Chrysalis needs that and proof she’s not going to be shanked/forced to be nice to people she despises. She doesn’t need to like or even care about the mane six as anything but enemies, she needs to not be suspicious and distrustful of anything that resembles the things she doesn’t like.

But I think with that mindset, the convo can end here.

@Starswirl
HA! Gotcha!
More like a TRAITOR gets drained of love in front of the others to make an example.
So yeah smiley evil buggies!!!

Then look back at how she treated the Mean Six

keep in mind that changelings who don’t do as told (cough Thorax cough)get drained of love and life right in front of the others to make an example.

if they have no remorse they get turned to stone

@GrimChariot

@Background Pony #6A69

Discord willingly sided with Tirek and hurt thousands, then brought four of the most dangerous criminals, three of whom were contained and no longer a threat, together to endanger the entire nation and either A) sacrifice them for Twilights ego, or B) allowed one to be killed and torment the Crystal empire again, and broke how many laws to boost twilights ego.

The MLP is intended for children, especially girls from 3 to 11 years of age and thus it is natural that the writers should create an “innocent” world with villains and heroes / heroines without reflecting more deeply on either background or consequences, to entertain and then show “examples” of friendship, acceptance, tolerance and learning - most often without going too deep. They do not want an “adult” world for the children, and often end up creating varied impressions that for adults can be a little too shallow.

But the Grogar / Discord deception was simply too much, and far too gross even by the standards set by the MLP G1-G4, here the writers had completely forgotten, and not realized that TV viewers live in a society where children have to learn what is right and wrong, and which is not allowed or possible to accept. Sombra was a frightening and brutal tyrant who gives the word “tyrant” new meaning. Chrysalis was a usurper who represented the opposite of what Celestia is, as a negative reflection of the world of ponies. Discord was funny, annoying and a good example of uncontrolled chaos and anarchy. All the villains represented something that the audience could recognize and learn about, even though Cozy Glow’s age was a grave mistake.

What happened in season 9 was simply unbelievably stupid. Instead of making sure that Discord can be neutralized by Grogar who could be his “father” who can defend himself against such a “deus ex machina” as Discord is, in the movie he was completely excluded because the level of strength becomes too uneven. Instead, Discord was turned into a villain, and created a big mess, his reformation was called into question, and his actions could not be accepted. Even in Europe, where one is far more liberal and thus less strict than in the US, this is something that the general moral standard cannot accept, and is punishable. Discord risked his life to release the Mane 6, but it was a big mistake to let the royal sisters listen to him and then not get him punished. This produces bad impressions on the fans and viewers.

This makes the whole thing with the petrification of the Terrible Trio who had undoubtedly tried to kill the Mane 6 and wanted to mutilate Spike to complete the work, controversial. Towards the end, the viewers were completely without sympathy for Discord, the writers did not realize it until it was too late, and the eternal debate about the Grogar / Discord deception becomes inevitable. Discord must be punished, for the good of all. Tempest Shadow was forgiven by the princesses in the movie, but we would have liked to have seen a trial where she confesses to her crimes and is acquitted, in exchange for her promises to help those who were attacked by the Storm king. We should also have seen something similar with Starlight Glimmer.

This is what the writers in Seasons 4-9 had forgotten; they did not realize that world development entailed a modern society with law and code of justice. They had chosen to continue with medieval practice from Seasons 1-3 when the princesses were practically the law by acting as jury, judge and executioner. Without realizing that when the created world is brought so close to human beings’ own world, it also means that one must include “adult” things such as law and legislation. Season 1-3 with the exception of the Crystal Empire was almost only about three solitary cities.

Children in our world must be able to understand the difference between right and wrong. Thus, the whole case of Cozy Glow and then the Grogar / Discord deception became much more difficult to understand, the writers had lost perspective on morality and ethics from a human point of view.

The comic here develops over time, so the outcome is uncertain.

I would have rejected the script and asked for a new one where the original Grogar could put Discord out of the game — raw power is not needed

Which is why Chrysalis will be much harder to reform than the others, during “Frenenemies” she was the one who held back, while Tirek and Cozy Glow

@Background Pony #D8B8
Again, really bad writing. They made trio symphatetic and hinted for their reformation in Frenemies, only to turn by 180 degree in finale and turned them into a murderous nutjobs.

Thus, the whole case of Cozy Glow and then the Grogar / Discord deception became much more difficult to understand, the writers had lost perspective on morality and ethics from a human point of view.

This makes the whole thing with the petrification of the Terrible Trio who had undoubtedly tried to kill the Mane 6 and wanted to mutilate Spike to complete the work, controversial.

@Background Pony #6A69

Discord willingly sided with Tirek and hurt thousands, then brought four of the most dangerous criminals, three of whom were contained and no longer a threat, together to endanger the entire nation and either A) sacrifice them for Twilights ego, or B) allowed one to be killed and torment the Crystal empire again, and broke how many laws to boost twilights ego.