Don't blame me, I voted for the other guy. (Politics General)

@Zincy  
good old Brittain.

@CaptainXtra  
@Zincy  
Why did Ireland even become part of the UK if they hate the British? In fact, why does anyone ally with Britain if they hate the British?
 
 
@Commune  
Everything goes exactly as expected.

@Scrabbleman  

 
The Tudors and Cromwell didn’t exactly give the Irish a choice in the matter when they conquered them. And after that, the British did their best to marginalize the Irish Catholics in their own country, the resentment against their rule ultimately giving birth to nationalism. At first, the Irish only wanted home rule without leaving the UK, but because of the intransigence of Protestant unionists (which had encroached in Ulster thanks to past English colonization efforts) and subsequent repression, which only further radicalized the population, the conflict turned into an armed struggle for independence, which was eventually granted in 1921 (albeit with a partition, due to the aforementioned status of Ulster).  
And because the unionists couldn’t learn their lesson, the discrimination of Catholics in Northern Ireland eventually led to the Troubles in the 60s, which lasted for thirty years and left a death toll in the thousands.

So the UK apparently likes the taste of their own foot, what with Boris Johnson’s victory.

@Violet Rose in The Rain  
Just because you don’t like it, doesn’t mean it’s bad.

@Violet Rose in The Rain
 
Well at least me and Zincy get what we want in Northern Ireland: rubber-meets-the-road testing for all the advancements in additive-manufactured weaponry and Irish reunification respectively. Hopefully the Irish boogaloo will start sooner rather than later, because we need to test the efficacy of the FGC-9, Liberator 12k, and the myriad other 3D-printed and CNC-milled AKs, ARs, Ingram M10s and 11s, and various Glock models before we start testing making them select-fire.

@Scrabbleman
 
I must have missed the part where the Tories gaining a majority was good.
 
You know, the same guys who gutted NHS.

@Violet Rose in The Rain  
This has been known since Thatcher , the Brits Nowadays want a nanny state to tell them which porn to watch
 
Quite ironic

@The Smiling Pony  
Nah it’s rather an irony.  
What I wanted to expose here is like, a TV channel or some random stupid “celebrity” moralizing people driving a diesel, while on the same channel there’s gonna be a commercial for the new Chrysler or Ford SUV, or himself/herself drives one. There’s examples like this all the time, everywhere.
 
Hypocrites are everywhere and don’t actually want to change society they are complaining about. They are responsible for their own fate.
 
«I drive a diesel, I hate it. I feel guilty because Greta is crying.»  
«I drive a diesel too. a Duster. I don’t feel guilty, but I dunno, offer her a pony plushie or something»
 
Here’s one that keep coming back and I love it.  
«I hate the iPhone, it’s chinese made spy devices, they know everyting about you, Syri is recording all things all the time like Google»  
Yet this person still use an iPhone. And you know why? Because they choose to. They buy it instead of like, buying a cheaper phone that do respect their privacy, and use like, a computer for all internet things.
 
Consumerism is a meme, a guy see someone do something stupid, but just for the sake of looking normal he’s gonna follow. Why? What is the point of even doing something you disagree with.
 

 
If you take part in a system you can not fight it. You want people into it to join you, but it does not works, because you fear being alone.
 
Today, just one hour ago on the parking of Carrefour, grabbing food for cat:  
«This sucks, every little shops are closing. I live in the city center and the streets are empty»  
«Ah, it’s a shame indeed, the competition against supermarkets is insane.»
 
That woman had everything available in her own street, yet drives ten kilometres shopping at Carrefour.  
(a supermarket)
 
Face it, people don’t want to change. Even on important things. I wonder how else you would force them to.

The Tories didn’t even gain that much of a popular vote gain this election
 
But British politics is so fucking broken that they got over half the parliament despite having less than half the votes
 
@Scrabbleman  
Can you stop this centrist both sides bullshit for once in your life to see that the right wing have been a consistent disaster throughout most of their reigns from India to the US?

@Commune  
What’s so wrong with right wing?

@Scrabbleman
 
Indeed. People confuse centrism with either libertarianism, liberalism or left-ish ideologies, which isn’t the purpose of a centrist party. I exactly had the same discourse about wether Macron is left or right wing. He’s picking the worst from both left and right, and pretends he’s a centre-liberal. He’s still on the same branch as Hollande, but harder, using corporate power as a backbone, shitting on everyone’s rights, with shoddy alliances with the liberal-right. ( There’s no longer a right wing here, it’s fragmented and a complete, perpetual drama)
 
The only candidate I’d vote for right now is Jean Lassalle, this guy is a real centrist. Not against a minimum of social principles, neither obstructing the economy with taxation and levies on everything.

@Commune
 
@Patachu
 
@Scrabbleman  
Each and every one of you are all stubborn in your own special way.
 
Even me.

I can see why this thread is pretty much an echo chamber.

@Scrabbleman  
Politics is not a STEM field  
Centrism does change positions overtime with the overturn window etc.  
Either ways, saying that the Tories “may not be bad because you don’t like them” is idiotic because they want to further fuck over poor people and are entirely unashamed at it
 
@SombrLiz  
What the hell are you talking about, this thread has more fights than the WWE

@CaptainXtra  
I confess.

@Commune  
Well, let me tell ya, cause you can’t share an opinion or criticize others without getting mutilated. Cause it seems like it doesn’t belong here.

@Patachu  

 
What do you think about the American Revolution against the British? Or the French Revolution, for that matter?

Looks like Brexit is going perfectly for the Billionaires:  
Gotta have more money!

@Patachu  

 
Better a hypocrite than a corporate bootlicker.

@Violet Rose in The Rain  
Not if the hypocrisy entails corporate boot licking.

It is time we send guns to the UK.
 
74 County Ireland soon

@AaronMk  
Yeah, how about let’s not with a side of nope? Things suck enough here already.

@Latecomer