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I miss the show so much
A Cadence + Sharmor episode? We can always dream. Unlikely to happen unless FiM runs for ten seasons and they start to run out of ideas.
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When i heard about it at first i thought “meh let’s wait and see.”  
When i saw the episode (which is BTW still my favorite Season finale) i was mostly pleased. When i heard about Twilights and Shinings back story during the Song i was very moved (inb4 you pussy) and i instantly accepted him.  
Cadence is okay but i don’t have the same reaction about her and Twilight as i had with Twi and Shining.  
Overall i have no problems with them being in the Show.
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At first I was like “she’s ok.”
 
Now I’m like “she’s ok.”
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On paper, Cadence is still flat and uninteresting.  
She doesn’t fit into the established mythology of the celestial objects represented by Celestia and Luna and she lacks any other personality other than “being nice and loving”.
 
But in praxis, she is technically the best princess. She kicks Chrysalis and her army out of Canterlot, she maintains the shield over the Crystal Empire, she regains the Crystal Heart and places it where it belongs and she motivates the crystal ponies in order to destroy Sombra.
 
Celestia sends a few letters to Twilight and gets her royal plot kicked by Chrysalis. And… that’s pretty much it.
 
And Luna… Luna has the most interesting personality, but she is notoriously useless most of the time.
 
So yeah, as much as I dislike saying it, but Cadence is the best princess right now.
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It's a cartoon show!
“Celestia getting her butt kicked” A knock out punch isn’t equivalent to a buttkicking.
 
Cadence is a sweetheart but still needs some more characterization. Still think she could have been introduced another way but she’s ok.
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@Battle GT  
But look at it this way.  
This is the first way Celestia physically interfered with the villains actions. And she failed.  
What else did she do? And I’m not talking moral support. I mean standing up for her people and fighting in a literal sense.
 
Yeah. She got angry at Discord once and… that was it.  
GG Celly, better luck next time.
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They’ve started to use Cadance’s character pretty well. I think that they’re making her really naive and gullible, and perhaps a bit stubborn as well. A new princess that is still trying to learn the ropes.
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@Itsthinking  
Honestly, I don’t see that.  
When has she been gulled into anything? When was she stubborn?
 
I agree with the “new princess that is still trying to learn the ropes”-thing, though.
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It's a cartoon show!
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This is the first time we have seen her on the show interfere.
 
Horns in the Equestria are canon as very sensitive. Do you not remember when Sweetie Belle Flicked Rarity’s horn? Considering the magic that was being dealt it was no wonder she was knocked out. I already knew Celestia wasn’t all powerful given how fearful she was of Discord prior but that’s a discussion for a another thread.
 
 
Cadence does have a personality has a confident laid back princess but I think many are in agreement that she needs fleshing out.
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@Battle GT  
But the show is our only point of view!  
If Celestia once single handedly hoofedly saved Equestria from an invasion of robot tigers with rocket launchers using a flaming chainsaw katana but it’s never depicted or mentioned, how should we know that she is so very useful?
 
I do agree with your point about the horns, though, that’s a very valid point.
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Uh, being tricked by a shape-shifting succubus? Not realizing that meeting the games inspector in person was probably more important than a headdress? Putting her own body on the line and almost dying just to protect her people?
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She’s not what I’d call a stand out character, but this show does set a very high bar for that.
 
She certainly hasn’t been a negative to the show, so I’m cool with her.
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@The_Mungoman  
>best princess  
>because she was put into situations where she was preordained to be victorious because of some power.
 
Aside from that… generic sweetheart isn’t impressive to me.
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then again, I hate everything so w/e.
 
I never disliked Cadence, I thought the reasons people did were stupid.
 
But she hasnt done anything special
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@The_Mungoman
 
I’d like to go over these points one by one since they’re all valid elements with differing perspectives:
 
She kicks Chrysalis and her army out of Canterlot
 
She does, after Twilight rescues her twice. The problem I had with this was that the show kept telling us that these two were deeply in love, but since they never got actual screen time beforehand I couldn’t buy into it. It felt more deus ex machina than a true testament to their feelings.
 
She maintains the shield over the Crystal Empire
 
Also true, yet the image I saw was a princess sitting on her thrown and looking glum while waiting for someone else to come in and solve the situation for her. If she can interact while maintaining the shield, should she have enlisted help from some of the locals? She’s keeping the status quo, but not being proactive.
 
She regains the Crystal Heart and places it where it belongs and she motivates the crystal ponies in order to destroy Sombra
 
This is the biggest tripping point for me. Twilight goes through the struggle to find the Crystal Heart and Spike takes the risk to return it. Cadance swoops in at the last moment and enjoys the glory. She does motivate everyone with a quick speech, but I saw that as capitalizing on the Crystal Heart’s return rather than her own leadership skills.
 
All in all, when I think of Cadance I think of the image of the ideal princess. She enjoys adoration, but never seems to accept responsibility. Somepony else gives her a victory and she basks in the credit. It’s frustrating to see since this is the ideal being promoted to kids. I’d really like to see Cadance be more proactive in future episodes.
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