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To clarify the title of *ified, I mean the tags that are mostly centered around species swapping but not always, and this inconsistently has finally come to a point that it bothers me enough to make a topic about.

First off, Ponified the poster child for this whole mess. The tag name is pretty self evident, as is the description, and if you look at some examples of it via tagging, it works for characters from other series, irl humans, objects, and even non-pony characters all turned into ponies, even official cases.

But if you look closely, you can see some non-ponies in this as well, this is because the tag also has a stronger meaning of non-pony thing turned MLP without being explicitly a pony.

This isn’t exactly resolved by the other *ified tags either, as they all imply species swap which while that works fine for non-sirens turned into sirens, it doesn’t make a whole lot of sense to imply species swap to everything turned from not a siren into a siren, as a design may be created in it’s universe to have always been a siren.
Going with myself for an example as tags on his images inspired me to do this to begin with. Now, this is a siren designed from turning an IRL person into an MLP species, ponified, if you will, just not a pony, Species swap by a textbook definition makes sense as it from IRL human to MLP siren, tho in the universe he was created for, he has always been a siren, so it makes no logical sense to the image to be tagged species swap as he did not swap in the context of the image, he has always been that way.

The question about all this is, should context matter for species swap and only apply to in-universe changes? Should it be a blanket implication for ALL *ified types, regardless of in-universe or out of it context? Should species swap be removed as an implication from many of these or added to all of them? Or something else?

My goal is to unify these tags instead of one being a catch-all while also being for ponies and the others implying species swap. Some kind of unifying factor so I stop having to edit tag changes from others on my characters.

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For the species swap tag, I think context matters. Especially when part of a bigger story or lore of some kind. If something is made to be a siren, and it’s portrayed as a siren, I see no need for species swap tag. This also doesn’t hinder search results as the ponified tag takes care of this. While the context makes this not a species swap, it’s still ponified so people can search by that tag to find images of other universe characters brought into the MLP universe.

Although, on the topic of ponified. I feel like it’d be worth a try to separate the 2 uses of this tag. There’s ponified for non-pony characters/things being turned into a pony, and there’s ponified for non-mlp characters being brought into mlp. These are obviously not very similar and having them as the same tag just doesn’t feel right. ponified could stay as is for non-pony being turn into a pony while non-mlp being turned mlp could have a new tag like mlpified.

That being said, if it’s decided that it’s not worth trying to separate the 2, there is always the option of doing ponified,pony for non-pony into pony and ponified,-pony for non-mlp to mlp. But there’s other issues with that: Users not tagging pony on pictures of ponies + if you do ponified,-pony to find an image of someone mlpified, but not as a pony. you’ll miss any images where mlpfied character is in an image with any ponies. Hence why I feel it would be worth trying to separate them.

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First off, Ponified the poster child for this whole mess. The tag name is pretty self evident, as is the description, and if you look at some examples of it via tagging, it works for characters from other series, irl humans, objects, and even non-pony characters all turned into ponies, even official cases.

But if you look closely, you can see some non-ponies in this as well, this is because the tag also has a stronger meaning of non-pony thing turned MLP without being explicitly a pony.

Ah yes, an entrenched anachronism from the good ol’ days when MLP:FiM was about ponies and 1 dragon. (And 1 other dragon, 1 griffon, and I guess some buffalo but I do my best to forget that episode exists.) Alas…
Further comments below.

@LightningBolt

This isn’t exactly resolved by the other *ified tags either, as they all imply species swap which while that works fine for non-sirens turned into sirens, it doesn’t make a whole lot of sense to imply species swap to everything turned from not a siren into a siren, as a design may be created in it’s universe to have always been a siren.
Going with myself for an example as tags on his images inspired me to do this to begin with. Now, this is a siren designed from turning an IRL person into an MLP species, ponified, if you will, just not a pony, Species swap by a textbook definition makes sense as it from IRL human to MLP siren, tho in the universe he was created for, he has always been a siren, so it makes no logical sense to the image to be tagged species swap as he did not swap in the context of the image, he has always been that way.

The question about all this is, should context matter for species swap and only apply to in-universe changes? Should it be a blanket implication for ALL *ified types, regardless of in-universe or out of it context? Should species swap be removed as an implication from many of these or added to all of them? Or something else?

@TheGlitchedWolf

For the species swap tag, I think context matters. Especially when part of a bigger story or lore of some kind. If something is made to be a siren, and it’s portrayed as a siren, I see no need for species swap tag. This also doesn’t hinder search results as the ponified tag takes care of this. While the context makes this not a species swap, it’s still ponified so people can search by that tag to find images of other universe characters brought into the MLP universe.

I think the spirit of species swap is a situation depicting a character that has previously been established with an MLP:FiM&EQG canonical race, or high-percentile-supported fandom original species, and is being depicted in the form of some other race or species. This could be in the form of a transformation sequence, a simple “oops a spell went wrong while setting up the context for what you’re about to see” or the end result of a prank, an alternate universe where the swapped state had “always been that way” in its own continuity…

In other words, regardless of how it gets explained, a character with a pre-existing, accepted canon or canon-adjacent race/species gets depicted as a different one.

Note that IRL humans are not a canon or canon-adjacent race (and remember that EqG are not humans), and therefore would not count as a “species swap” to imagine something IRL in show-style.

