Transformers Thread

Hey, can anyone confirm if the Beast Wars Uprising origin story “A Change To The Agenda” is as bad as it sounds?

@Solitude  
isn’t that shockwave?
 
he was the one suspicious/jealous of mega empress to try and plant a spy to keep an eye on her.
 
@WM-R  
“who’s your daddy?” - probably the most awkward line said in TF history if someone does megatron-mega empress porn

@OptimusPrimevil  
No, what I (jokingly) meant was  
@OptimusPrimevil  

 
that there might be a few jealous ones too.

@Solitude  
ah! I thought you meant the character, not the fandom.
 
or maybe they’ll do to lunaclub what (some) people did to flash sentry
 
“this is not how we wish to be represented in official canon”
 
“Jetgurl not copturgurl!!!”

@OptimusPrimevil  
Eh, it’s probably just Japan stereotyping. I don’t even know how well-known those characters even are. Could be nothing.

@Solitude  
they’re brand new characters so they have literally nothing going for and against them (no one will complain they ruined the character).

I honestly hope one day Takara get’s booted out, they are such a drag on the franchise, Hasbro are the only thing keeping it from being complete trash thanks to the low brow of japanese young men’s entertainment, seriously Shonen is poison,

@OptimusPrimevil  
@Solitude
 
I think most people are just happy to have more Female Decepticons.
 
@Thanotos Omega
 
Yeah, because it’s not like Takara contributes to the partnership. Like the Masterpieces, or retooled/new mold Combiner Wars figures like Groove, Blast Off and the Technobots.

@WM-R  
Toywise sure, but they have never been worth a damn lore wise, i mean the best they have ever done isn’t even as good as Beast Machines, Hasbro should just handle all the story and stop letting those morons dumb everything down for their drones,

@WM-R  
funny how people complained that the torchbe rust renegades are just repaints/remolds of existing CW toys rather than being 100% new toys then go praising how megatronia is giving us new female characters (decepticons)

@OptimusPrimevil
 
To be fair, they’re a lot more forgiving of repaints and remolds in Japan. It’s like how Bandai is able to get a lot of mileage out of, say, the molds for the Zaku II because even lorewise they’re mass-produced with a few customised models (e.g. Char’s red Zaku, Johnny Ridden’s black and red, the Black Tristars’ black and purple).

@WM-R  
I was going for more of reactions in the western front (mostly seibertron.com’s) in the discrepancy between reactions to how hasbro does things and how takaratomy does things. either hasbro should follow takaratomy’s lead in how to do stuff or they wish takaratomy did what hasbro did good on.

@OptimusPrimevil
 
Ah. The only problem is both companies have different methods. For example, I was in Japan when Silas Breakdown was released, and despite being bigger than Lio Convoy/ Thundertron they were still roughly the same price. Meanwhile, if I remember right Hasbro calculates price based on the amount of plastic used in a figure, so Breakdown (using quite a lot more plastic) didn’t fall within the Voyager range.
 
It was the same case with the Jet Vehicons. Despite using more plastic thanks to the wings, they were sold in the same sized box as the regular Vehicons (which wouldn’t have been possible using the blister pack method Hasbro used for their Vehicons.
 
Even when it came to making a new Blast-Off mold, the article mentioned that since G1 Blast-Off was a shuttle, following Hasbro’s lead (i.e. repaint of Slingshot) would likely have soured Japanese fans from buying the Combaticons set. So while it was expensive to create the shuttle Blast-Off, Takara judged it would be worth it.

@WM-R  
has anyone compared figures to how profits go between hasbro and TT? hasbro is more global oriented in their market scope while TT is more japanese oriented.
 
I know the japanese toy market is brutal if you half-ass things but how blurry is the line between mass-consumption and the collectors market there?

@OptimusPrimevil
 
I can tell you that it isn’t unusual to see things that were mass-produced go for collectors’ prices in some places. I saw the Go-Shooter repaint of Nightbeat, for example, go for almost 10, 000 yen at one shop. On another occasion, to my amusement and horror, I once went to a toy store that had just received MP Star Saber and Exhaust, and when I came back the next day they were totally sold out.
 
TakaraTomy really didn’t have a choice but to make molds for Groove and Blast-Off, since the Unite Warriors are sold as expensive sets instead of solo characters. Since Unite Warriors is supposed to be modern remakes of the original G1 toys, if the team doesn’t stick as close as possible to how it appeared in G1, there’s a good chance many fans wouldn’t bother.

@WM-R  
that’s one of the things fans sometimes forget. the UW warriors are sold as a set while the CW ones are (mostly) buy who/what you want/afford.
 
I still can’t figure out why the g2 superion set is slightly more expensive than buying the individual members separately (unless the g2 paint is the source of the price ‘hike’).

 
And speaking of Pretenders.
 

 

 

@Solitude  
that fishing pic

@Solitude  
It’s funny cause I just about the attempt to relaunch Battle Best.
 

@Darth Prime  
i thought this was the relaunch?  

@OptimusPrimevil  
For Takara maybe but notice that even though IDW did a Battle Best mini series it has no apparent connection to Revolution.

@Darth Prime  
not good enough to be in it (not as well-known/popular to warrant inclusion?)

@OptimusPrimevil  
I hear it wasn’t very good.
 
I also heard that maybe Micronus Prime is connected to the Micronauts so what if Oynx Prime was connected to the Beastformers.

@Darth Prime  
Last I heard of BB they were in that one G.I. Joe/TF crossover.
 

@Solitude  
Battle Beasts occupies a unique place in my heart because while I never learned how to play with them with rub signs and all that but I still bought them cause I thought they were cool then years later I found out it was related to Transformers and I was “say whaaaa?!”