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CronoM

@Background Pony #D1D5  
In her defence? Do you have wax in your ears? She in an indefensible evil villain, the idea that she does it for her family is absurd. She is a good and ambitious villain, she’s at her best when shes as evil as possible. Your hatred and derogatory feelings toward certain Chrysalis fans you try speak for is none of my concern BP.
 
Whether or not changelings were an “all evil race” overall is irrelevant, as under Chrysalis’ rule, most of her changelings were born morally challenged with the exception of Thorax since his flashback has yet to be retconned. I like to actually stick with the facts, but thats probably why you avoid address anything that pokes holes in your wax-in-ears reasoning.
 
Peace out.
Background Pony #9CB5
Mate you don’t speak for us.
 
Never said I did. The key words in that first sentence were tend to, because CronoM is far from the first person I’ve seen acting like that in her defense.
 
I’m not buying the “Chrysalis does it for her kids” excuse as the matter of fact, as well as “all evil race” idea.
 
Then I thank you for not blindly adhering to fandom gospel. :)
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@Wechselpony  
Yeah, one of the reasons I fell in love with the changelings (besides there amazing design and gorgeous leader), was that you could pretty much view then however you wanted. Crazy leader bent on conquering equestria, a race of ponyphobes possibly. Similar to ponies except they need love to survive, or they’re able to capitalize on all emotions like anger and hate as well as love. I keep to my mother (or ruler/mother of most) changelings version of chrysalis, but the fact so many people can have different takeaways is amazing.
 
This new insanity chrysalis is pretty fun, shame it’s a childs show and we’ll never see any true acts of insanity upon the populace, but I imagine the fimfiction machine is already working in overdrive on this new take.
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@CronoM
Chrysalis’s fans in particular tend to be like that, possibly because they’d kind of have to be to think of her as highly as they do for the same reasons you do. Considering that you’ve already jumped to a meltdown of delusion (none of the ‘points’ you seem to think you’re making really help your argument) and projection (you claim I’m ignoring your points and making insanely bad arguments while you yourself do exactly that), I’d say I was on the money with that guess. As you’ve made it clear that you have no intention of talking about this like a sensible human being, I’d say there’s no point in spelling out your continued errors in logic.
 
Mate you don’t speak for us.
 
I don’t like new Changedlings either but I bet most are only dissapointed by its “taste like diabetes” radical departure of a design, not anything else.
 
I’m not buying the “Chrysalis does it for her kids” excuse as the matter of fact, as well as “all evil race” idea.
 
I may be one of many of Chrysalis fans who prefer her to be as evil and insane as possible.
Background Pony #9CB5
@CronoM  
Oh, don’t worry, I suspected from the start that you weren’t rational or capable of acknowledging that you were wrong. Chrysalis’s fans in particular tend to be like that, possibly because they’d kind of have to be to think of her as highly as they do for the same reasons you do. Considering that you’ve already jumped to a meltdown of delusion (none of the ‘points’ you seem to think you’re making really help your argument) and projection (you claim I’m ignoring your points and making insanely bad arguments while you yourself do exactly that), I’d say I was on the money with that guess. As you’ve made it clear that you have no intention of talking about this like a sensible human being, I’d say there’s no point in spelling out your continued errors in logic.
 
Luckily, I don’t need to convince you of the truth, it’ll still be there no matter how long you spend railing against it. I just hope you don’t apply the same sense of reason (“What I want MUST be true, and anyone that says otherwise is LYING!!”) to your life in general.
CronoM

@Background Pony #D1D5  
Are you sure? Cause your new arguments hold even LESS water. Are you sure your not trolling? Because I’m being completely honest, I mean your not even addressing most of my points.
 
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Did you forget that Shining Armor was under entrancement and still giving them power?
 
Did you forget taking over Canterlot meant taking out Equestria’s big guns? If they were revealed before the princesses were disabled, Celestia could hunt her down and defeat her on her time, not Chrissi. Quickly taking care of the biggest defenses is a smart choice during an invasion.
 
Did you forget Canterlot wasn’t the only city in Equestria?
 
Seems like your argument has intentional holes in it. Are you sure your not TRYING to create the worst argument possible?
 

 
It doesn’t matter if they would be exposed normally, because they would be entranced like Shining Armor. Fact is Chrysalis fooled everybody including Celestia with her Cadence act, and only acted out of place around Twilight to manipulate her into discrediting herself. Whether she could commit when she wanted too or ponies are more gullible then us salty humans, its to her advantage either way.
 
