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Down with Molestia

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For context I’m linking the comic strip in question: Link
 
Some people took offense to this comic. Of those some might have been triggered (I still don’t fully comprehend this concept of triggering, I guess is should find a proper explanation, which include how sever those “trigger events” are and some good arguments on weather it’s society’s duty to shield people from them), but other just protested out of principle.
 
A huge internet drama that makes DWM looks like a mild tea time conversation started, and Gabe got himself involved both via follow up comic and twitter.
 
This all happened in 2010, almost three years ago to this day, so you’d think that things settled down by now. You would be wrong.  
In a “brutal honesty” panel in PAX several days ago gabe made a single statement that sparked the whole thing again. This is his version to what happened.  
And now some people talk about boycotting PAX.
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@ender1200  
If you take that much offense from rape jokes, you shouldn’t be a PA reader. And if you’re not a PA reader and taking offense, then you’re looking to be offended. That comic’s always been absurdly “politically incorrect”.
 
Sigh.
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@ender1200  
why am I getting the feeling that DWM will play like this. It will go unmentioned for awhile then when someone inadvertently makes a comment that sparks ire. It will come back Sigma style over and over again.
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@nintendogeek7065  
The person who started this movement abandoned it and has completely lost any sort of credence since they didn’t do it just because they didn’t like rape jokes. They did it because they hated G4 fans and wanted them out of “their” fandom at any cost.
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It also doesn’t help that a sizeable amount of the people who were arguing the loudest in support of it were doing so because “JJ sucks” or “Molestia isn’t funny anymore” rather than anything to do with “rape jokes are bad for society” even though the concepts tended to be the exact opposite in application.
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@TenchiFreak5  
Anytime anyone gives any support to this movement in the future, people are going to post the Tumblr post where its creator talks about how much they hate G4 fans. Or how they use ad hominem. Or how they used Celestia as a mouthpiece against welfare when they said they hate working and want to be a trophy wife.
 
The movement went from advocacy against rape jokes to personal grudges against JJ and your standard attempt to purge R34 and ostracize its artists. But for the creator, it was always a smear campaign against the people they REALLY hated: new MLP fans.
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@cb5  
For the same reason that some bronies that think that the show took a nose dive after season 2 hate the bronies that like season 3. Fans hate change, and gen 4 was an enormous change to the franchise. We are a big fandom and we are not really a part of the old fandom. Some Old Gen fans see us as competitors and a threat.
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@cb5  
They think we hate and endlessly mock early gens when we really don’t care. Personally, I find most earlier cartoons just dull. Not terrible, just generically 80’s/early 90’s kid’s cartoon fare.
 
But the real reason they hate us is how we quickly replaced them as the preferred peripheral demographic. They HATE how we prefer show accuracy and molded hair. They blame us for a decline in quality of toys. Like MLP toys were ever top notch with their one point of articulation they had for almost thirty years.
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@ender1200  
A lot like the toys more, and they think the toys used to be better. The toys were and are still incredibly cheap.
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Is it no different of male gamers/comic book fans feeling their “haven” being invaded by the rising percentage of the female demographic?
 
Is it similar to how old Star Trek fans feel about the crowds who are into the “Next Generation”.
 
All of it seems very petty. The creators of any media while do appreciate loyal fans, the fan do NOT own the creator or franchise when the company wishes to broaden its appeal and expand the audience. True, loyal fans could voice their discontent about the direction, respectfully appeal about any changes, or drop the series altogether in which sales could have an effect. But bitching and moaning that the newbs, the chicks or the Bronies messed up your enjoyment, just feels selfish and ludicrous.
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@Background Pony  
Oh Celestia the “blame us for the quality of the toys diminishing”. Honestly the toys feel the same as previous gens: Brushable mane and tail, head turn, random accessory. If anyone is to blame for “quality”, they need to turn to Hasbro. The Transformers fans have been complaining that some of the figures from the current lines feel cheap and are not as good as those of the early to mid 2000s. There’s also the upcoming redesign of the main line which looks like upscaled legion figures (the smallest figures to purchase). If anything, having stuff that doesn’t look like a horse is a good thing. It separates itself from the knock-offs that Wal-Mart tries to push or the lines based around actual horses.
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@IrieMangaStudios  
>Is it similar to how old Star Trek fans feel about the crowds who are into the “Next Generation”.
 
Honestly, I feel the same way for video games. I DO NOT like the changes to the industry. VGs feel alien to me now. And I think my hatred towards the “next Gen” VGs are justified. Everyone has their preferences…
 
Fuck you Xbox Fanboys!
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@SeraphimDawn  
This is why older gen fans dislike us. They hate that we don’t care about toys.
 
@Background Pony  
It’s actually because toys have so much competition and have stopped being a treat. Especially for Transformers and their demographic.
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@SeraphimDawn  
Dat videogame statement, This so much This.
 
But back to the real matter, yes It’s really a shame people have too feel that way towards one another, Really It doesn’t matter weather your a boy or a girl I mean we all have flesh bones and skin and blood do we? why do we have to fight over masculinity or sexuality or even personality, I’ve always said to myself that I hate being called things like “dominant” it isn’t true at all, just look for yourself.
 
You see this guy,  
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(That’s not me by the way I wish it was, but it’s not :,()
 
Well You see this lady,  
full  
Yeeeeaaah, Don’t tell me she cant totally kick that guy’s ass. :/
 
Y’all see what I’m getting at? I’m saying Gender doesn’t matter we are all nothing but fucking human and that’s all we are!
 
We walk, eat, shit, sleep, age, And then we fucking die living a human life.
 
So I watch a show for little girls, a Female can Lift 1,000 pound weights, a male can go get his nail’s polished, a female can go to a boxing ring and watch football, it doesn’t matter!
 
You here me!? it doesn’t matter, it doesn’t matter, IT DOESNT FUCKING MATTER!!!!!  
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@Background Pony  
Traditional toys have fallen in favour to VGs and the internet. Most kids only buy toys for their collectiblity. Kids as young as 3 are surfing the net and playing video games when they shouldn’t be.
 
 
@IrieMangaStudios  
It’s also quite easy to blame the demographic for the deterioration of video gaming, mind you there are many ignorant next gen fanboys out there who don’t know what true gaming is, however you can’t really blame them for not growing up in those heydays of gaming.
 
It is really actually the corporations who IMPOSE those changes and they have a way of MAKING people “like” the changes, whether the people genuinely like it or not. How? Simple, by discontinuing support and production of the things people were content with, making them have no choice but to move on with changes. They call it Progress.
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I don’t like to derail the thread into a discussion about the video game industry, but you people should check the indie side of video games.  
When the big companies only focus on a very narrow range of genres the smaller companies and indie developers picked up the slack. The best part is that now many times, the chipper games that goes on the 10~20$ range are better than the 60$ AAA titles.
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