Don't blame me, I voted for the other guy. (Politics General)

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@Mikey  
Then I’d have to see the candidates who are apposed to them prove to me without a doubt that my viewpoint is incorrect and theirs is. None of them have ever done that.
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According to the news agency:
A defiant van Beurden rejected a rising chorus from climate activists and parts of the investor community to transform radically the 112-year-old Anglo-Dutch company’s traditional business model.
“Despite what a lot of activists say, it is entirely legitimate to invest in oil and gas because the world demands it,” van Beurden said.
“We have no choice” but to invest in long-life projects, he added.
 
You can’t spend billions of dollars killing climate action legislation and then say that you have to invest in oil because the world demands it.
 
You manufactured this demand.
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@The Smiling Pony  
This is painful to look at, not worth of a world leader.
 
I hope no one here voted for Trump, or you will have to explain this.
 
@Background Pony #5AD0  
@Derpy Whooves  
Banning nazis will force them to be more sneaky and hard to find. Being up to date with their symbols and memes and habits is hard and alienating, I did it for years I ended in depression.  
Instead we must force them to change their mind, being influential and use psychology.
 
 
@GargantuanBass  
Can we know who’s doing this or have a safe or a way to just disable upvote/downvotes on sensitive images?
 
 
@Commune  
How can you be a part of a society if you even leave room for criticism about inequality between class?
 
I never said it was perfect, equality has to be mandatory. Abolish the bourgeoisie and the poor will disappear into one single class. We agree, only communism provides this solution.
 
 
@Commune  
Let’s ensure to change this then! We need an industry, we need designers, we need goods and items, we need software and entertainment.
 
My vision is to have corporations integrated and ran by government, to keep the best they can bring, and as someone else create an unity.
 
Imagine how great would that be if Hasbro merged with Disney, Allspark with Pixar, instead of being rivals there would be a start for collaboration. Same with energy and tech, it’s about synergies connecting.
 
That was not possible during the last century, but the 21st century is the beginning of something new. Gender identity revolution, globalization, information, change of populations… It’s the moment, it’s the very moment to have it, and some are doing it. The press, the media, the creatives, stars, influencers, writers never have been so motivated to inspire change.
 
@Mikey  
If life taught me one thing, never believe anything made in the purpose of propaganda or for commercial reasons. You got on the moon before soviets to prove a point. This is ridicule, as USSR just sent robots there. Cheaper, and as productive as US soldiers.
 
It was in the 1970s, yet you only sent white males. Six times!
 
One step for man, a giant leap backwards for mankind.
 
 
@CaptainXtra  
No, this man destroyed net neutrality is using the big China fear-mongering and opposes progress.
 
“China is collecting data! DATA” Everyone is collecting data, it’s important. My job also consists on analytics and stats from data so what. If you have something to hide, or fear about what would happen if someone found what you’re looking at or searching for, or what site caused your browser to crash, you might have wrong reasons to do it.
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@Background Pony #99EE  
Except China uses that “data” to quite literally destroy the lives of its citizens the government considers scum for lack of a better word. Choosing who your friends can be, what you watch, listen to, when you can use public transit, when you can travel, etc. that’s not the future, that’s a dystopia.
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@Mikey  
I was. Hand to God, when I first saw it I thought it was satire. I had to look up “Trish Regan” to see if she was a comedian or a real journalist. (She’s on Fox Business, so technically the answer is neither.)
 
And Turkey’s response was to shell American positions in Syria, so, y’know, I’m gonna go ahead and say the letter worked like a fucking charm.
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@TheMagpulPone  
I know you’re a right winger American and I’m gonna teach you a few things.
 
It’s social engineering and it’s important. Society is a lot of people, not everyone have access to culture and not everyone is open-minded. not everybody is kind or have a sense of tolerance.
 
When you’re on a social network you don’t want to be flooded with MAGA memes or news that will inspire hatred from people, we agree. Hate is a huge problem.
 
