@Background Pony #C3B3  
It’s not a cartoon, it’s a toy line. MLP: FiM is just a cartoon that’s based on the 2010 toy line.

@Background Pony #550A  
That’s not how the generations in cartoons work

@Background Pony #C3B3  
You don’t know that. It could be set another hundred years after.

@Background Pony #C3B3  
I hope not. After what happened in the finale, this season is just dead to me.

@Background Pony #7558  

 
If it’s g5 it won’t be a continuation

@Smart Heart  
Actually I’m the same person. Still though.

@Background Pony #550A  
Glad you agree, too.

@Smart Heart  
Nnope.  

@Background Pony #7558  
I thought I was the only one.

@Smart Heart  
That makes me so happy. Not many people like my idea but I’m glad you do! I’m still scared though. When the finale airs in North America, the world will just… no. I’m trying to give MLP a break before Saturday so that I don’t see all the horrendous spoilers. I know there will be a Season 10 in the comics but I’m rather scared for that too. I am also a little nervous for G5. I don’t know if it might be a follow-up to G4.

@Background Pony #D75D  
No, I enjoyed every part of it!

@Smart Heart  
:)  
Did you have a favourite part?

@Background Pony #D75D  
Bravo! Bravo!

@Smart Heart  
Hold your horses! I’m not done yet!  
The Last Problem  
Twilight Sparkle is very nervous to start ruling on her own but the princesses tell her that she can do it with her friends. They know that she can help to make the world a better place. But Twilight has just one teensy little problem… how will she rebuild Equestria?! The screen fades to black.
 
[ theme ]
 
Everypony apologizes to Discord for betraying him, for they now know how rough a childhood he had and that he never had any real friends before Flutters. Rarity asks why Discord never told them about all this and Dissy replies that it was because he had completely forgotten about Grog for more than a millennium and traces of memory of him had been coming to him for the last few days. He just didn’t enjoy his old evil chaos (he only pretended to like doing it to impress Grog) before his redemption, and just wanted to cause the playful and silly chaos that he finally had the chance to after Flutters reformed him. However nopony enjoyed it, making him feel misunderstood. Fluttershy understands and everypony agrees to accept Discord as equal.
 
Meanwhile, the former Legion of Doom is spending time alone away from the ponies and feeling rather down. Starlight comes and asks them what is wrong. Tirek says he doesn’t know what to say about what he did. And Chrysalis says that she had no idea Grog was making them all evil. Cozy Glow apologizes and so do Chryssie and Tirek. Starlight tells them that there is a way they could learn about friendship but then remembers the school was destroyed by the evil Student Six. Then she realizes that she hasn’t saved the Student Six! She runs around in panic and tries to find them in the remains of Equestria. While the former LOD is walking around and trying to make new friends, they all get rejected due to all being horrible people in the past. Cozy suggests that they talk to Twi.
 
Meanwhile, Twilight is panicking a lot now because she still doesn’t feel ready. Princess Celestia tells Twilight to remember her teachings. Then a bunch of flashbacks show up from many of the previous episodes. They are all about Celestia teaching Twilight about the magic of friendship. Princess Twilight cries tears of joy looking back on all those pleasant memories. But she is still not ready for the princesses to leave, nor does she have any idea how long it will take to rebuild Equestria! She tries to hold her panics in and take deep breaths in and out. Cel and Lu look at each other concerned. The screen fades to black.
 
Starlight is now running around Equestria’s remains looking for the Student Six. She calls out for all of them but they don’t seem to hear her. So she decides to retrace her steps. She was at Saddle Lake while defeating Grog… then she realizes! They’re at Saddle Lake! They must be in trouble! So Starlight runs to Saddle Lake which is in the opposite direction of where she was running!
 