And as for the imprisonment, like I said before, all villains are written to fail in some way, but if Twilight was traumatized from killing Cadence and didn’t know the way out, that might have been sufficient. I’m not saying she’s flawless, obviously, but your treating her like she’s never made one smart decision, and that’s just silly.  
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“In other words, you pick and choose which pieces of reality you accept and completely ignore the others. Certainly explains your view on this subject.”
 
Isn’t that what your doing? You quite LITERALLY just picked and choosed which points to ignore to suit your argument.
 
Oh, and by the way, your misunderstanding something….I’m not defending Chrysalis per se. I’m defending how Chrysalis was written back then. Or have you forgotten….
 
YOUR THE ONE DEFENDING HOW THEY HANDLED CHRYSALIS DURING THE STARLIGHT VS CHRYSALIS FINALE GENIUS. NOT ME.
 
How dim can you possibly be? You were the one who OBJECTED to me denouncing how bullshit it was the way she was written into uselessness in that episode. YOUR THE ONE DEFENDING THAT EPISODE, NOT ME.
 
Helllllllllllo!!! Earth to BP!!
 
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“yes, that must be it, the only possible reason someone could see problems with anything she’s done is some irrational hatred of the character.
 
No, I’m just not blinded by whatever it is that makes you see a different reality than the one presented in canon.”
 
So exactly when are YOU going to start sticking with reality? Anytime soon? You can’t even handle your own position, you literally just attacked the same badly written episode your defending!! And I’ve had to be the one sticking to the facts.
 
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“Were they monsters and sociopaths, or were they just forced to be that way by their monstrous leader?”
 
The former. Duh. Unless you count the random marriage changeling, literally EVERY single changeling save Thorax was either a snarling beast or a sadistic sociopath while under guise. Even Thorax attested that the changelings were all born monsters and only he was born with any sort of conscience. Since he demonstrated that with his canon backstory, I’m going to stick with the canon backstory, if that’s all right with you.
 
“What makes you think she’s their mother?”
 
She’s the queen bug, and they made it explicitly clear in Thorax’s flashback of his birth that beyond Chrissi, there are are no parents. Since Thorax’s flashback has not been retconned in the least, I’m going to stick with the actual current canon. Something you have a big issue with for some odd reason.
 

 
If you don’t want to make people think your trolling, don’t make up an argument with so many holes in it. They almost seem intentional.
 
Anyway, since your only a background pony, we can’t continue this conversation elsewhere, I don’t want clutter this comment section by continuing this conversation ad infinitum when its clear you’ll exclude facts and reality to suit you, and I’ve lost interest with you and your warped reasoning. For the sake of argument, let’s just agree to disagree.
 
See ya :D
Background Pony #9CB5
@CronoM  
No.
 
I don’t see how capturing Canterlot would of shortened their supply. They aren’t succubi, they feed on ponies directly, all they have to do is keep them alive, entrance them and breed them. And with so much power from draining Canterlot, she would gain power to burn to get creative with her future plans. She was already getting stronger then she’d ever been. Canterlot wasn’t the only city, and I like ambitious villains, especially since she admitted that she wasn’t as strong as Celestia before the infiltration started.
 
Living under a the rule of a sociopathic monster isn’t exactly conductive to love, and the ponies would have inevitably broken free (as slaves always, always do in the end) or the love between them would have continued to dwindle under their miserable conditions. Chrysalis couldn’t force the ponies to love, and knowing for a fact that they were under a changeling regime, I think the ponies would have some trouble trusting anyone they started to care for, don’t you?
 
The fact is Chrysalis’ lies were enough to fool all the princesses, and she only made herself obvious to Twilight so she could discredit her, which worked perfectly. The only part of her plan that fell apart was she sadistically wanted to trick Twilight into killing Cadence, which almost happened. ALL villains are written to fail, but if you have a villain who almost tricked two good guys into killing one another in a kids show, there pretty nefarious and decent at their job.
 
Literally none of that matters. The lie I’m talking about was the one to impersonate the most loved ponies of Equestria, which would inevitably be exposed, largely because the changelings in general are terrible actors, thus rendering the plan utterly moot. The lie you’re talking about was exposed by Chrysalis’s failures to contain her captives (seriously, there was no reason not to kill them herself if that was what she wanted, not leave them unattended and ‘block’ the entrance with three bridesmaids) and would have either ended the same way as the second plan, or as described above.
 
The Throne was from the badly written episode, why would you think I would ever defend it?
 