Speaking on chosing who your friends are, are you sure you want to be friend with white nationalists, white supremacists? Transphobes who are joking about suicide rates, or bring back in science recognizes only two genders?
 
The new trend that also appears is to shame parents who cannot afford vaccines, skeptics and make horrible jokes about infant death. You do not want to be associated with those people. If it happens you are under influence.
TheMagpulPone
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@Background Pony #99EE  
I think you’re missing my point entirely. I’m not friends with anyone like that, I don’t even use social media. I’m saying, what you’re advocating for is a government controlled system similar to China’s, that momitors, regulates, and punishes citizens for things as simple as daring to criticize the government or watching the “wrong” TV show.
 
And who decides what is and isn’t “wrong”? The people? No. The government. That is not freedom, it’s tyranny. A stripping away of basic rights to create a society that lives at the pure mercy of a government that literally decides who you’re allowed to associate with. I will never stand for this.
 
A society under such strict government monitoring and control, that acts of resistance are punishable by not even being able to make purchases, use transportation, travel, sell, or work? No thank you.
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@TheMagpulPone  
You don’t even have a facebook page? Not a Tumblr, Twitter, Fur Affinity or DeviantArt? I spot your artist icon.
 
I’m trying to understand why right wing people are so avoiding new technology like social media. With social media, at least you learn to interact with people, you see and know what are people’s problems.
 
It’s teaching you empathy. You will receive friend requests and be open to others, like everyone should be.
 
if you start being a hater you won’t have any friends. And you will remain closed in your own bubble and have your own beliefs. This is how sociopaths are born. You don’t want to be one.
 
Regulation is important in every society. What you think is your own freedom can lead you to isolation, and not looking outside, not being in touch with society and change will make you an outcast, what appears normal and acceptable for everyone will look strange to you.
 
Like you’re locked in a time capsule and arrive in the future. I noticed this behavior in a lot of tech geeks, programmers, furries and bronies around me who are totally disconnected from most media, only goes with their own fandom and not paying attention to the changes in society.
 
Criticizing the government is something I can understand, but there’s criticizing and bringing a solution, helping the government getting better, and criticizing with a partisan motive, like saying “we need to remove communism despite bringing our country into the state of superpower”
 
Say “it was better before when we had a right wing government that dug up inequalities and forced everyone to have a job” “The current government is bringing in too many migrants” “The government legalized gay marriage it’s bad” “too much carbon tax, I care about my freedom not the future” are unacceptable to read or hear even in a democracy or any modern country.
 
I wonder how a TV channel can spread a wrong show. Are you sure you’re not pirating something? Are you talking about the lunatic Alex Jones or Prison Planet stuff?
 
When the government decides you should have speed limits or should vaccinate your kids, it’s not tyranny. Freedoms also should be shared, you can have a bit less of freedoms ( less fuel for your tank forcing you to get a hybrid or electric) and freedom for others people, like asylum seekers, or trans people to be recognized.
 
Also, spreading hatred and lies, or dissent stuff should never be a “freedom” You only talk about this word and don’t really know what it really means.
 
You really want freedom? That also means every gay right, everyone have the freedom to migrate, the freedom to steal your goods.
 
We can no longer live with this childish idea of freedom, every society’s value is measured on its laws.
 
I liked anarchy a while ago, but anarchy only gives fuel for the ANCAP now. Selfishness is a horrible aspect of humanity and only through social reforms we can bury this.
TheMagpulPone
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Dynamic Pie
@Background Pony #99EE  
Wow. That’s a lot to unpack. First of all, my artist badge and link are from this one site. Second, you don’t have to explain to me how social media sites work, I’m well aware and simply choose not to use them, preferring to socialize in real life with friends I can actually hang out with, two of which I’ve known since I was 5.
 
You clearly don’t like right wing anything and made comments about how you dislike MAGA memes or pro-trump media on social networks, therefore it’s okay to censor and remove one apposing viewpoint and prop up another just because you disagree with their politics? Uh, No?
 
