Feydrid Kearn

Crusades Historian
@Pagan  
I’m keeping that image… for anytime I’m feeling down or need a laugh. Bless you for this, Pagan. XD
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@evocov  
The mods notice, they just don’t care.
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@evocov  
He’s actually here much less frequently as of late.
 
But i guess this is a special occasion.
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@Background Pony #A17E  
I know exactly why he’s talking about “power” or “punching Up\Down”. It’s because SJW’s in general like TUA here are indoctrinated into the idea that everything in life needs to be viewed through the lens of Power Dynamics. It still comes from a roundabout idea that “punching down” against black people is really bad, because black people in general don’t have the power to protect themselves from everything, even criticism.
 
In another context, his idea is a case of White Supremacy. He feels White people are better than everyone else, but he feels bad for the inferior black people that can’t defend themselves. Because to him, black people are seen as having the mental\emotional capacity of children and he feels like he’s defending them from a conspiracy of evil White people.
 
In short, him\SJW’s are just covert White Supremacists with a guilty conscience for all the other inferior races.
 
Really makes you think when you start deconstructing ideas of Far Leftist propaganda.
Pagan

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@evocov  
the best part is he accused me of searching for random images to complain on when I literally wound up there from the link he posted in this thread after he was already throwing a tantrum on that random image.
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fangs
maybe if he doesnt like the way the site is he shouldnt use it :<
evocov
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@Pagan
 
J e s u s, I can’t say TUA has changed at all these past few years, but damn how are the mods not taking notice of that kind of behavior?
Pagan

Gay Viking
@evocov  
Oh you should of seen his reaction to the fact the mods didn’t heed to his every beck and call.  
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@TexasUberAlles
 
I’m honestly pretty confused why someone who hates the site and the fandom chooses to spend all his time lecturing people about how much better everything would be under such orwellian moderateship as you wish it to be.
Background Pony #B9F7
Let me bring one .runet meme for this situation.  
Here:  
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Feydrid Kearn

Crusades Historian
@TexasUberAlles  
Pffffffffft! You think I can’t handle this? I live for drama and politics, hell my household is nothing but the latter of those two things. No, I came here for exactly that. I gotta thank you for that, because without individuals as hypocritical and delusional as yourself, I’d have to retire. XD
 
A mind requires a grindstone just as much as a sword does. What better way to sharpen your mental blade then by testing it against other living blades?
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fangs
texas uber alles offends me because his name is referencing deutschland uber alles and im jewish therefore his arguments are invalid hehe ^v//w//v ^
 
im not really offended im just shitposting dont hurt me :3
Background Pony #6112
@TexasUberAlles  
So now you’re basically reduced to throwing ad hominems left and right?
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@McNikk  
Perhaps the artist wasn’t aware?
 
Deliberate shitposting is his entire thing, he’s zero percent circumspect about it.  
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@Feydrid Kearn  
You definitely sound like someone who is not at all offended or butthurt in any way over the incredibly important issue of [shuffles papers] “someone doesn’t like an image you like”.
 
Maybe you should just block the tag if you can’t handle the comments people make about images like this.
 
@Zerowinger  
But I absolutely, cannot stand sanctimonious, holier-than thou, church lady moral policing bullshit about what people can and cannot like and laugh at on this site
 
Where do you stand on sanctimonious, holier-than thou, church lady moral policing bullshit about what people can and cannot dislike and jeer at on this site? Because, uh, depending on your answer I may have some very bad news for you.
 
@Background Pony #CBAD  
I’m just gonna be entirely dismissed because I decided to check a box to be a Background Pony™
 
Pretty much, yeah.
Background Pony #C096
@McNikk  
Furthermore on the case of the dark humor of the picture.
 
This image also clearly appeals to actual racists since people like stonetoss are retweeting it.
 
And so did the song I linked. Hitler liked dogs and other animals. Does that mean that liking dogs or other animals is bad?
 
A picture that blatantly evokes racist stereotypes.
 
True, this picture evokes blatant racist stereotypes.
 
For both Applejack and the Zecora.
 
However, because there is the powerplay implied in the picture, people who identify with the zebras will dislike it while people who identify with Applejack will like it. Yet in its humor, the picture makes fun of both Applejack and Zecora by completely altering their original personality.
 
Applejack is a hardworking, honest, individualist pony who’d gag at the idea of using slaves on Sweet Apple Acres. Here she is depicted as the stereotypical Southern plantation owner. A slouching, lazy person with power who enslaves the weak to the work she doesn’t want to do.  
On the other hand, Zecora is a fiercely zebra with a strong sense of right-and-wrong and who will strongly defend herself when she believes she’s been unjustly wronged. Here, she and the other zebras are depicted as the stereotypical American black slaves (by those who want to reduce the horrors of slavery in America). Completely apathetic or even content about their unjust situation, even able to take breaks and enjoy themselves, all thanks to the guiding hoof of their slave-driving pony masters.
 
