The downfall of TGWTG or Channel Awesome

@Angrybrony
 
Don’t make this worse, dude.

@northern haste
 
Wasn’t Logan Paul considered an awful person before he made that suicide forest video?

@MLPFan2012  
For different reasons

@Angrybrony  
I don’t get the joke.

If you can’t argue the point without attacking the person, maybe you should take a step back and rethink your post.
 
Don’t make me have to hand out bans.

What did Angry Brony do this time.

@The Glim Glam  
Attack Cyborg_pony. I’m not going into much more detail to avoid having my post Rule 0’d myself.

@The Glim Glam  
From what I saw, something about a former CA Contributer that’s currently infamous for her involvement in another controversy unrelated to CA.

@SD50-2
 
You can DM me about it so we don’t get in trouble.
 
 
@Background Pony #8137
 
Uh oh.

One thing I’ve noticed has changed about Doug Walker is his reaction to people who disagree with his opinions. He used to have a “like what you like” mantra, where anytime he talked about something he didn’t like, he would say it’s perfectly fine for his viewers to think otherwise and tell them not to let his opinion dissuade them from enjoying whatever he was talking about. Around the time he rebooted the Nostalgia Critic however, he dropped that mantra and now results to mocking and sometimes even flat out insulting people who like things he doesn’t. Basically his mantra went from “like what you like” to “stop liking what I don’t like”, which I think was a very bad move on his part.

@Background Pony #BFF7
 
THAT is what got me to abandon Doug, especially when Jurassic World came out.

@Background Pony #BFF7  
He actually had that before he rebooted when he reviewed signs he said the people liked it didn’t know any better of course it got worse after he rebooted.  
@The Glim Glam  
I still think that one is a perfect sample on how bad the clipless reviews are. Also pretty sure he is making the reviews based on memory

@northern haste
 
And then there was the Sailor Moon “review”…

@Jarkes  
I don’t even think that video even deserve to have the word in “”

Does anyone else have the feeling that Doug never wanted to bring back nostalgia critic but because demo reel wasn’t being well-received he decided to bring it back but slowly turn it into demo reel?

@northern haste
 
I’m pretty sure that’s exactly what happened.

@The Glim Glam  
He pretty much became exactly like the majority of the former CA reviewers in that regard.

@northern haste  
I think it’s quite clear from all of the drama surrounding CA that the only reason Doug brought back NC was because he needed the money. I will admit, that makes sense, as this is pretty much his job now, but it seems that the quality has suffered since then.
 
Also, I have to wonder if Doug sold off the rights to NC to the site’s owner when he stopped doing the Nostalgia Critic there for a while.

@SD50-2
 
As I understand it, Mike Michaud ALWAYS had the rights to the character.

@Jarkes  
Huh. Still seems dumb to sell off the rights to the character to someone else, unless you don’t plan on doing anything else with it.
 
Also, for those who’ve seen the Stuart Little review, what did you think of it? Some people in the comments said they loved how it was a “return to form” for the Nostalgia Critic, mostly due to the fact that it lacked any sketches.

@northern haste  

As Jarkes and the BP said, that’s basically what happened…for better and for worse. To be fair, it feels like a lot of the Demo Reel aspects have been toned back since well, Change the Channel, at least from the episodes I’ve seen. Though the skits can be a bit self-indulgent at times, it feels like to me at least that they’ve found a happy balance.
 
One thing I’d like to ask you folks, especially those of you who started watching the Nostalgia critic a year or two after it has began, is do you find the episodes before the episode that got you hooked better than the episodes that came after said episode?
 
I was hooked after the Moonwalker episode, and found quite a lot of the episodes before that quite enjoyable, and the episodes after that quite hit-or-miss for the most part. I’m wondering if it’s just something about when I jumped onboard and how a lot of the episodes after that felt less enjoyable, or is it another case of the MLP FiM binge-watching effect where you can more easily dismiss the weaker episodes because you’re watching them one-after-the-other.

@Ebalosus  
I started watching NC around the time he posted his Sidekicks review in 2009, but the very first reviews of his I saw were some of his earliest, like Batman and Robin (which, for a long time, was his most popular) and Tom and Jerry: The Movie. I heard of him in the first place because he was an occasional subject of YouTube Poops made around the same period. Seriously.
 
Anyway, I of course went back and watched all the episodes made until then, and the anniversary special (along with Ask TGWTG). In an Internet review show, the very first episodes (in his case Cloverfield and Cartoon All-Stars) are the weakest, because the creator is still finding their voice; in my opinion, almost all the episodes after I started watching were solid gold, and became more polished as they went on, so my experience was kind of the inverse of what you went through. Kickassia was, for me, his comedic high point; it was “professional” enough (or so it seemed at the time) to be feature-length while still being firmly tongue-in-cheek and unserious.
 
It wasn’t until My Pet Monster that he showed signs of taking himself more seriously, and after that things gradually, but steadily, went downhill. Suburban Knights confirmed that he was playing at being more of an actor than a comic, and so I started to lose interest, especially when I got really into the Cinema Snob. To Bodly Flee was a hell of a send-off, and even genuinely emotional at points…but unlike Kickassia or even the ‘09 special, I’ve never rewatched it.
 
I never saw Demo Reel (didn’t know where to look for it, stupidly assumed it would be under the NC”s space on the site), and I wasn’t surprised when he rebooted, because I’d heard bad things about it. Even then, he had a couple hits; Son of the Mask was bust-a-gut hilarious even though it was weighed down with the sketches. But nothing after that.
 
I’d been gone from TGWTG for years by the time Lupa got fired, and Change the Channel just confirmed, and then some, what a lot of people already suspected. Doug Walker was (and hell, maybe still is, on some level) an excellent comedian, but he won’t be an actor the way things are now. And while I question some of what’s in Change the Channel, well, shit. I don’t hate him like some people do, and I’d wager he feels guilty about some of it, but unless he’s really willing to make some apologies, take responsibility, and own up to what he’s specifically at fault for (particularly his handling of the production of the anniversary specials), I don’t see him being forgiven any time soon. I have hope that he’ll see the errors of his ways someday, but it could easily be in vain.

@SD50-2  

 
That’s been a pattern that’s been around for a while. The next NC video will have plenty of sketches throughout the review, while the next NC will be the old format of Doug making jokes throughout the review.