@TheGlitchedWolf

Although, on the topic of ponified. I feel like it’d be worth a try to separate the 2 uses of this tag. There’s ponified for non-pony characters/things being turned into a pony, and there’s ponified for non-mlp characters being brought into mlp. These are obviously not very similar and having them as the same tag just doesn’t feel right. ponified could stay as is for non-pony being turn into a pony while non-mlp being turned mlp could have a new tag like mlpified.

That being said, if it’s decided that it’s not worth trying to separate the 2, there is always the option of doing ponified,pony for non-pony into pony and ponified,-pony for non-mlp to mlp. But there’s other issues with that: Users not tagging pony on pictures of ponies + if you do ponified,-pony to find an image of someone mlpified, but not as a pony. you’ll miss any images where mlpfied character is in an image with any ponies. Hence why I feel it would be worth trying to separate them.

Agreed here (mlpified is what I thought of too but even that leaves me hesitant about dealing with EqGified) but also acknowledging what a clusterf of hard work and user education this split would be.

So, a real human into the poniverse would be tagged “mlpified” and then just what race they are, not “race-ified”.
“race-ified”, implying “species/race swap”, would apply only to situations with a pre-existing MLP-styled characterization being changed into a different species/race.

For “species swap”, the target would most often^[citation needed]^ be for another canon/adjacent species/race, but also could be: pony to irl-style human, or parasprite to Xenomorph, or dragon to Terminator; these also ought to count as “species/race swap”. It just most meaningful IMO if it starts with something MLP-related.

And on the last point, weigh the harm of the implication (to taggers) of having to remove inappropriate “species swap” tags, and harm to viewers finding posts inappropriately tagged with “species swap”, vs. removing the implication so taggers have to seek posts and add it, or otherwise just deal with its absence. Which do you think happens more: species swap getting appropriately added via the implication, or mistakenly added via the implication?

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I really don’t want to change the name of ponified for the kind of stuff I do as it’s just what I call it to everyone and label it in my head and the word changing would be jarring both to me, the people I talk to, and really anyone that wants to look for that stuff. I think whatever conclusion gets made it should be in the best interests to preserve that tag as much as possible. I don’t see any similar levels of connection to the other tags like that tho. (I also use eqg-ified too and that dash is so weird to have)

While this opinion is seeped in bias and legacy, I don’t think it’s exclusive to me at any rate. Note how the other ified tags are vastly smaller in comparison.

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I didn’t realize how many *ified tags there were. That’s a lot.

And a lot of images with those tags.

74,819 images with a ‘*ified’ tag on them.
20,108 images with a ‘species swap’ tag on them.

9,650 ‘species swap’ images that are not ‘*ified’.
64,271 ‘*ified’ images that are not ‘species swap’.

Hmmm … fascinating.

As just a start, I’m wondering if ‘*ified’ should imply ‘species swap’?

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I really don’t want to change the name of ponified for the kind of stuff I do as it’s just what I call it to everyone and label it in my head and the word changing would be jarring both to me, the people I talk to, and really anyone that wants to look for that stuff.

Considering how cases similar to this were handled, you could update the description of ponified to clarify that it’s for non-pony to pony and under it have something about the mlpified tag so anyone who searches ponified will (hopefully) see that ponified and mlpified are different things.

As just a start, I’m wondering if ‘*ified’ should imply ‘species swap’?

I could see this being good for certain *ified tags but not all of them. idw showified is a nice example of this, it’s an ified tag that doesn’t directly apply species swap. Plus, depending on what decision is made here ponified/mlpified wouldn’t imply species swap either.
Now for *ified tags like seaponified, this tag already has species swap as an implication because anything under this tag should be a species swap so setting species swap as an implication makes sense here.

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@Ciaran

I didn’t realize how many *ified tags there were. That’s a lot.

And a lot of images with those tags.

74,819 images with a ‘*ified’ tag on them.
20,108 images with a ‘species swap’ tag on them.

9,650 ‘species swap’ images that are not ‘*ified’.
64,271 ‘*ified’ images that are not ‘species swap’.

Hmmm … fascinating.

To complete the record, I looked into those 64,271 images (64,109 for me, as I stupidly forgot to take in account the ones I’d hidden previously, which is my bad) and, to break it down*:

  • the “ponified” images account for 41,525 of them;
  • the “equestria girls-ified” images for 9,854;
  • “alicornified” are 5,423;
  • “bat ponified” are 2,743 (the latter two implying “race swap” instead of “species swap”);
  • which, by my count, leaves 6,748 images where the “*ified” tag isn’t paired with any of the above, most of which being tags with less than 1000 hits each, many of which don’t carry the “species swap” implication (one of the largest being “rainbow power-ified” which probably shouldn’t carry it anyway, plus some which most definitely shouldn’t, like “horrified”, “terrified” or “mummified”);
  • and there’s also 965 “*ified” images whose tag is supposed to imply “species swap” but where it is nonetheless absent for some reason or another (either tagged before the implication was added in or subsequently removed), 871 of which also overlap with the previous group and the “ponified” images accounting for most of the difference.

*Note that those numbers are subject to change and may soon no longer be accurate, as some of the missing tags I spotted should definitely have been there, which I intend to fix.

As just a start, I’m wondering if ‘*ified’ should imply ‘species swap’?

As the underscored bits above show, I don’t think so, even if some of the tags among them do not yet and perhaps should.

Not to mention there are tags implying “species swap” which don’t fit the “*ified” format (included in the 9,650 images you mentioned), such as “griffonized”, “mermaidized”, “breeziefied”, “lamiafied”, “zebrafied” or “hippogriffied”, for example.

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