THAT is what’s funny to me.
 
The impression I get from art like this is that he clearly does not respect the people he is making fun of.
 
This is because you empathize and identify with the zebras, so it appears that the comedy some find in the picture (artist included) comes from making fun of the zebras. This is not (always) the case, but that is YOUR interpretation of what the artist intended to do with this picture.
 
There are people out there who WILL unironically enjoy this as a positive representation of slavery. But that is not everyone’s interpretation, certainly not yours or mine, and I believe neither it is Anontheanon’s interpretation.
Feydrid Kearn

Crusades Historian
@McNikk  
You have no right to suppress anyone. I don’t care what they are, they have the right to be that. Example: Muhammad Ali, he was a segregationist, look it up, his reasonings were as solid as his punches. Was he racist? Did he hate White people? No, go listen to him talk about it and you’ll see that plain as day.
 
Don’t judge a book until you read it from start to finish, and don’t criminalize thoughts. You have a good night.
Background Pony #1649
@McNikk  
Never judge a work of fiction by its audience. That’s a classic mistake. Someone even used imagery from Bioshock Infinite, an extremely anti-racist game, to promote keeping foreigners out of the US once. Judge a work by its content. This one is, as has been said many times, not to be taken seriously. The one being stereotyped the most here is Applejack, as virtually nothing in the picture is something she’d actually do. The artist knows this. That’s part of the joke here. I don’t know if you’re aware of what a “shitpost” is, but they are by definition not serious. And as I said to someone else earlier, if it doesn’t make you laugh, that just means it’s not your kind of comedy.
 
I don’t laugh much at Rick and Morty or South Park, but I don’t accuse those shows of promoting every bad thing they portray either. And they portray a lot worse.
 
As for being worried by the reactions, if artists were only allowed to create work that could not possibly be misunderstood, I doubt they’d ever get to create anything.
Background Pony #1BA0
I love it when you get offended over the most minor shit
[meanwhile, literally one minute later]
BUT THAT DOESNT SOLVE THE ISSUE THAT THIS SHIT EXISTS AND. MODS ARW HYPOCRITES!!! D:
Please tell me more about how totally not-offended you are that someone is [checks notes] criticising an image you like.
I don’t know if you’re confused or what, but he was doing a rather close impression of you. Not his own reaction to anything. Because with lines like
the actual artist of this garbage image
this is just a collection of dumb racist/classist stereotypes deliberately intended to cause the kind of arglebargle that the mods here claim they want to prevent.
Note the lack of “…Except that racist, antisemitic, etc. images are definitely allowed, because it’s totally a joke, maaaaannnnn”.
racist shit like that dumb Applejack plantation shitpost, […] like all the racist shitheads that goosestep out of the woodwork every time garbage like that gets posted aren’t really racist shitheads
you’re coming off as immensely hot-headed over a caricature that’s purposely made to allude a certain unsavory time period. A tongue-in-cheek “naughty, naughty”, not unlike when kids say “penis” like it’s a funny word. Frankly, anyone complaining about this is treating this as some kind of superweapon that’s turning everyone racist, or that it’s so IMMENSELY OFFENSIVE just by existing, is just plain immature behavior.
 
As others have pointed out:  
-this isn’t directly stating that the zebras are under any forced labor  
-they aren’t being harmed, and there’s no striking instruments/weapons  
-they don’t have any injuries  
-there’s a qt li’l zeeb filly just walking along with her parents, and a Zebra relaxing and eating some [stereotypical] food  
-everyone knows slavery is bad, and no one here has condoned it  
-it’s not calling for any kind of harm upon anyone, nor suggesting that slavery should return
 
So what exactly is going on here that is such a grave danger to someone’s health or well-being?  
The only thing this whole fiasco did was reveal a few terrible people (and I’m not even talking about the racists), and either nearly or did drive away a few great artists, on top of gaslighting some other unrelated people.  
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General reminder to everyone: This word and whatever you choose (this image included) to be offended by only has as much power as you give it.  
As an aside, I highly recommend you watch Dave Chappelle’s Sticks And Stones special.  
But y’know. I’m just gonna be entirely dismissed because I decided to check a box to be a Background Pony™.  
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@McNikk  
You talk like this image is hard to interpret but it’s clearly not.
Also, this art depicts Applejack as smugly satisfied and clearly in power
Since not everyone’s gonna bother reading the comments, there have been a few foreign people who actually have had trouble interpreting it like us Americans. The watermelon bit, and the slavery bit. (Somewhat fuzzy on the latter. I’ve done a lot of different things.)  
As for the latter bit, I actually saw it as satisfied and relaxed. Yes, the slavery implication was glaringly there for me, but even then it wasn’t a “smug” look to me. More just “glad” that they’re doing the work that needs doin’.
McNikk