The former LOD comes to visit the three princesses. Luna asks what they are doing here but Twilight says it’s a long story. Grog is the one who made them evil and they helped her to defeat him. Twilight tells the reformed trio that she is in a panic and trying to rebuild all of Equestria and beyond. She tells them it could take years. But the three suggest they help and Twilight approves. The royal sisters aren’t sure though…
 
Flutters and Dissy and all her animal friends are having a tea party where her animal sanctuary used to be. The other Mane Four (excluding Twi), Spike, Derpy, Tree Hugger, and even Doctor Fauna have joined in as well. Discord brought lots of yummy snacks such as cucumber sandwiches, carrot sticks, and crumpets. Fluttershy is very pleased and shares everything with everyone. She then considers Discord as family, making him blush. He’s so happy that he’s finally accepted. Everypony hugs him. They even hug his Fluttershy plushie.
 
Twi tries to get the sisters to trust in the three former villains but they’re still unsure. They still don’t entirely trust them. They all mention their redeeming qualities. Cozy says she did learn quite a bit from the school. Chryssie says she honestly really misses her hive. And Tirek shyly presents himself and reveals that he talks to his gram-gram in his sleep. He then blushes profusely with embarrassment. Luna suspiciously accepts.
 
Twilight and the trio are walking around Equestria’s remains. But the ponies bring to rebuild it glare at the trio and tell them to run away. They try to run off but Twi says it’s okay and that they’re going to help out. This warms the former LOD’s hearts.
 
Starlight finally gets to Saddle Lake and finds the Student Six drowning. She gasps and the screen fades to black.
 
Starlight dives in to the rescue and saves the teens. Ocellus asks what happened and Starlight says that Grog made them evil and they destroyed their homes. They gasp and become scared that their people will get mad at them but Starlight promises they won’t.
 
The Mane Six, Starlight, Spike, the Student Six, Discord, and the former LOD all get together and come to the princesses who decide it is time for them to leave forever. Twilight gasps and shouts “NO!” with tears in her eyes but the sisters say they have no choice. Twi is speechless.
 
In the remains of Canterlot, the sisters open the portal to limbo where they decide to sleep forever since Equestria doesn’t need them anymore. Rarity tells them they could stay here to help build the new Equestria but Luna tells them that it won’t be Equestria; it will be their land! Twilight tries to stop them but she’s too late… Afterwards, Twilight notices something; her friends have all become Alicorns! They are now ready to rule the new Equestria together.
 
In the aftermath, everypony and every-creature (at least, the ones who have survived the flood) sing a happy song about making the world a better place, as they create the new Equestria. All the residents join in, even the former Legion of Doom! During the song, the Student Six are returned to their homes (Sandbar to his unnamed village, Yona to Yakyakistan, Ocellus to the Changeling Kingdom, Smolder to the Dragon Lands, Silverstream to Mount Aris and Gallus to Griffonstone) to reunite with their families, Princess Cadance and Shining Armour have a new baby (a baby brother to Flurry Heart), Lord Tirek apologizing to the ponies and then being transformed into a different form, Queen Chrysalis apologizing to the changelings and then being metamorphosed into her new form and becoming the princess, and Cozy Glow apologizing to her schoolmates and them all laughing together, and all the ponies apologizing to Discord. The Princess Seven, Spike, Discord, the Student Six, and even the former LOD form a group hug. The final shot shows the Princess Seven’s castle with various stained glass windows like the ones in what used to be Canterlot. The Royal Sisters are shown, but their eyes are now closed as they are now sleeping in limbo. They include some of the ones from Canterlot, as well as defeat of Grog, the coronation of the Princess Mane Seven, and the reformation of the former LOD. The final stained glass window shows the Mane Seven as royal Alicorn princesses. The credits are now shown, but the song is different from the usual ending song.
 
Now some of you may think this is too dark for kids, but remember, this is my story. I cried a little writing this.

@Background Pony #D75D  
That story you told proves that the fans have more imagination and creativity than the well-paid writers of the show!

