GrimChariot

@Manerg  
Pal I’m not going to try to convince an abusive parent of anything.
 
I’m calling child support on them and putting legal action in affect, their lives and reputation be damned.
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GrimChariot

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Regardless of my acknowledgement of his consistency in villains, he’s still a horrible person who should never have kids.
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always obeying them without question.
 
Thats some f@cked up logic you found there to defend your hateboners.  
Shit like THAT https://theconversation.com/new-research-shows-parents-are-major-producers-of-child-sexual-abuse-material-153722 happen can you say that the child should still shut up and respect it? lmao dude.
 
her parents probably decided that she deserved her punishment and moved on.
 
Also on both Tirek and cozy occasions how telling your child that they are a failure or they are going to be a failure can help or be discipline by any moral and logical margins?
 
Do i even need to explain how fragile a child’s cerebral capacity is and what this can do to their lifes later on?  
I know better than anyone my father has ASPD I know what a pile of shit parent is when i see one.
 
Another f@cked up logic. However considaring their toxic onfluence on cozy and their constand neglect that wouldnt be fardetched tbh.
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@GrimChariot  
 
Cozy Glow’s father literally tells her that her cutie mark isn’t going to get her a real job and that she’ll be wasting her time playing games, and they were not abusive. Her father did not beat or yell at her for his own sadistic pleasure. He did it to discipline her, and Cozy Glow deserved it. That is not child abuse. Cozy Glow should feel scared and bad for what she had done at home and at school. I believe children should fear and love their parents, always obeying them without question.
 
Also, there’s no evidence that Cozy’s parents didn’t come looking for her when she left. It’s possible they were searching for her the whole time. If that’s the case, then once Cozy was sentenced to tartarus, her parents probably decided that she deserved her punishment and moved on.
 
 
Tirek’s father told the legion academy to reject him. I didn’t miss anything.
 
Tirek, Chrysalis, and Cozy Glow all chose to be evil on their own, and they were punished for their crimes.
GrimChariot

@Manerg  
“My parents were abusive and neglectful” not “didn’t like my cutie mark.”
 
And yes, they were, because while you stated you have the parental ideals of a 1920’s beast in a previous page, they failed at every step.
 
“My father has belittled every achievement of my life, has openly disgraced me before the entire nation and actively insults and berates me for attempting to live up to my position.” Not “My dad didn’t let me go to military camp”
 
You missed literally everything for the surface level, straw that broke the camels back moment.
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“My parents didn’t like my cutie mark, so therefore, they made me evil.” No they didn’t.  
“My father wouldn’t let me go to a military academy. He made me evil.” No he didn’t.  
“My boyfriend left me when he got his cutie mark. He made me evil.” No he didn’t.  
“I am not getting as much attention as Celestia. She made me evil.” No she didn’t.
 
Chrysalis, Tirek, and Cozy Glow had a free will, a moral agency, and they chose to be evil. Everyone is responsible for their own actions, not the actions of those who willingly became evil because you did something to them. Even if they did influence Chrysalis, they didn’t tell her to conquer Equestria. Nobody can make you evil (unless they brainwash you, and none of the legion of doom was possessed or brainwashed). It’s all a matter of choice (Chrysalis, Tirek, and Cozy Glow all have a moral agency).
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@Manerg  
That’s not what I see. She started out to be a friendly changeling and then those three made her evil and a psychotic villain when they killed her children. So is there fault that they made her this way and try to attempt to take over equastria countless times! And now twilight is doing all she can trying to reform her, which it should’ve happen in the season final, but no they have to turn her to stone instead, not want to bother to know her past sad life.
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@Background Pony #E3C7  
Its called a “hateboner” Already two famous individuals in that matter have replied to you my friend no reason to pay them any attention.
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@Manerg  
Maybe you’re not supposed to.
 
Maybe you’re supposed to understand rather than sympathize.
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I mostly ignore ponies who say stuff like “shut up” or “go away” instead of trying to defend their positions, myself.
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The ponies and griffon never made Chrysalis claim anything, just as Sunburst never made Starlight claim that cutie marks are evil. Chrysalis was never forced to walk down the wrong path, and those ponies and griffon cannot control her. She chose it out of her own free will, just like Tirek and Cozy Glow. Also, there’s no evidence that this destruction is what caused Chrysalis to reject Starlight’s friendship offer.
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You had me in the first half, ngl
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@Manerg  
Well unfortunately for you I think chrysalis deserves sympathy. Is all the fault of those two ponies and a griffin that made her claim friendship is evil and walk down a dark genocide path,which is the reason why she rejected starlight offer of friendship in the end of season 6. How can you not feel sorry for her loss because of that!?😠😠
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Логика и мотивация Кризалис начинает отслаиваться от канона сериала и превращается в откровенную головопушку (как бы смешно это утверждение не звучало в отношении фанатского коммикса)  
Пони обманули,  
пони напали,  
пони убили нескольких оборотней,  
пони обесценили “мирный” путь подменышей,  
пони обратили на себя негативное внимание,  
пони перешли в разряд врагов и “корзинок с едой”
 
Вывод - дружба плохая…_
 
 
А почему не - “Я не более не допущу смертей моих подменышей, для этого я возьму пони под контроль и заставлю их послужить во благо улья.” ? Ведь так и было в сериале - захват власти для подчинения пони и питания трутней.
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@Background Pony #A190  
That’s why you’re supposed to ignore them
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@Derpyfan  
I try too  
but sometimes there arguments seem to be nothing but nitpick  
and saying there’s contradiction when there’s not
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@Background Pony #A190  
Just ignore them.
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@H.L. Xkcess  
I’m not even sure it’s good in a vacuum, considering the author outright said that they weren’t sure they could do Cozy’s backstory justice, treat it with the proper respect, in a big tangent and yet they did attempted genocide for Chrysalis’ backstory. Also, Chrysalis being implied to be ready to counter since she didn’t trust them turned into “I’ll let them all trudge on through here, tell them everything, and not keep an eye on them whatsoever.” If Chrysalis caught them setting up one of those runes, and that’s how the conflict was sparked, by her questioning why they needed to do that, it would’ve made more sense, but instead, it’s narratively treated as if Chrysalis never considered it could happen.
 
It just makes so little sense for Chrysalis character-wise to never taunt anyone for the atrocities ponies supposedly committed against her people, if this was what happened, and it further makes so little sense for her to drop her subjects like a hot potato the second they turned against her, with her intentions being “replace them with ponies,” if it was about them more than her, in addition to the logic of why absolutely none of the changelings would side with her over Thorax. Word-for-word, she wanted to build a new hive with ponies; it was never “reclaim/save my hive from themselves.”
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So much for “one bad apple can spoil the barrel”.
 
A bunch zealots ignited the flame of hate (no pun intendet) that will burn for generations.
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That’s sad, starting to reconsider whether Chrysie deserved this.
GrimChariot

@Manerg  
Fair enough.
 
Usually people get up in arms about that and act like Luna all the way to Starlight had any more justifications, nice to actually find someone who’s at least consistent.
 
I’ll defend the trios’ right to an attempt at a redemption till the sun goes out but thats mostly because of circumstances and the hypocrisy of the show.
 
I’ve got no real illusion of them being innocent, more so them being arguably the scapegoat or a symptom of something else given the overarching context.