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I feel abuse implies active, malicious intent from the artist. Bullying as opposed to physical comedy like Ciaran said.
 
So something similar to the show’s slapstick or Rainbow Rocks’ “no offense!” shtick doesn’t warrant it, but if the picture feels like the maker’s indulging their hate-boner against the character(s), it certainly calls for the relevant abuse tags. Because their goal’s not humor here, not even the dark kind.
 
Just my take on it though. And obviously discerning the uploader’s intent has its own set of issues.
 
For example, considering the fandom’s deal with Starlight, people would have had lots of room to mistake my first upload here for glimmerbuse back then. Even though the actual idea was a very dark joke about two of my favorite characters (hence the dark humor tag).
 
Hindsight also tells me that joke was dumb, but abuse was never on my mind when I made (and remade) the picture.
 

 
So I just found out barbie doll anatomy was a thing.
 
How does it interact with featureless breasts and featureless crotch ? Should they imply the barbie doll tag? Is there a difference, like draft versus complete version? Pony versus anthro/human?
 
Which one(s) am I supposed to use on my WIPs ?
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@Roseluck  
afaik “barbie doll anatomy” is when chest and/or groin is visible but whatever is visible, lacks detail beyond the basic shape. It should be considered a subtype of “nudity”.
 
Neither “featureless breasts” nor “featureless crotch” should imply it because either could exist with the other parts fully detailed on the picture.
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Just to be clear, this isn’t colored pupils, right? >>2695345
 
They keep tagging images like this as colored pupils  
Is this colored pupils? >>2694721 I mean there’s a colored dot in the middle
 
Idk man, they have/had it tagged.. I removed some but it’s on pretty much all the oc images
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Yeah. I think ‘cutting’ should have one and only one meaning: self-harm or when you’re cutting someone else.
 
If you’re chopping broccoli and want a tag for that cutting action, then I really think there needs to be a different tag.
 
Cause one is a semi-grimdark thing that maybe should be spoilered in the Default filter and the other is a daily kitchen activity.
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@Ciaran  
I mean I totally get that cutting oneself is a more important thing to tag than cutting things. I just wouldn’t even think about self-harm when tagging an innocent picture. And considering that a lot of innocent pictures are tagged “cutting”, it seems I’m not alone.
 
EDIT: Also, some of the “cutting” pictures depict harm that is not self-harm.
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I think the context of the action is more relevant than the specific action, IMO a tag wouldn’t be useful if it encompassed actions as diverse as felling trees, preparing food, slicing into tissue, and shaping gemstones.
 
What I could get behind tho is setting up “cutting vegetables” as an alias for a “food preparation” tag.
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@LightningBolt  
Changing the tag would be one way of solving it. But we could also add a description explaining the correct usage of this tag and listing some related tags that are more suitable for safe pictures or pictures that depict harm other than self harm.
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@saby  
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Yeah, I thought I got something wrong when I wrote that… Turns out it was the order of the implications. Thanks.
 

 
Another question, for something that’s probably way off in my future. NSFW.
 
If I were to upload a SciTwiDash picture where Sci-Twi’s futa, I’m supposed to remove the lesbian tag that’s automatically implied by scitwidash once it’s posted, right?
 
Is there a shipping tag for futa x female to replace it though? Futa on female and female on futa are specific to porn from what I see and the pictures I’m planning aren’t that.
 
And speaking of futa, after tagging futa sci-twi, I’m also supposed to tag intersex to make up for futa’s own implication not carrying over, right?
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@Roseluck  
Nothing on “futa on female”/“female on futa” specifies it can’t be NSFW. The only problem I see with using those tags is, they require a hierarchy of activeness/power or at least elevation, which doesn’t work for more lowkey stuff like balanced kisses and such.
 
And technically, all “futa character” tags should imply both “futa” and “intersex”, and idk why they don’t.
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The use for the tag out of frame is a bit inconsistent. There are two distinct ways you could interpret its meaning:
 
  1. As a synonym for “off-screen”. For example, on >>2676087  
  2. For images with some kind of border, and a character or object extends beyond that border—either partially, like the frame is some kind of window or door the character’s passing through (like >>2430402) or entirely, like the character is floating in front of a small square of background (like >>2685711).
From a skim over pictures tagged with out of frame, it looks like meaning #2 is the much more common one. BUT there’s a related tag head out of frame which consists entirely of pictures where a character’s head is off-screen. So as long as head out of frame exists, it’s going to make people think out of frame is supposed to be about meaning #1 instead.
 