Look, it’s 2 in the morning where I am and I’m done arguing but I just want to clarify something. The only reason this art gets any kind of reaction out of me is because I’ve seen plenty of similar images and similar humor from openly and blatantly prejudiced people and communities. I’ve seen communities that go from posting humor like this to going on about crime statistics and “degeneracy”. These types of people are attracted to communities where humor like this is prominent. I don’t think a bunch of pixels on a screen are causing direct harm but it could cause indirect harm if this sort of subject matter is normalized.
Feydrid Kearn

Crusades Historian
@Zerowinger  
Hear, hear!
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3-3/4" Army Man Fan
You know, for the record, I don’t even really care that much about this image - I got far more of a chuckle out of the various edits it’s spawned.
 
But I absolutely, cannot stand sanctimonious, holier-than thou, church lady moral policing bullshit about what people can and cannot like and laugh at on this site. Everyone has a right to enjoy whatever kind of image they want on this site, no matter offensive, vulgar, gross, or downright fucking weird it happens to be.
 
You think it’s dumb, offensive, gross, stupid, bizarre, or just simply fucking sucks? That’s what the downvote button is for. Or heck, say why you think it’s shit art in the comments (but within the rules, I guess) - and if you want to tear down shit art in the comments, at least try to be half-way creative about it.
 
But don’t go around acting like you’re on some great moral crusade saving the world from evil because you dislike or downvote an image you don’t like on a site about MLP fanart. I mean, I don’t see anyone making appeals sanitary public health when they downvote a messy diaper fetish pic.
Background Pony #C096
There’s a big difference between interpreting an inspirational song with vague lyrics and making art that blatantly evokes racist stereotypes.
 
This is true. However, it completely misses my previous point. People will see what they want to see.
 
This picture evokes “Unfortunate Implications” about racism, slavery and other nasty subjects. However, how these topics are interpreted is entirely up to the viewer of the image. The interpretation is exclusively done by the viewer, not the artist. There is no direct message that the picture is trying to convey as political cartoons often do by assigning dialogue or words to specific aspects or characters of their composition.
 
For example. From what I can tell, people believe that this image is wrong at worst or irresponsible at best. They either interpret that the picture was created by the author with the intention of transmitting the message “This is how I think things should be like” or “I find the scene depicted in this picture to be funny in the sense that I find the suffering of (the implied) black slaves funny”. But the picture doesn’t transmit that message on itself at all. The picture doesn’t suggest that this is how things should be like, or that Applejack is right or wrong for looking so satisfied with the situation. The picture only is able to transmit an idea of what is ocurring, and all of the interpretation about it is done by the viewer.
 
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This is an image depicting a white, female slaveowner interacting with one of her slaves. Is the picture racist for depicting slavery? The picture takes no sides on the issue, it only depicts the reality of the situation.  
Does the picture imply that either side is wrong? Is it the white woman for participating in the cruelty of slavery, or the slave, for doing whatever her owner is admonishing her for doing?  
It’s not a case of what the picture implies, but what the viewer takes from the picture. Who they identify with.
 
Similarly, there is an implication that the humor found in the picture by some is at the expense of those that are shown suffering in it (the zebras). While I am certain that there are people who will take unbridled pleasure in seeing zebras (and black people) depicted as slaves, that is not the case for everyone.  
Everyone sees something different, and everyone sees what they want to see.
 
For example, some people will see an entirely different situation what what other people believe is occurring, as shown by https://derpibooru.org/images/2277485. Should the picture or the artist themselves be condemned for what people see in their art? I think not.
Feydrid Kearn

Crusades Historian
@zinitrad  
Google is (mostly) your ally.
 
@McNikk  
  1. I never said this image was politically neutral, did I? This image is politically incorrect, thus it is political. Try to keep up here.
     
  2. Fair point there, but this does give you a good insight into what the common MLP fan thinks of politically incorrect humor.
     
  3. You haven’t said you want to ban or remove this image, but you certainly don’t want others to enjoy it at all, hense why you are here whining about how “horrible” it is. Don’t play dumb with me. Anything else you’d like to discuss?
Background Pony #6112
@McNikk  
You didn’t say it was shitty art, you directly brought stonetoss into that and it really seemed like you were doing guilt by association (especially with your reply) something that is common on twitter.
 
You’re right to think it might be shitty art (and by that I assume you mean the subject, since the art itself is pretty good) , or that you don’t get the joke, but then you know, just downvote and leave.
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@McNikk  
Technically no. The rules say you should filter it if you don’t want to see it. Repeatedly bitching about it is a violation of rule 4.