Season 9 Discussion Thread [NO SPOILERS, DF airings only]

AWGear
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The Devil's Advocate
@cheezedoodle  
I really wish that someone from the writting staff would just come up and openly say “Yes, we messed up Apple Family timeline”. People who can own up to thier mistakes are much more respectable than those, who just keep commit them and treat like its not an issue.
 
They could also release a book called “Apple Family Album” in which we would have the full “cannon” timeline explained. That could be a nice thing to see.
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@AWGear
 
I love the idea of an Apple Family Album. Could include some nice screencap-quality pics of the Apple siblings interacting with their parents.
AWGear
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The Devil's Advocate
@Spinny  
Or generally, more art of Pear Butter and Bright Mac.
 
To be honest, I do think that at this point they are huge wasted potential that could have been used to make at least one of 2 more Great episodes. Basicly, anything that would change Pear Butter’s status as “marry sue” and something that would make Bright Mac slightly more than a “copy” of his son.
 
I’d love to see an actual episode about thier “death” and maybe (if they would decide to go for this plot twist) thier actual comeback (ethier as ghosts, or maybe a living ponies).
 
The “explanation” (if you can even call it like this) of them being dead makes no sense with the context we have been presented with in the show. I still do belive the idea of them being MIA, because we weren’t even presented with a possible cause of death.
 
They should have been used more in seasons 8 and 9.
rdibp
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@AWGear  
Personally, I think The Perfect Pear is enough for the Apple parents. It’s a great episode on it’s own, it doesn’t really need any more follow up.
LeoNero
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A reminder that the apple parents appearance in “Going To Seed” didn’t make the episode any better or worse.
AC97
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@cheezedoodle
 
The timeline really isn’t quite flawless. Like, since Star Swirl was around when Scorpan was relevant, does that mean they beat Tirek without the Elements the first time, same with Sombra? It was widely presumed the order was something like “Discord, then Sombra, then Tirek, then Celestia banished Nightmare Moon,” or something like that, but obviously that order stopped working.
 
Though to be fair, they never said in the show the two of them beat Sombra or Tirek with the Elements, did they? Question one might have is, Tirek may or may not have seen Discord before, and seemed to know he got imprisoned, so was Discord goofing around quite a while before he decided Equestria was worth his time and effort?
 
As for the whole debate on Where the Apple Lies, do some people have a mental block on “whether X character exists if they weren’t shown onscreen” or something?
 
Sorry for the rambling…
AWGear
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The Devil's Advocate
@rdibp  
It was an increadibly re-watchable episode, don’t get me wrong. What I have problems with is the characterization of Apple Parents.
 
Pear Butter has basically no negative character traits, making her into a marry sue. She is the only mother (Mrs. Shy - Lack of assertivness; Windy Whistles - doesn’t understand when her actions become hurtfull to her daugther; Twilight Velvet - carelessnes; Stellar Flare - trying to plan her son’s life for him; Cloudy Quartz - too attached to “tradition”) to be shown with only positive personality. The only thing you could say is that she is naive, but even that would be a strech. Granted, it doesn’t stop her from being awesome character, but due to being one dimensional, it makes her personality really shallow as she is nothing more than a “lover for Bright Mac”.
 
Bright Mac is generally a meh copy of Big Mac. Due to Pear Butt-er- stealing all the spotlight, he doesn’t have his chance to shine. Again, his character isn’t much more than “a lover to Pear Butter”.
 
Hasbro did a great thing. They made a pair of rather simple characters and made fans (including me) love them. What they should do now, is at least one more episode where they build up on the characters, turing them into more “realistic” pony beings.
 
We had great one-episode parent introductions (Mrs. Shy, Windy Whistles and Stellar Flare) which established characters perfectly, so no follow up was needed. (Altough I’d love to see an episode where Sunburst and Starlight’s parents do as they promised and visit ponyvile and/or crystal empire)
 
We also had “Less-perfect” character introduction in form of Twilight Velvet, Cloudy Quartz and Cookie Crumbles (Why didn’t she get an episode yet?), with 2 of them (mainly Twilight Velvet) gaining alot from having her appearance in “Once upon a Zepplin”, which has made her much more interesting.
 
I belive that Apple Parents could also benefit from having one more episode about them.
Mr.Myoozik
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@rdibp  
It was, and it’s one of those tough acts to follow episode where no matter what they would do, it would never replicate the heart and emotion of The Perfect Pear.
AWGear
Solar Supporter - Fought against the New Lunar Republic rebellion on the side of the Solar Deity (April Fools 2023).
Roseluck - Had their OC in the 2023 Derpibooru Collab.
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The Devil's Advocate
@ILoveMyoozik  
Does it really have to, tough?
 
If you get in the mind-set that something new you make won’t be as good as your previous achivement, you won’t get far.
 
Don’t take it the wrong way, but I belive that with ammout of positivity and love for those characters that fandom shows, I think that anything with them would be welcomed with open arms.
 
Hell, people went crazy over the “Pear Butter screen transision” in the Going to Seed, and I think that we both can admit that “screen transision” is the bare minimum you can do with a character (besides being a background pony).
 
I’m pretty sure that whatever Hasbro does with them, we will love. Even if it’s because we will be biased (after the fantastic emotional ride that was “Perfect Pear”), we will still love whatever appearance they will get.
AWGear
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Roseluck - Had their OC in the 2023 Derpibooru Collab.
A Lovely Nightmare Night - Celebrated the 12th anniversary of MLP:FIM!
Elements of Harmony - Had an OC in the 2022 Community Collab
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The Devil's Advocate
@ILoveMyoozik  
To be brutally honest, I think that the “yay” from seing them once again before the end of the show would beat the “neigh” from the episode not being “as good” as “The Perfect Pear”, but that’s just my toughts.
Mr.Myoozik
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Music Connoisseur
@AWGear  
I really hope that would be the case cause if people would start complaining that they didn’t do anything spectacular or grand with them like the first time around, then it’ll be too soon
Mr.Myoozik
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Music Connoisseur
@AWGear  
Those who expect her to be a lot more but whatever. Her appearance in Going To Seed was enough for me and it’d be cool if she showed up again.
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Personally, I would love Marble Pie to get some strong character development before this show’s over. They’ve only got half a season left and maybe a few specials, so I’m uncertain if she will even make an appearance in Season 9.
rdibp
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Kerfuffle lover
What if Applejack’s parents passed away very recently?
 
Like, a short while before Twilight came to Ponyville?
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