I’m not sure how to untangle this.
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If I were to upload a SciTwiDash picture where Sci-Twi’s futa, I’m supposed to remove the lesbian tag that’s automatically implied by scitwidash once it’s posted, right?
AFAIK, yes.  
Is there a shipping tag for futa x female to replace it though? Futa on female and female on futa are specific to porn from what I see and the pictures I’m planning aren’t that.
Interesting. So like…clothed with a bulge? Anyway, I’m not aware of a tag representing this as a romance or sexuality, rather than an action.
 
 
And speaking of futa, after tagging futa sci-twi, I’m also supposed to tag intersex to make up for futa’s own implication not carrying over, right?
And technically, all “futa character” tags should imply both “futa” and “intersex”, and idk why they don’t.
An oversight, probably. Might be worth making a thread to point out these “missing implications of implications” to be fixed.
 
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@radpanic  
Oof. Um, well all I really have to contribute on this is the ones with a “frame” totally in the background hardly seems like something worthy of tagging…it’s just…another kind of background.
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Nothing on “futa on female”/“female on futa” specifies it can’t be NSFW. The only problem I see with using those tags is, they require a hierarchy of activeness/power or at least elevation, which doesn’t work for more lowkey stuff like balanced kisses and such.
 
Yeah, that’s the thing. In theory, they’re not specifically NSFW but they’ve got requirements that wouldn’t work in many SFW pictures. And in practice, well, there’s exactly two pictures (out of 12,000+) between futa on female and female on futa that show under the default filters… and one of them is cropped porn anyway.
 
So yeah, in practice, those two tags are porn tags.
 
@Background Pony #52BA  
AFAIK, yes.
 
That’s what I was planning, good to know I was on the right track.
 
Interesting. So like…clothed with a bulge?
 
That’s the idea. Might end up making Sci-Twi ‘regular’ in the pictures that don’t hinge on her being futa though, for the sake of those that don’t like that. “Not futa until proven otherwise” or something. That ship is small enough as it is.
 
Anyway, I’m not aware of a tag representing this as a romance or sexuality, rather than an action.
 
Replying to saby here too… If there’s no need/demand for that tag, I don’t mind not using one. But wanted to check if there was one first!
 
As for the intersex implications of implications, I agree with you both.
 
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Is >>2700066 (questionable) correct as it is currently with “horned/winged/tailed humanization, pony coloring, elf ears” or would it be more appropriate as “anthro, human facial structure, elf ears”?
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From the number of results zombiecollie has under Lusty Luna, I think that tag was their take on a series inspired by Princess Molestia… some eight years ago.
 
Lunaughty seems to be another offshoot considering what you get if you add that tag to the search.
 
Those three tags feel like three different people coming up with three different names for Luna: Molestation Edition ages ago, and the numbers rose (barely) from there. So… no real difference in my opinion.
 
Not like there’s an easy way to find out there’s already a tag for her, after all. No ‘official’ name means it’s guessing season.
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@LightningBolt  
Are those tags really… necessary, most of the time? It seems like they should be reserved for when the appendages in question are the primary focus of the image, otherwise it risks straying into Parcly Territory where a stock vector of Rarity on a blank background has 87 tags because every possible adjective and noun which might apply to her has been added.
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We’ve quit this pointless “only tag things when significant” bullshit years ago. It’s nothing but trouble and a pointless arbitrary limitation that helps no one.
 
No one is tagging eyes or ears as appendages but there is literally nothing problematic about tagging wings, horns, and tails. There is plenty of specific tags that can be used to find more specific instances instead of forcing this ‘only when important’ rule.
 
Tagging is a lot easier, less stressful, and friendly to others when things are more straightforward and less filled with arbitrary limitations and rules.
 
My next plans are to release the limits of duo and trio to allow shipping as there’s no reason to be restrictive.
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