Down with Molestia

@MonkeyDzyrax
 
That’s…creepy.

@Princess♠Molestia  
I don’t see Naruto or One Piece fans sending death threats to Kishi or Oda for a bad arc or saga. MLP fans take things way too seriously

@MonkeyDzyrax
 
There’s always the nutters in every group.

@MonkeyDzyrax  
To be fair, if more people knows Japanese it would probably happen.

I bet almost all people who work on a big franchise and are popular enough, get hate mail. Including Movie stars, Directors, Writers and Politicians, Layers and Bankers of course too…  
Being popular you have to deal with all sort off stuff you would never think off. Because there are a-holes who take everything to seriously.
 
And pinkiepony just had the honor to make herself popular enough with a very sticky controversial subject.

This has all been very illuminating. I realize that I was right to hate fandoms.

@Whatevs  
I heard about some white people who were racist. I realise I was right to hate white people.
 
I heard about some Americans who protested military funerals shouting about how god hates fags. I realise I was right to hate Americans.
 
I heard about some forum posters who generalised the actions of a few crazy individuals to an entire diverse group and were generally shunned by all the other forum posters for being dicks. I realise that I was right to hate forum posters.

@Background Pony
 
Your logic is so flawed it just made my headache worse.

@SocDev  
No, you don’t get to say that without explaining why logic is flawed. You can’t just go “hey, your logic is flawed” and then run off. If you’re going to make an assertion, back it up.
 
The general point made was that it is unfair to generalise the actions of a small subset of a group (who are generally held to be fucking lunatics by the larger whole of the group) to describe that group as a whole. Like, for instance, generalising “some racist white people” to “all white people are racist”. THAT is a textbook example of flawed logic - hasty generalisation.

@Background Pony
 
Funny that you should use that particular example as your poster crime - being as it’s one of the more socially acceptable stereotypes.

@Background Pony
 
I honestly hate it when people do that. With a fiery passion.
 
And no before anyone says something, I don’t hate the people who were involved in the DWM movement, never did. The only thing I hate were their behaviors. And just the movement as an entity.

@Background Pony
 
I dont NEED to make an assertion, nor i was running away. I am not here, waiting for you to make a reply, which is quite rude i must say, nor we are debating. I dont owe you anything at all.

@Kazapsky  
Just because a particular example of a reasoning fallacy is widely accepted doesn’t make it any less of a fallacy. Also involves the fallacy of incomplete evidence and confirmation bias - for this kind of thing it is common for people to focus on specific negatives and ignore the body of contradicting evidence. For instance, if a person initially meets a small number of white people who are racist, and hastily generalises that all white people are racist, then in future interactions with white people they will exhibit a confirmation bias because they already have a conclusion about white people and they will tend to remember and focus on evidence that supports their pre-existing conclusion while ignoring the rest, forming their conclusion based on cherrypicking data and incomplete evidence.
 
It works with fandoms, too. You hear about some people who are fans of a thing doing awful stuff (because let’s face it, you’re much more likely to hear about people being awful than you are about people being good because of reporting bias), you generalise that a fandom is terrible, and from then on whenever you see evidence that a fan is not a raving lunatic you ignore it and whenever you see one that is you go “see! I told you, they’re all assholes!”

@SocDev  
You also don’t need to reply to me, but you chose to respond to something I said and I was attempting to engage you in a discussion in return. If you don’t want to participate then you don’t have to, but that doesn’t make your comments immune to criticism. If you’re not willing to justify why you think my statements were flawed, then I am entitled to criticise you for it.

@Background Pony
 
Your statement is a redundancy. Even if i justify my way of thinking, i am entitled to your criticism, as your comment is also entitled to my criticism.
 
Neither you have to reply to me. Its just a matter of who wants to have the last word.

@SocDev  
Now you’re just being nonsensical. The difference here is that I actively want you to actually engage in this conversation and explain yourself. You’re the one who wants to have the last word. I would much rather be explaining why your reasoning is wrong than trying to wrangle your reasoning out of you, but I can’t do the one until I manage the other.

@Background Pony
 
Being nonsensical is my game, i am afraid. And i dont want to engage in a debate, nor i need to explain myself. Need.

@SocDev  
No, you don’t have an imperative to explain yourself, but if you want to be taken seriously, then you need to. Of course, if you’re going to respond to criticism of your arguments with “I don’t need to make sense” then it is hard to conclude you want to be taken seriously. I do find myself curious if your desire to have the last word is stronger than your stated disinclination to engage in debate, though.

@MonkeyDzyrax  

 
Give any person access to a computer and social media and you will prone to get idiots who bump their gums and say all types of stupid things on the internet. I’ve seen happen with homestuck and I’ve seen it sports teams and their fans too. But I digress,no one from here who has posted in this thread at least has the intention of harassing her

@Background Pony
 
What can i say? I love having the last word.
 
Tho i think i am derailing this thread. Moving on!

Looks like ya’ll are having fun.
 

@MonkeyDzyrax
 
I think you are taking about this from a western fan point of view.
 
Because death threats did/do happen in the Japanese fandom.
 
Hideaki Anno,creator of Evangelion got death threats back in the day.
 
Heck,you are even mentioning Eichiro Oda not having any when he did receive death threats a few years ago.
 
Every fandom has their crazies.

@Background Pony  
To be fair, many fandoms do resort to threats. MGS, Dragon Age etc
 
And to clarify I dont actually hate individual members of a fandom, nor do I hate fandoms as a thing.  
However there is such a thing as mobbing. And fandoms are bastions of mobbing.  
Whenever people of a like mind get together their opinions (especially negative ones) become more extreme.
 
That is what I hate.

Oh god, she’s actually talking about reviving the DWM movement on her blog.

@soundtea
 
Short on ideas to whore for attention, it seems.