@Smart Heart  
Thanks!  
The Ending of the End, Part 2  
Twi is still crying, believing this has to be some sort of nightmare. All of a sudden, Gilda, Gabby, Terramar, Sky Beak, Ocean Flow, Garble, Ember, Yona’s and Sandbar’s families, Thorax, and Pharynx are all in Ponyville and tell the Mane Six, Spike, and Starlight that the respective students have been destroying their homes. Suddenly, Discord appears in a flash and the Mane Six, Spike, Starlight, and every-creature else accuse him of brainwashing the Student Six and destroying the Castle and School of Friendship. He tries to convince them but nopony believes him. They all say very hurtful things to Discord, even Fluttershy. Discord is shocked and says he didn’t know about any of it and every-creature glares at him. Dissy states he saved Equestria with Starlight, Trixie, and Thorax, and he was the one who gave Twilight the key of magic for the Tree of Harmony so Twilight got her castle. They all think he betrayed them. Heartbroken, instead of causing chaos, Discord runs off crying. He is too sad to do anything chaotic. After he leaves, Flutters says “good”.
 
Grog is as ready as ever. He is going to flood all of Equestria and beyond, residents along with it. He then begins the great flood.
 
Later Dissy is seen by Saddle Lake crying to himself after how everyone betrayed him. He can’t believe even Fluttershy said such nasty things to him. He keeps getting visions of Grog and becomes scared as he remembers him more and more. He fears that nopony will ever love him again and he partly remembers his tragic childhood. The poor thing then begins to sob like a tiny baby.
 
When Twilight wakes up, she notices she is floating on water. She thinks Discord is doing it and tries to warn everypony. But just before Twilight says anything, Grog appears physically and laughs evilly. He tells everypony that it’s not Discord who’s causing the flood but him. Everypony’s shocked. The screen fades to black.
 
The Ponyville ponies are scared and immediately recognize him as the figure they saw in their nightmares. Applejack says she thought Grog was a myth, but Grog says no and states he created Discord. Here’s the story:
 
Thousands of years ago in the distant past before Equestria, Grog still has his bell and tries to find a good villain to create. So he takes a bunch of animals (including a pony) and forms them all into one - and that’s Discord’s birth. He’s only a baby and is being used as a puppet by Grog to cause harmful chaos instead of silly chaos. Discord does cause chaos around, but it’s only the latter. He never hurts anyone, he’s just having fun.
 
When Dissy is ten years old, he starts to grow his antler, horn, and beard. He is much shier than Fluttershy. He always calls Grog “papa” which enfuriates him. He prays someday he will be free from Grog’s lair. Grog overhears this and (literally) kicks him out of his lair. Discord starts to cry. He tries to make friends but they all ignore him. He meets Celestia and Luna as fillies and asks them to play with him. Filly Luna says she and her sister have better things to do than to play with a hideous deformed monster. Discord pleads them using the names ‘Sellettia’ and ‘Woona’ angering them to the max. They both scream in Discord’s ears and run away. Discord sings a sad slow song about his life.
 
The young draconequus is later seen walking though the cold blizzard created by the Windigos while the three pony tribes were still arguing with each other. He visits the Pegasi and Earth ponies only to be thrown out by them. Then he meets the unicorns who pretend to feel sorry for him and throw him into the orphanage where he is being laughed at by a bunch of unicorn foals. Discord is hungry, cold, and alone, his stomach rumbling much louder than thunder. He stays there for thousands of years until he sees the constellation of Aries, which Grog became when we was banished by Gusty. He tells Discord to do harmful chaos. He does and regrets it very much. He only pretends to like it to impress Grog. And when the flashback ends, Grog states “And to make a long story short, the sisters used the Elements of Harmony to turn him to stone, only to be set free when the CMCs were arguing about him in the Gardens, only to be turned BACK into stone with the Elements, only to be set free with the Elements and reformed by Fluttershy.” Grog knows everything.
 
With Grog’s bell back on, Equestria is now flooding much faster and the characters are frightened. Scenes from all around the map are shown with all the characters we know and love screaming their heads off. Twilight is panicked. Equestria and all its neighbouring lands will be doomed if she doesn’t save them in time. She accuses herself of causing all of this in which she didn’t. As the water rises higher and higher, she tries taking deep breaths but her friends comfort her by singing a song.
 
