@greymaria
Sure, that’s the perfectly reasonable takeaway from “a huge corporation did something illegal and unsafe and hundreds of random innocent people were severely injured as a result through no fault of their own”: “the more corrupt lawyer wins”.
@greymaria
As much as I dislike TUA (he has very much earned his duck badge) and being on his side in general, McDonalds was serving coffee at an illegally high temperature. The woman sued for her medical bills result from her surface-of-the-sun temperature coffee, and received an enormous amount of money (1 day of McDonalds coffee sales worldwide) due to a smart-aleck jury, which was then reduced down to the cost of her medical bills; she also legally wasn’t allowed to talk about but McDonalds was, which is why so many people have heard of it as the story the woman who didn’t know coffee was hot, and not the story of how McDonalds kept their coffee at an illegally high temperature. A frivolous lawsuit this wasn’t. Do not treat it as such.
@Cyborg_pony
That’s still not what “white knight” means, sorry, and what sort of person is being shafted by a multi-billion dollar corporation is pretty obviously not the important part of the whole “shafted by a multi-billion dollar corporation” thing.
@greymaria
Well, I’m sorry that you’re so thin-skinned and easily offended that it just ruins your whole afternoon to have someone correct you when you say something ignorant and uninformed in the process of pointing and laughing at people who were severely injured by corporate malfeasance.
Countdown to a mod coming in and blaming me for “starting shit” in 3… 2… 1…
@Cyborg_pony
The mane difference is Texas often provides evidence and links, putting him in a quantum in-between state between a SJW and an activist. Though, I wouldn’t know if he really does spend time and money on social change. ^3^;
@greymaria
He is this site’s white knight. If you say anything about a “M’lady” he’ll storm in and defend her honor no matter what. You just learn to live with it.
@greymaria
Remember when McDonalds lost a lawsuit
Sure, and I also remember that the lawsuit wasn’t about “DURR HURR OL’ LADY SUED ‘CUZ SPILLT COFFEE LOLKEK”, it was about the fact that McDonald’s had a corporate policy of selling coffee that was heated to around 200°F/93°C– which you may notice is just short of boiling– and the old lady in question suffered third degree burns over 16 percent of her body. Her genitals literally had to be rebuilt by plastic surgeons. That was just one of over 700 severe burn injuries that happened as a result of McDonald’s deliberately serving coffee at blatantly unsafe temperatures in shitty paper or styro cups with shitty plastic lids. Most home-use water heaters are limited by design to a maximum of 180°F/82°C, because at that temperature it takes less than ten seconds to cause a third degree burn on unprotected skin.
Pick a different example for Litigiousness Gone Wild; homeowners’ associations exist, FFS– start looking there.
@TexasUberAlles
#OnlyInAmerica (yes, I’m hashtagging this) will this not actually be true. Lawsuits for everything, and the more corrupt lawyer wins. Remember when McDonalds lost a lawsuit because an old lady, presumably smart enough to know better from, say, preparing coffee in the past, spilled coffee on herself?
Also, I’m going to point out that most “NO SMOKING” signs do not state a reason as to why and are usually disregarded in outdoor areas anyway.
@Exedrus
intense man. So it has happened before, guess I shouldn’t be surprised. Glad to see all things worked out in the end, and glad to see that the laws didn’t do anything worse. Just wondering now if sometime in the future Governments put laws in place to stop all public uploading to prevent illegal pics being posted xD The world would have to become a pretty dark place first though, haha.
@TexasUberAlles
True that, but you have no idea how much they will try and fight against exclusion clauses in court, more often then not, the exclusion clauses will be overruled. The fact that it’s still possible to happen, even though there is warnings or signs, is what matters. But you are right about the changelog of images and stuff, there has been many things uploaded here that the mods have to keep an eye out for 24/7, that many of us may never see.
@Exedrus
They can’t really be held legally responsible for the actions of people too dim and/or malicious to read the multiple warnings telling them not to upload illegal content, especially since any investigation would immediately find a changelog that’s chock-a-block full of illegal and offensive images that were promptly deleted without any law enforcement involvement by whichever mod was awake at the time. If some idiot lights up next to the NO SMOKING sign by the propane tanks, the store can’t be held accountable when they get their dumb ass launched into the parking lot across the street.
