Season 9 Discussion Thread [NO SPOILERS, DF airings only]

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I didn't think she was a bitch at all. Given what a complete ass Garble was, getting called out by Fluttershy like she's someone's mom was immensely satisfying.

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Can someone PLEASE explain it to me why everyone thinks soo low of the "Common Ground"? It really keeps me up at night.

Because it's just not that good.

Yes, the part where Wind Sprint and Clear Sky have a talk, and the part where Wind Sprint and Quibble finally start bonding are both excellent scenes.

Yes, the show deserves credit for touching on a heavy topic like a parent remarrying.

Yes, this is clearly something personal to Patton and his daughter, and that adds something to it.

But everything else just isn't that interesting. Quibble is incompetent to the point where it detracts from the weight of the episode, and the episode gets repetitive quickly.

So by the time we get to those excellent scenes, they feel like a crutch propping up and otherwise unremarkable episode, rather than the culmination of a great episode. Believe me, I want to be right there next to you calling this a great episode that does an amazing job with a difficult topic. But I just don't think it gets there.
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Problem is that an assertive person wouldn't resort to yelling or getting phisical. They'd keep thier cool and talk firmly to Garble. Once Flutters gets to yelling is where the "flutterbitch" comes out.


The only thing I could complain about in that episode would be the bad acting skills of the people who weren't even voice actors. Besides that, I couldn't find it boring at all. All jokes were top notch, as I belive that Patton has helped writting them. We finally had some "Slapstic comedy done right" during the episode and it only got slightly cringy during the buckball match part, but it never went to be as cringy as the "New Yona" in She's all Yak.
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The Beginning Of The End:8.8
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>>2048607t

Time to rehash something i wrote for the episode:

"So, Garble is a poet now? how did that happen?"

"It was about four years ago — His warband was in a battle with a warband from the dragon clan over by that hill and he got his head run through by a spear. that was some serious shit — they already had a funeral pyre ready for him….

"But aren't we fireproof?"

"We can burn once we die. anyway, our healer was working day and night trying to help him. He survived, but he hasn't been the same ever since. He couldn't fight as well as before, then he figured out that he wanted to become a ozan. He'd go out and meet the elders to learn the old songs, but he was already down with the warband, and as long he hadn't lost a limb or two, or died, he couldn't back out anymore without being branded a coward, and his buddies thought that it wasn't becoming for a warrior to be a ozan, so that's how we got here."
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Raising your voice once does not a bitch make, and she never gets physical.

Slapstick is more about the well-timed impact. Fall Weather Friends or Looney Tunes are example of slapstick. Common Ground was more about cringe comedy. Comedy is subjective, so you might just have to agree to disagree on the entertainment value of Common Ground.
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I read this shit?
Thought he episode was good, better than I thought I'd like it given that it was going to be Spike and Smolder episode(nothing against them really), I was clueless about the Garble thing since I'd long since filtered the relevant tags, to my mind he hasn't been redeemed just chilled out a little. Assertive Fluttershy was a welcome return for me, I felt she was regressing into a bit of a scaredy cat at times during s8.

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2. The Beginning of the End
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4. Sparkle’s Seven
5. Sweet & Smoky
6. The Point of No Return
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The best part about Sweet and Smokey was the moment Fluttershy asked if the eggs are Ember's and she blushed madly about it :D

About the eggs, if they only needed heat to hatch, what does this say about Twilight hatching Spike? Did she actually just cast a heat spell on the egg? Or did she hatch him by another means with her insane magic levels?
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oh FUCK SHE POKED HIM AND BOOPED HIM!!1!!!1 FUCKING SHIT LIKE THIS CAN'T STAND, BURN HASBRO TO THE GROUND FOR MAKING HER SUCH AN EVIL BITCH!
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I guess that's technically getting physical, but it's a pretty weak example. Also, raising your voice multiple times during a confrontation still does not a bitch make.
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The reaction of what a normal sane human would be if they found out that their sibling also almost killed a little animal for fun. :P
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Flutterbitch is the mean version of fluttershy Like in season1 where discord turend al The pony's into mean pony's. the Mean version of fluttershy Is calles flutterbitch
the "official" definition on Urbandictionary

That's just how it's called. It's still being mean. Assertive person wouldn't yell at someone or get up thier face.
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I’d like to point out that Fluttershy nearly did go off, but stopped herself and continued at a reasonable tone. She’s not only learned how to assert herself, but how to do it without going to far.
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That's inconsistent writting. She goes half of the line yelling at someone and then stops for no reason whatsoever. If it was made on purpouse, writters would surely let us know by having someone commenting on that. (you know, like every other time that fluttershy acts "assertive")
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I'm pretty sure that's called "realizing what you're saying and dialing it back". It's an actual human trait and Rainbow Dash has done that a few times in the episode "Hurricane Fluttershy".
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Anyways, I rewatched "Frenemies". I still think Chrysalis and her hive are more interesting without each other. Say what you will about the new changelings, but at least stuff happens with them now. Meanwhile, Chrysalis is much more entertaining now that she has to get creative with her powers, instead of sending an army to do her bidding.

In my unbridled praise in the form of a rant, I forgot to mention an important detail about the climax. Tirek is put in a position where he could leave Chrysalis starving and powerless, and Cozy Glow trapped forever. If you think back to what Chrysalis and Cozy did in their respective finales, that would've been poetic justice. But instead of repeating his betrayal of Discord, he keeps his promise. It's a nice reincorporation for all of them.
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Lol I thought you meant an earlier scene, she’s not even yelling at Garble, just raising her voice some. It’s also consistent throughout the scene.

Oh, and the behavior being discussed is so common there’s an entire episode about it.
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