Discord is still weeping miserably when he notices the water rising. He tries to snap his claw to stop it but he can’t. Grog’s magic is too powerful. The Mane Seven and Spike all hear his scream and Twilight tries to teleport them. But her magic isn’t powerful enough. So she’ll have to fly. Twilight, Rainbow, Flutters, and Spike all fly their friends to Dissy where he is seen drowning. They build a raft made from what’s left of the trees in Sweet Apple Acres and the Everfree Forest for Discord to float on. Discord asks the ponies and Spike why they saved him. Applejack states that they learned the story of Grog and him. As soon as Discord hears the name ‘Grogar’, he starts wheezing and clutching his stomach. Every-creature is terrified of him, but Discord fears him the most, because he’s the one who messed with his childhood. Everyone hears Grog’s evil laugh in the distance.
 
Back in his lair, Chryssie asks Grog, “What if the flood takes your life?” He replies “I don’t care if it takes my life, all I care about is it taking everyone elses! Including yours after you betrayed me!” This shows that Grog is almost unbeatable even without his bell, and with his bell, he is actually unbeatable. The centaur, changeling, and Pegasus filly beg him to forgive them, he just can’t hurt them. Grog teleports him and them to Ponyville where the Mane Seven, Spike, and Discord are.
 
Grog is open and ready to kill. He tries to get Lord Tirek to drain the magic, Queen Chrysalis to drain the love, and Cozy Glow. But they refuse so he purposely knocks them into the water, where they will drown. But Twilight rushes to save them and asks if they are okay. Grog hushes Twilight and tells her that he’s the one who gave them their evil powers. Everypony is shocked, even the former LOD. Let me tell you about this more clearly:
 
Grog created Tarturus, Cerberus, and all of Equestria and beyond’s foulest creatures.  
He gave Princess Luna the dark magic to become Nightmare Moon.  
He created Discord (which we all know).  
Chrysalis and her changelings were normal creatures until Grog made them evil.  
King Sombra was a normal pony until Grog made him evil.  
Tirek was a normal centaur until Grog made him evil.  
The Dazzlings were normal creatures until Grog made them evil.  
He gave Stygian the dark magic to become the Pony of Shadows.  
The Storm King was a normal creature until Grog made him evil.  
Cozy Glow was a normal pony until Grog made her evil.  
In short, he is the one who gave birth to all evil.  
The former LOD is shocked and furious with Grog that he tricked them. He continues on to try fight the Mane Seven. They ‘friendship up’ and use their powers to try to defeat the cruel ram, but he’s far too powerful. Twilight doesn’t know what they can do. Applejack uses all her strength to get try to get Grog’s bell off but it doesn’t work. Her friends help her and it works. It sinks to the very bottom of the flood (which is extremely deep). Grog is mad that he can’t swim (hence the myth that sheep shrink in water) but he still carries on. The ponies ‘friendship up’ again, but they still can’t defeat Grog. Twilight then says “You know what girls? I think Grogar wins.” The screen fades to black.
 
Discord has an idea; he gives up the magic for the ponies to defeat Grog. Flutters tries to decline but Discord insists. Fluttershy asks him what will happen to him but Dissy starts giving away all the magic that makes up who he is. This causes him to split into the many creatures he used to be, including a unicorn stallion. Fluttershy wakes the stallion up, calling him Discord. The stallion replies “Uh. Who’s Discord?” The last thing he remembers is being held captive by ‘goat-man’ and then he’s here. Flutters bursts into tears. Twi tells Fluttershy that this isn’t Discord and that they need to defeat Grog now. But Fluttershy says they need to hear Grog’s side first. They ask him his story and he says the reason he invented evil was because he was bored of all the ‘good’ in the world before them. Everypony tries to convince him to reform (which he clearly doesn’t deserve), even the former LOD. Grog is torn but he decides not to reform. The ponies all ‘friendship up’ and now with Discord’s magic and the help of the former LOD, they can defeat Grog. They use it to banish him deep, deep underground, where he will eventually suffocate. The flood disappears.
 
Equestria is finally saved, but all that’s left of Equestria is a trail of broken buildings, cut-down trees, and of course Grog’s bell which is now broken by the power of friendship. The Royal Sisters come and thank the ponies for saving everyone. The ponies give the magic back to Dissy and he tries to tell the sisters his story, but they hush him and tell him they heard it all. They finally apologize to Discord and promise to treat him as equal to them. They tell Twi she’s finally ready to rule Equestria and she smiles. The credits begin but with a different song than the usual credits.

