The downfall of TGWTG or Channel Awesome

Wow even for him this is pretty lazy  

@northern haste  
Must he have the same expression on every title screen?

@northern haste  
I saw on CA’s Twitter account that the thumbnail was completely different from the YouTube thumbnail.

@northern haste  

I also just noticed - Doug’s goatee is covered in gray hairs.

@Background Pony #8137  
Oh dear God this is much much harder to look at  
Do not look if you want to sleep tonight  

@northern haste  
I can imagine they changed the YouTube thumbnail because it may not have been considered to be advertiser-friendly, since thumbnails can also contribute whether or not the video could be monetized.

I see that Doug is acting like everyone shares his opinion  
 
The lion king was actually the first people applauded in a movie theatre I was in

Don’t look into his eyes he will still your soul  

@northern haste  
I’ll see that thing in my nightmares.

@MLPFan2012  

That surprisingly remains up, despite a recent change of heart…
 

 
I still think his documentary is pretty good mind you, despite him being a bit exceptional on twitter about CTC. He is right about them however when talking about how they’re shitty in their own right.

@Ebalosus  
what did erod do?

@Angrybrony
 
After the CTC drama, Erod began to block people left and right over the drama since he wanted to be left out of it.
 
 
@Ebalosus
 
Ironic considering how obsessive he was with going all CTC like despite being exactly like the Walker’s content and of course, mocking people who support CA either way (putting those who do art vs the artist in the crowd of blind fans).

@Ebalosus  
Boy, that esculated quickly.

So what I get from this:  
The entire situation is fucked and literally no-one is innocent?

@Ebalosus
 
I think Freddie Prinze Jr. once said it best: “There are no good guys here.”

Never watched them.

@Ebalosus
 
Didn’t CV make several KiwiFarms threads about how they wanted to literally murder the Walker Brothers, Brad Jones, and anyone else still affiliated with CA? He’s hardly in a position to judge here.

@Jarkes
 
I think he did.
 
@Background Pony #4264
 
CV is a shit face too tbh:
 
Aside from just making CTC videos for clout, he responded to critics with a smug attitude, acted like a tool about it on social media, and sometimes came off as if he just wanted to get into Lupa’s pants than anything.

@northern haste  
Whats wrong with “Batman vs Ninja Turtles”?

@Background Pony #E050  
the problem is his face. the video is just a I just saw this kind of reaction video

@SD50-2
 
Sounds like a good take to me.

@Angrybrony  
@The Glim Glam  
@Background Pony #8544
 
According to the Kiwifarms thread, it’s because Cinematic Venom a year before CTC was making videos making fun of and criticising E-Rod, and after E-Rod promoted CV’s documentary on Twitter, the aforementioned videos were brought to light. This led to a complete clusterfuck where all the CTC people sided with E-Rod and froze CV the fuck out, despite him being on their side. Yes CV is a dick, but the way CTC are acting is just hurting their position more than it’s helping.
 
@SD50-2  
@Background Pony #4264  
@MLPFan2012
 
Oh there are victims and there are perpetrators, but while the usual suspects are to blame for what happened, a lot of the CTC alumni had a hand in perpetuating what happened. The people still at CA (besides Larry) aren’t blameless, but a lot of the CTC people aren’t innocent either. You can look back on my posts in this thread on who I think were the most victimised by CA, but will add E-Rod to the list for much the same reason as Mike J: superfans of the site who wanted to be a part of it, who got in through making content and participating in the forums, only to be ignored by the Chicago crew. Whereas Mike J saw a major member shit on a fan behind said fan’s back, E-Rod was shat on both during his tenure and afterwards by Sadpanda due to the latter not thinking he had any talent. WTF!? Say what you will about the Blockbuster Buster, but at least he tried.
 
I especially like this quote by Mizafuginmike on Kiwifarms:  

If things were as bad as they said they were in 2011 and 2012 (when most of the bad stuff is alleged to have happened), if they had released the Google Doc after To Boldy Flee, or even any time during 2012, they would completely brought down the house of Michaud; and while I can understand why they waited, it’s too little too late to get any semblance of justice from the likes of Michaud or the Walker brothers.
 
Anyway, after catching up on the TGWTG thread proper on Kiwifarms, I found some more interesting tidbits about what Doug is really like: He was a total prick to ConBravo because the con wouldn’t assuage him despite only being a little con. Linkara corroborated this and added that they all (sans the Walkers) went to MAGFest at their own expense to meet up and hang out with each other, as well as occasionally host panels, because of how much they enjoyed it. Doug, despite being a prima donna to a smaller con, wasn’t willing to go to a bigger con and do panels with them because MAGFest wouldn’t pay for it, despite him definitely having the means to do so himself.

@Ebalosus  
So basically, this whole situation happened the way it did due to poor timing?
 
Also, had this Google Doc been released in 2012, would people, especially the fans of the Walkers, have even cared? I mean, in 2012, that was the height, or at least, near the height, of the Nostalgia Critic’s popularity.

@SD50-2  
I’m biased because that’s when I started watching, but I thought Walker hit his peak somewhere between 2009-2011; He had the Anniversary Brawl and his Coming Out of Their Shells review with AVGN in ‘09, which culminated their feud. 2010 had Kickassia. 2011 had Suburban Knights and the return of That Dude in the Suede, but it also had the Let’s Play of Bart’s Nightmare. 2012 was when things with Spoony blew up, and while To Boldly Flee was a hit, it was immediately followed by the announcement that the NC was gone. So yeah, I think 2012-early 2013, right when Demo Reel was bombing and Walker no longer had the Critic persona to bring in new fans, could’ve been the best time.
 
Maybe the appetite for focusing on the scandals behind content creators rather than awkward lolcows wasn’t as strong back then and SOPA had a rallying effect. People mock Walker for To Boldly Flee’s hamfisted commentary now, but they forget that SOPA set the entire Internet on fire at the time; he was just one of those who would have lost the most from it.
 
Still, though, I think ChangeTheChannel in 2012 could’ve been very plausible. Walker’s never been free from criticism.