to delete huge swaths of things, but at the same time, I think we need to rethink “propaganda” wording.
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Going to echo the others and say it looks more like you rated it on personal preference rather than objective criteria.
 
Arguably, that’s the best to judge whether something is propaganda since it’s such an inherently subjective subject.  
Still absolutely hilarious this one can be summed up as “Here’s how the mods rated some porn.”
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Are you joking? the other one has the same ammount of swastika, even more prominent so. Or look at @Background Pony #B2FF  
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This is a joke, right?
 
So you are telling me I can draw Aryanne Hailing, or getting fucked next to a bust of Hitler, but if my work is gonna stay up or not will depend entirely on if the Mods deem the art compisition good/bad/too naziish?  
This isnt rules, this is a Beauty paegent. How is this not ripe for all kinds of abuse? Make friends with the mods and your art is more likely to be voted on beeing allowed?
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