@Background Pony #D75D  
Hmm. So far so good! And a nice callback to Return of Tambelon!

@Smart Heart  
Okay. So…  
The Ending of the End, Part 1  
The episode takes place in Grogar’s lair with the Legion of Doom reading the book on how to use Grogar’s bell. Unfortunately for them, Grog (my nickname for Grogar) catches them and he is outright shocked and furious. The three blush with embarrassment. Queen Chrysalis tells Grog that they wanted to betray him and take over Equestria. Grog grabs both the book and the bell, ripping the former apart and putting the latter on him. Now he is more powerful than ever, and he finally reveals his plan… to flood all of Equestria and beyond. The Legion of Doom laughs nervously like they did in the premiere. The screen fades to black.
 
[theme]
 
Discord has a nightmare sequence where the Mane Six use the magic of friendship to turn him back into stone. He wakes up and finds himself in his comfy upside-down bed with his Fluttershy plushie. Discord realizes that he’s scared and fears that they will turn him into stone again. But they don’t have the Elements of Harmony, so how would they do it? Oh, of course! The Magic of Friendship! Discord now feels the same way Princess Luna did in Do Princesses Dream of Magic Sheep?, and feels horrible about himself. He then teleports himself to Fluttershy’s Cottage in Ponyville, but notices that she isn’t there. He then sees horrible visions of Grogar and comments that he ‘somehow recognizes that face but can’t put his lion paw on it’. He then literally melts on Fluttershy’s sofa, waiting for her to come.
 
Discord isn’t the only one who ‘sees’ Grog. In Canterlot, Celestia also ‘sees’ him and asks Luna if there is something wrong with herself, because she keeps seeing this ‘blue goat guy’. Even they only know of Grog in legend. Princess Luna comments that she might just be seeing things, but then she gets a vision of him as well. She thinks she must have ‘hit her head harder than she thought’, and Celestia replies “must be a coincidence or something,” and they carry on, not knowing about the danger lying ahead of them.
 
In the Crystal Empire, Princess Cadance is also seeing a vision of Grog. She has heard of him, but she never read the legend. She tells the crystal guards that she keeps seeing things, but they believe that she is making complete nonsense. Cadance says “maybe it is just my imagination”, and carries on. She sees another vision of Grogar, but still walks, thinking that it is just her imagination.
 
Other characters get visions of Grog too. The Young Six, the Pillars, the Cutie Mark Crusaders, and from all around Equestria and beyond. Like Discord, Celestia, Luna, and Cadance, they all believe they are just imagining, knowing little about the danger about to happen.
 
Back in Grog’s lair, he is telling Tirek, Chryssie, and Cozy Glow that since they tried to betray him, he is going to take over Equestria without them, with some new henchmen. He requests that the LOD kidnap ‘the pony and five creatures’ from ‘that friendship school’. And when they come back, Grog is going to use his extremely powerful magic to make them evil, or else he will obliterate the LOD (Legion of Doom). The three are scared and decide to behave Grog, not wanting to be obliterated. So with his new power, Grog teleports his LOD to Ponyville in the dead of night. The Student Six are sleeping in the School of Friendship. Cozy, Tirek, and Chryssie are forced to sneak in and kidnap them all. Chrysalis takes Ocellus and Gallus, Cozy Glow takes Silverstream and Sandbar, and Tirek takes Yona and Smolder. The students are all fast asleep so they don’t even know they’re there. The three so-called villains are very nervous. The screen fades to black.
 
Later, the Mane Six, Starlight Glimmer, and Spike returning from a Friendship Quest. They are the only ones who never saw a vision of Grogar. They just came out of an unknown land from the west and are very tired. They talk about this new race they discovered - the ouroboros. Their snakelike bodies are positioned in a circle and they appear to be biting their tails. The ponies and dragon talk about the ouroboros mentioning ‘goat-man’ and they are all very confused. But they completely ignore it and the cast sings a song about how good friends they are. They all love each other and will do what they can to help each other. They are brave and walk through all sorts of weather, even when they are out of breath.
 