As for TV spreading the “wrong show” that’s as simple as a show that even makes a small amount of fun of the government. Why do you think China banned South Park? Because they got royaly butt-hurt over a harmless joke.
 
And no. My gas prices should not be made intentionally unaffordable. My daily driver is a Ford that gets 11MPG. I don’t need overpriced gas and I ain’t buying a hybrid.
 
And how you equate freedom to somehow having the right to rob people, I have no clue.
 
 
(P.S. If I don’t respond it’s because I fell asleep and I’ll respond tomorrow)
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And no. My gas prices should not be made intentionally unaffordable. My daily driver is a Ford that gets 11MPG. I don’t need overpriced gas and I ain’t buying a hybrid.
 
Well guess what, they’re not intentionally being made unaffordable, that’s already going to happen as fossil fuels are harder to find.
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@Scrabbleman  
Good point and this is what I would add. Why is justice blind. Justice should not be blind, justice should see everything, check and control everything to determine really if someone is guilty.
 
Take in consideration every aspects that led someone to commit a crime, or to decide or not of someone really is innocent.
 
I want a society where no one should be directly found guilty or accused without taking as a whole the causes and the context.
 
You now understand what is the meaning of social justice, it’s not blaming blindly some people, but searching the cause.
 
Why is a person stealing? Why is a person drunk driving? What led a person to be racist? What psychological background brought someone to become a rapist or a murderer?
 
Cure and teach, instead of just locking people and apply the laws. I’m all for authority but also understanding the causes, there is always a human cause to a consequence and it must be determined. There, analytics is our ally. But oh, my privacy, my prison, my bubble of secrets… so important, so free…
 
 
@TheMagpulPone
 
Yet you are talking with people here with radically different culture and different countries across the world, and I think this is good for you or anybody.
 
It’s not okay to censor different views or approach of politics, when you think it’s not okay to censor a party that promotes hatred, racism, classicism, nationalism, islamophobia and homophobia, it’s common sense.
 
South Park should stick being humorous. Making trans jokes, racism and all in the shield of “it’s for fun” is not acceptable. Even Netflix bans this. And this is right.
 
No joke really is harmless. Find a better humor.
 
You will one day realize and regret all this about your lifestyle.
 
Absolute freedom is complete anarchy. You think it would be fair to life in a freedom society where you have a gun and shoot anyone including kids shoplifting, and people who starve would need to come at you and shoot you to steal your valuable, this is chaos. We don’t want this.
TheMagpulPone
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Dynamic Pie
@Background Pony #99EE  
So now we need to censor jokes, silence media we don’t like, and ban TV shows that millions of people watch just to laugh and lose a little stress. Because fuck freedom of speech, am I right? I don’t think I’ll regret any of this tbh. Absolute freedom is chaos, but absolute control is a prison. And that is what you’re for some reason supporting. I’m not going to regret enjoying a cartoon, hanging out with friends, driving my gas guzzling dream truck everyday, or not censoring myself to avoid possibly offending someone. That’s just not me, and it’s not millions of other people, either.
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@TheMagpulPone  
Freedom of speech should not be freedom of bigotry or ableism. Even if it’s popular, it means it is more problematic.
 
I thought you were tired.
 
 
@TheMagpulPone  
It’s this, or keep worsening climate change.
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@Background Pony #99EE  
It is not the responsibility of the justice system to determine causes of crime. That would be someone else.
 
It’s responsibility is to uphold the laws that govern they people for the people, and provide a fair and unbiased trial for the accused and (if exists) the accuser. Should the law cause harm to the people, then it must change itself accordingly.
 
This itself is already a tough job. One that is under constant stress and scrutiny. You can’t nor you shouldn’t add more weight to this, or else the entire system collapses.
 
Have someone else determine the cause of cringe and have them or a different party fix it. Justice should not involve itself in this.
 
Haven’t you ever heard of the term “Don’t put all your eggs in one basket.”? There’s a good reason for that.
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