Sonic Discussion

This is the last then I will say about cats as this is the Sonic thread.  
I think the problem is not just that it’s live action but the designs have too much human and not enough cat.  
I mean we have seen anthro cats done well in live action before  

Bois
 
OK KO! Lets be Heroes had a crossover with Sonic

@E-123  
who’s voicing him?

@Angrybrony  
Roger Craig Smith, reportedly.

@E-123
 
Not “had”, it’s an upcoming crossover.

@E-123  
This is official? As in… Sega themselves approved this? Well, Sonic has had many crossovers over the years, (definately more then Mario has) SSB, Lego Dimensions, Megaman comics, Image Comics, Archie & Friends, Sabrina, ect.  
(Also, it hasn’t aired yet, according to the description, it airs August 2nd on CN.)
 
Still, of all the random things Sonic could cross-over with, why that show? That’s like crossing him over with SpongeBob, or “Summer Camp Island,” or something.  
(I guess I’m a li’l biased against that show too, because the only episode I ever saw of it was that notorious, cringy, preachy, “Skeleton Remote” episode, which kinda ruined that show for me.)
 
I will give them points for using some old Sonic cartoon nods in it. I was under the impression, Sega wanted to pretend those never existed. (Seeing as the Archie & IDW series are forbidden from using the term “Planet Mobius,” and such now.)
 
@northern haste  
Well, that’s a li’l more tolerable, but admittedly realistic anthros can be kinda weird regardless how they’re handled.

I never did get to finish Sonic Rush.

@Beau Skunky  
I’m honestly a little perplexed with how Sonic and Tails look like how they usually do, yet are in a world of a drastically more simple art style. I don’t know much of the series, but I do know ho it looks, and I honestly wouldn’t have minded them translating the duo into said style. Here, they just stand out, and I don’t think in the best way.

@Beau Skunky  
It’s practically the only popular action Cartoon atm  
Mao Mao is still new and Steven Universe wouldn’t fit Sonic at all  
Not to mention that the creator is a huge sonic Fanboy

@Broken Adam  
Huh, that’s interesting.
 
Yeah, aside from anime, action cartoons have been unfortunately dying off in favor of only comedy cartoons. Which is ironically the opposite of what it was around the early 2000s, when almost everything had to be action, adventure, or anime, and hardly any slice-of-life shows.  
Even the “Fruit Loops” commercials had to be action adventure oriented.
 
@SnakeyThingy  
I think they look ok, they’re a li’l more simplistically drawn, so there are some minor differences.
 
Besides, Sonic fans would have a cow if they changed Sonic & Tails in even the slightest way to match the show style.
 
I honestly don’t mind seeing Sonic drawn in other styles sometimes. (But if overdone, like the Sonic Archie Comics’ “uber-anime” phase in the early 2000s, it gets old, I like variety.)  
That was actually something I miss about the Archie Sonic series. Seeing variations in styles like Patrick Spaziante, Stephen Butler, Tracey Yardly, J.Axer, Ben Bates, ect. was kinda nice sometimes.  
Frankly, I see hardly any differences between the current IDW Sonic artists, or the Fleetway one/s. They all look done by one person.
 
It’s fine if some fans prefer Sonic being more on-model, but some get too obsessive on that.  
That said, I wouldn’t mind the new movie redesign looking slightly different from the game model. Honestly, I feel the big uni-eyes, rubberhose skinny limbs, and such might look odd in live-action.

 
@Beau Skunky  
The only artists that I loved from Archie were Tracey Yardly and Ben Bates. Their styles were almost the same, but I prefered those because how they drawed the mobian body. Steve Butler is fine too, but since he is more about superheroes, he usually pulls furry-bait, which is weird or uncanny in the end.
 
Its hard to distinguish the style of different artists because they receive instructions in how to draw the characters now. Penders and the previous old pencil artists didnt have any instructions at all to draw Sonic and friends, which explains the many bizarre styles and uncanny crappy art from the old Archie series.

@Beau Skunky  
American studios for some reason don’t like Action Cartoons, the 80’s Saturday Morning Action Cartoons boom was because they were impressed by Action Anime and wanted to try it themselves , the 2000’s Boom was influenced by Shounen becoming relatively mainstream

@E-123  
Just what the Music video makers needed…

I haven’t watched Cartoon Network in 10 years, so I don’t know anything about OK KO.

Can’t really say that the preview just me interested in watching.  
It’s just saying that the crossover is a thing. Also I don’t think I like the art style of the show that must

So, after coming back to the comics, I am entirely surprised that Rouge took so long to appear
 

 
And what I love about this issue is how the first action Rouge does in the Archie Comics is punching Bunnie Rabbot in the stomach because she thought Bunnie was an Eggman’s robot. Oh, and this issue is where we discover that Mobius is actually a post-apocalyptic Earth, and Eggmad dies again.

@E-123  
I always did find the idea of Mobius being a post-apocalyptic world to be cool.

what was rouge like in the old comics?

@Angrybrony  
Overall, a flirty Catwomen-esc anti-hero, sometimes rival, sometimes heroine, sometimes theif, sometimes agent of GUN, and basically like she was in the games. She has a bit of a mischievous side too, such as she enjoys pissing off Julie-Su by flirting with Knuckles.
 
@E-123  
I can’t help, but find the Bunnie & Rouge fight a bit hilariously fan-service-y. Though, characters fighting is nothing unusual in the comics, or games to be honest. (Heck, Sonic has fought almost everyone at this point.) At least it shows both Bunnie & Rouge are quite tough.
 
@Scrabbleman  
It’s a bit cliché nowadays unfortunately, but it kinda works in the comics, and helps tie in the whole “Sonic is from earth” canon from the games, so it doesn’t contradict that.
 
Though, even the animes like “Sonic X,” and the OVA also portray Sonic & friends as aliens from another world, so it’s actually not uncommon for them to use that canon. (Though, the OVA kinda hints that “Planet Freedom,” might be post-apocalyptic too.)

So apparently the movie’s release date was pushed further again but they changed it back.  
my guess is there was a misunderstanding with the person who was running the Twitter

IDW #19 spoilers:
 

 
@Scrabbleman  
Oh, it was cool… The idea was cool, but in early times, it was badly written or ignored completely. It was this issue when the writers finally got tired about the thing of “Mobius is the future Earth, but there is little to no evidence of it” (Somewhat like the first seasons of Adventure Time, when the post-apocaliptic Earth was just a theory), and finally showed a huge obvious evidence example of it, by making Sonic and Tails traveling to the now ancient ruins New York City to stop a resurrecting Eggman. They choose New York because a ruined, decayed Liberty Statue is the staple of “Yep, this was Earth all along”, also a reference of The Planet of the Apes.
 
@Beau Skunky  
Oh, it was entirely fan-service-y, and since it was a different pencil artist (Axer), they made Rougue’s boobs bigger and more pronouced.
 

 

 
Unfortunately, the battle ends in the most lazy way possible… Sonic enters into scene, tells Rouge that Bunnie is not the enemy, and both say “Oops”. Thats it.
 
So yeah, kinda pointless filler, which is sad for being the first authentic appearance of Rouge the Bat.

@E-123  
Ian Flynn for all his talent simply doesn’t Get shadow  
He seems to think Shadow is meant to be like Vegeta as seen in recent events when that’s not really the case at all

@Broken Adam  
i’m not really seeing any vegeta in comic shadow.

@E-123  
wait is #19 out?

@Angrybrony  
Apparently it is.  
I thought it’d be out later