Cozy, Chrysalis, and Tirek bring the still-sleeping Student Six to Grog and he hypnotizes them into doing what he asks. Grog congratulates them on their success, and says that he is going to use the Young Six to help him to take over Equestria. He then teleports the Student Six back to where they were sleeping, to try to surprise Twilight and her friends.
 
Discord comes to Canterlot and sees the princess sisters glaring at him. He says that he had absolutely nothing to do with their visions and that he saw them too. The princesses don’t believe him and walk away from him. Discord doesn’t know where Fluttershy is and is very sad he has no friends at the moment. He feels lonely and goes back to his home in Chaosville. He wonders if he ever will be turned back into stone, and a tear drops from his eye. He sees another vision of Grog again and his memory of him becomes more clear. He remembers his name as ‘Gregory or something’, and feels terrible for all the terrible things he did. He remembers his childhood and how nopony wanted to be friends with him because he was hideous. Discord is too sad to even cause any chaos. He cuddles his Fluttershy plushie and weeps in bed. This isn’t the first time we see him crying, but it is the first time we hear him crying. The screen fades to black.
 
The Student Six have woken up but they aren’t acting anything like themselves. It’s like they’ve gone completely out-of-control. They are completely and utterly under Grog’s control and start to trash Ponyville, confusing and frightening most of the Ponyville ponies. Grog and his LOD see this in the crystal ball and Grogar laughs maniacally. His plan has finally worked! But that’s only the beginning of his plan. The rest will be a whole lot worse. He will get other ponies to trash more parts of Equestria and beyond, and have them destroyed for good, and later flood the whole map. Tirek doesn’t think this is a good idea, but Grog is positive it will work.
 
In the mean time, the Young Six begin trashing most of the places in Equestria and beyond, including their own homes. Their inhabitants are very scared and confused. It’s like they have completely lost their minds!
 
Gallus is destroying all the griffons’ houses in Griffonstone, and even though the griffons are often selfish, the more notable ones (Gilda and Gabby) are very concerned for him. However, the other griffons are just mad that their own houses were destroyed.  
Silverstream is destroying both Hippogriffia and Seaquestria on Mount Aris. her parents and brother yell at her to stop in the name of the queen, but Silverstream completely ignores them.  
Smolder is spitting ice on the Dragon Lands making all the dragons there freeze. Garble tells the other teenage dragons that “this is nothing like Smolder”.  
Yona is smashing all of Yakyakistan and eventually causes an avalanche just like in Not Asking for Trouble. She uses “yak smash” as an excuse.  
Sandbar’s family tries to get his attention, but he destroys the whole house in the unnamed village in Equestria, leaving it for nopony to live.  
And Ocellus is absorbing the love from each of her fellow changelings in the Changeling Kingdom and returns to her original changeling form (which is just a slightly modified version of the usual original changeling form).  
They are all under the control of Grogar, who uses his magic to teleport them to his lair. They then join his LOD and they all laugh evilly (except the former LOD).
 
The exhausted Mane Seven and Spike are now taking the Friendship Express. They sleep so deeply that the train passes Ponyville and they wake up in Dodge City instead! They encounter Cherry Jubilee and some other pony residents who are all concerned. They also ask them if they saw the ‘goat-man’. Rainbow Dash thinks this must be some kind of joke. Luckily, they are no longer tired. They take the train back to Ponyville and see an absolutely shocking sight: the Castle of Friendship and the School of Friendship have been completely destroyed!
 
*To be continued…*

@Background Pony #7558  
Oh yes, please!

@Smart Heart  
You want to hear my version of the finale?

@Background Pony #F71B  
Too true.

The finale is pointless. ’Nuff said.

@Smart Heart  
Me too. :( I know it was the final season but you don’t want to end by half-assing your work. To be fair, not everything that the finale and epilogue offered to me was complete disapproval, but with a fate that these three have been given and that Discord still exists as a “good guy”, yeah no. I want to give them a better ending.

@Red-Supernova  
I hate it when writers become that lazy.

Not to me. The show writers should have explored that. But it seems like its up to us now.