Star Wars General
gingerninja666 
Kaze ni Nare
@QuasarNova
(imagines Hux and Kylo coming out in black and white to porn guitar music strumming air guitars)
(imagines Hux and Kylo coming out in black and white to porn guitar music strumming air guitars)
Stratus
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@gingerninja666
I know it’s late, but The Force Awakens mentioned the Sith and referenced a clone army.
I know it’s late, but The Force Awakens mentioned the Sith and referenced a clone army.
Nightweaver20xx 
Evil
Hey, so I have another big question for everyone to ponder about the SW universe: How come in KOTOR and other early material does the level of technology seem exactly the same as the present canon (Last Jedi?) Like, it’s the same 4,000 years ago. Speeders, computers, droids, hyperspace. Has there been no invention in the last 4 millennia?
Vortaxonus
@Nightweaver20xx
I guess you can only innovate so much in a futuristic setting before things would begin to slow down.
I guess you can only innovate so much in a futuristic setting before things would begin to slow down.
Dustcan 
Dogs
@Nightweaver20xx
Technology finally capped out at hyperspace drives and planet destroying death rays?
Technology finally capped out at hyperspace drives and planet destroying death rays?
Zincy 
In Vino Veritas
@Nightweaver20xx
Well technically they fucked up. Orginal “Old Republic” Era from the early comics and stories was actually very low tech (comparatively).
When the games came along, they changed that so as to not confuse people.
Well technically they fucked up. Orginal “Old Republic” Era from the early comics and stories was actually very low tech (comparatively).
When the games came along, they changed that so as to not confuse people.
Mad Black 
Well the ships get bigger, faster, weapons and shields get more powerful, new hyperlanes are discovered, and ships get faster from a to b. But those are more or less marginal in 4000 years. But hey just think about how long humanity used swords, spears and shields until we discovered black powder. And even then, it took a good five hundred years from the first muzzleloader muskets, to breechloader guns, to a 6 shot revolver and another century to automatic and semiautomatic weapons. And since WW2 basic firearms haven’t changed that much, unless you look rather close at the topic.
I mean would you guess that between this and that lies almost a century?
I mean would you guess that between this and that lies almost a century?
TheSupremePatriarch
@Nightweaver20xx
I think the canon answer is because the galaxy under the Republic was relatively peaceful and there was little competition as well. So it ends up being econ/tech stagnant as a result, a sort of weird space medieval stasis.
Of course, that doesn’t explain why the Clone War Republic and CIS both seem more advanced than the Empire.
I think the canon answer is because the galaxy under the Republic was relatively peaceful and there was little competition as well. So it ends up being econ/tech stagnant as a result, a sort of weird space medieval stasis.
Of course, that doesn’t explain why the Clone War Republic and CIS both seem more advanced than the Empire.
Shayzorr 
@Nightweaver20xx
Old extended universe was not big on lasting technological breakthroughs. Real-world explanation. It’s possible the writers didn’t want to change the setting too much to avoid slipping from Star Wars to generic science fiction. Perhaps they were worried about upsetting the status quo, or perhaps it was dictated from higher up. Change the technology too much and you don’t have Star Wars anymore, you have Battlestar Galactica or Babylon 5.
I don’t know if there are any in-world explanations. Perhaps SW technology just is mature in a sense that science has done what can be done, and the remaining problems are mostly about engineering or cost. Wasn’t the Republic about ten millenia old? Say you can purchase a hyperdrive that will take you from Dantoine to Coruscant in ten days, and it costs 1000. Or you can have a hyperdrive that can do the run in 5 days but costs 1,000,000 and requires three ughnauts to live in the engine to keep it running. Most will pick the slower drive. Eventually the costs might come down, but what if that doesn’t apply here? Perhaps the advanced drive requires rare materials, or is just so hellishly difficult to construct that costs can’t be brought down. The regular 1000-credit hyperdrive may be the pinnacle of readily available technology, and everything above that is just too expensive to use widely.
The galactic scale can also matter. Even if someone makes a technological breakthrough, disseminating the technology, training people to work and build it, and maintaining the infrastructure necessary for it are going to be tough. Most characters in the movies and books can disassemble and fix a hyperdrive by themselves, while most people today probably don’t know how their car works, much less how to fix it if the electronics fail.
And someone will want to profit from the new tech. If you can design a 100,000 credit hyperdrive that can do the Dan-Cor run in 8 days, it is only useful if someone is willing to pay x100 cost for shaving off two days. The markets are small, and the stuff doesn’t get wide exposure. Empire would want the best stuff, but military benefits from standardization and easy maintenance, and if you can build 12 regular star destroyers or 1 souped-up one, those 12 units give you more flexibility.