In other words, you pick and choose which pieces of reality you accept and completely ignore the others. Certainly explains your view on this subject.
 
Do you simply hate Chysalis or something like that?
 
Yes, that must be it, the only possible reason someone could see problems with anything she’s done is some irrational hatred of the character.
 
No, I’m just not blinded by whatever it is that makes you see a different reality than the one presented in canon.
 
A mere observation doesn’t change blood thirsty monsters and sociopathic spies into instant pacifists. I didn’t think I ever needed to explain something so simple. At least Luna went through serious mental issues after being turned back forcefully from going evil on her own power. All the changelings went from sadists to saints in an instant.
 
Were they monsters and sociopaths, or were they just forced to be that way by their monstrous leader? Seriously, the only inkling we had to the nature of any changeling but Chrysalis was through Thorax before the big change, and after, only one had any problem with a new lifestyle. Logically, they weren’t such monsters, they were hungry, and their leader was doing a lousy job of feeding them.
 
Furthermore? They didn’t just randomly decide to be totally different, they had a life-changing option opened up to them. That is why they changed so easily. As said before, it’d have been stupid to refuse like Chrysalis did. Because she’s not that bright to begin with. That is how she ended up making imaginary friends out of logs.
 
And what, did the Thorax explosion turn her infertile as well? Literally all the changelings are her brood children, and it’s been a while and her only new minion is a log. Yeah, that doesn’t sound terrible /s/
 
What makes you think she’s their mother? What do you base that assumption on? Do you actually have any evidence that the swarm isn’t made up of many families, like ponies, or are you just going by popular headcanon? Did it really escape you that your pre-concieved notions and popular fanon about this stuff could just be wrong? Because what we’ve seen indicates that they’re wrong.
 
Are you trying to create the worst possible argument? April fools is over dude.
 
You may not like it, but it doesn’t change reality. Yours are the arguments that don’t hold up when analyzed for a few seconds.
CronoM

@Background Pony #D1D5  
Are you pulling my leg?
 
I don’t see how capturing Canterlot would of shortened their supply. They aren’t succubi, they feed on ponies directly, all they have to do is keep them alive, entrance them and breed them. And with so much power from draining Canterlot, she would gain power to burn to get creative with her future plans. She was already getting stronger then she’d ever been. Canterlot wasn’t the only city, and I like ambitious villains, especially since she admitted that she wasn’t as strong as Celestia before the infiltration started.
 
The fact is Chrysalis’ lies were enough to fool all the princesses, and she only made herself obvious to Twilight so she could discredit her, which worked perfectly. The only part of her plan that fell apart was she sadistically wanted to trick Twilight into killing Cadence, which almost happened. ALL villains are written to fail, but if you have a villain who almost tricked two good guys into killing one another in a kids show, there pretty nefarious and decent at their job.
 
The Throne was from the badly written episode, why would you think I would ever defend it? Do you simply hate Chysalis or something like that?  
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A mere observation doesn’t change blood thirsty monsters and sociopathic spies into instant pacifists. I didn’t think I ever needed to explain something so simple. At least Luna went through serious mental issues after being turned back forcefully from going evil on her own power. All the changelings went from sadists to saints in an instant.
 
And what, did the Thorax explosion turn her infertile as well? Literally all the changelings are her brood children, and it’s been a while and her only new minion is a log. Yeah, that doesn’t sound terrible /s/
 
Are you trying to create the worst possible argument? April fools is over dude.
Background Pony #9CB5
@CronoM  
Hate to break it to you, dude, but Chrysalis was never anything special. Her plans were based on brute force harvest for something she’d wipe out by doing so and lies that would inevitably be exposed, cutting the food supply short. If anything, reality ‘shark-jumped’ for her a few times to make any of that work out as well as it did, all the way up to her hither-to unmentioned all-magic-but-mine-cancelling throne.
 
That, and Starlight and Thorax didn’t ‘just tell them to share,’ they demonstrated proof that it worked before the swarm’s very eyes, easily granting them the one thing Chrysalis was always supposed to bring them. To refuse that boon, as Chrysalis did, would have been plain stupid.
CronoM

@Korora  
Can you blame her? Her army of blood thirsty monsters and sociopath spy children turned into fully reformed hippies in an instant just because one pony and one changeling told them to share. Reality shark-jumped against her so far that its already passed nightmare moon’s home on the frickin moon.
 
As an awesome villain, Chrysalis was done dirty. It’s no wonder she’s barely holding it together.