Perhaps the stuff is there, but we just don’t see much of it. Millenium Falcon had an improved hyperdrive, but I don’t know if it was bought, tweaked, inherited, found, or what. It was apparently temperamental and required expert handling (whack it with a hydrospanner), but also exceptional in a ship of that type or size. There are plenty of regional specialties, odd vehicles, rare weapons, or weird implements in the stories. Why don’t others use Mandalorian jetpacks? Why are wookiees the only race who uses bowcasters?
This being Star Wars, the probable reason for stagnated technology is that the moment you get an eureka moment and improve something, a Sith or some some other angry dude will appropriate it from you, build an army to exploit it, and some time later a small band of heroes will infiltrate your factory and blow it all up.
Old extended universe was not big on lasting technological breakthroughs. Real-world explanation. It’s possible the writers didn’t want to change the setting too much to avoid slipping from Star Wars to generic science fiction. Perhaps they were worried about upsetting the status quo, or perhaps it was dictated from higher up. Change the technology too much and you don’t have Star Wars anymore, you have Battlestar Galactica or Babylon 5.
I don’t know if there are any in-world explanations. Perhaps SW technology just is mature in a sense that science has done what can be done, and the remaining problems are mostly about engineering or cost. Wasn’t the Republic about ten millenia old? Say you can purchase a hyperdrive that will take you from Dantoine to Coruscant in ten days, and it costs 1000. Or you can have a hyperdrive that can do the run in 5 days but costs 1,000,000 and requires three ughnauts to live in the engine to keep it running. Most will pick the slower drive. Eventually the costs might come down, but what if that doesn’t apply here? Perhaps the advanced drive requires rare materials, or is just so hellishly difficult to construct that costs can’t be brought down. The regular 1000-credit hyperdrive may be the pinnacle of readily available technology, and everything above that is just too expensive to use widely.
The galactic scale can also matter. Even if someone makes a technological breakthrough, disseminating the technology, training people to work and build it, and maintaining the infrastructure necessary for it are going to be tough. Most characters in the movies and books can disassemble and fix a hyperdrive by themselves, while most people today probably don’t know how their car works, much less how to fix it if the electronics fail.
And someone will want to profit from the new tech. If you can design a 100,000 credit hyperdrive that can do the Dan-Cor run in 8 days, it is only useful if someone is willing to pay x100 cost for shaving off two days. The markets are small, and the stuff doesn’t get wide exposure. Empire would want the best stuff, but military benefits from standardization and easy maintenance, and if you can build 12 regular star destroyers or 1 souped-up one, those 12 units give you more flexibility.
Perhaps the stuff is there, but we just don’t see much of it. Millenium Falcon had an improved hyperdrive, but I don’t know if it was bought, tweaked, inherited, found, or what. It was apparently temperamental and required expert handling (whack it with a hydrospanner), but also exceptional in a ship of that type or size. There are plenty of regional specialties, odd vehicles, rare weapons, or weird implements in the stories. Why don’t others use Mandalorian jetpacks? Why are wookiees the only race who uses bowcasters?
This being Star Wars, the probable reason for stagnated technology is that the moment you get an eureka moment and improve something, a Sith or some some other angry dude will appropriate it from you, build an army to exploit it, and some time later a small band of heroes will infiltrate your factory and blow it all up.
TheSupremePatriarch
@Dustcan
I know what the fluff says, but it still doesn’t feel right. It’s not an organic transition that makes you think “yeah that’s how a society would move on with time”.
Compared to the fast maturing, bred-for-battle quasi super soldiers that are Clones or the fast producing robotic army that doesn’t need to sleep/eat/care about morale issues, and never gets fatigued…
It just makes the Empire’s military feel archaic.
This all stems from George’s decision to make the Clones the good guys.
I know what the fluff says, but it still doesn’t feel right. It’s not an organic transition that makes you think “yeah that’s how a society would move on with time”.
Compared to the fast maturing, bred-for-battle quasi super soldiers that are Clones or the fast producing robotic army that doesn’t need to sleep/eat/care about morale issues, and never gets fatigued…
It just makes the Empire’s military feel archaic.
This all stems from George’s decision to make the Clones the good guys.
Icicle Niceicle 1517 
Ocs,Boops,Tickles&Memes
@SquiggyBomb
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