@Goremise
I’ve asked about this in IRC a while ago, and apparently people have uploaded plainly illegal content onto this site. The images were reported to the authorities (along side any info on the uploader) and permanently deleted. I’m not sure what legal hoops the mod team had to jump through (I imagine there’s some sort of good-faith affirmative defense they had to appeal to), but the site is still up so I guess it worked.
@Dashu
It’s the same effect as to why Derpi has to be quick to remove all images of a child like nature, because of the laws ect. It’s not wishful thinking, it’s what “would” happen if they were caught by the authorities.
there’s no doubt that it wouldn’t happen either, as there are many people who do have one of what you say with the site, so it would be reported instantly.
There’s a reason you see many other blogs and sites suddenly disappear, depicting children naked online is against the law in many places.
laughs silently
Sure, that’s the perfectly reasonable takeaway from “a huge corporation did something illegal and unsafe and hundreds of random innocent people were severely injured as a result through no fault of their own”: “the more corrupt lawyer wins”.
tl;dr: “the more corrupt lawyer wins”.
As much as I dislike TUA (he has very much earned his duck badge) and being on his side in general, McDonalds was serving coffee at an illegally high temperature. The woman sued for her medical bills result from her surface-of-the-sun temperature coffee, and received an enormous amount of money (1 day of McDonalds coffee sales worldwide) due to a smart-aleck jury, which was then reduced down to the cost of her medical bills; she also legally wasn’t allowed to talk about but McDonalds was, which is why so many people have heard of it as the story the woman who didn’t know coffee was hot, and not the story of how McDonalds kept their coffee at an illegally high temperature. A frivolous lawsuit this wasn’t. Do not treat it as such.
That’s still not what “white knight” means, sorry, and what sort of person is being shafted by a multi-billion dollar corporation is pretty obviously not the important part of the whole “shafted by a multi-billion dollar corporation” thing.
@greymaria
Well, I’m sorry that you’re so thin-skinned and easily offended that it just ruins your whole afternoon to have someone correct you when you say something ignorant and uninformed in the process of pointing and laughing at people who were severely injured by corporate malfeasance.
Countdown to a mod coming in and blaming me for “starting shit” in 3… 2… 1…
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The mane difference is Texas often provides evidence and links, putting him in a quantum in-between state between a SJW and an activist. Though, I wouldn’t know if he really does spend time and money on social change. ^3^;
He is this site’s white knight. If you say anything about a “M’lady” he’ll storm in and defend her honor no matter what. You just learn to live with it.
Jesus fuck, triggered much? You must not have inferred for yourself that coffee was hot.
Remember when McDonalds lost a lawsuit
Sure, and I also remember that the lawsuit wasn’t about “DURR HURR OL’ LADY SUED ‘CUZ SPILLT COFFEE LOLKEK”, it was about the fact that McDonald’s had a corporate policy of selling coffee that was heated to around 200°F/93°C– which you may notice is just short of boiling– and the old lady in question suffered third degree burns over 16 percent of her body. Her genitals literally had to be rebuilt by plastic surgeons. That was just one of over 700 severe burn injuries that happened as a result of McDonald’s deliberately serving coffee at blatantly unsafe temperatures in shitty paper or styro cups with shitty plastic lids. Most home-use water heaters are limited by design to a maximum of 180°F/82°C, because at that temperature it takes less than ten seconds to cause a third degree burn on unprotected skin.
Pick a different example for Litigiousness Gone Wild; homeowners’ associations exist, FFS– start looking there.
#OnlyInAmerica (yes, I’m hashtagging this) will this not actually be true. Lawsuits for everything, and the more corrupt lawyer wins. Remember when McDonalds lost a lawsuit because an old lady, presumably smart enough to know better from, say, preparing coffee in the past, spilled coffee on herself?
Also, I’m going to point out that most “NO SMOKING” signs do not state a reason as to why and are usually disregarded in outdoor areas anyway.
intense man. So it has happened before, guess I shouldn’t be surprised. Glad to see all things worked out in the end, and glad to see that the laws didn’t do anything worse. Just wondering now if sometime in the future Governments put laws in place to stop all public uploading to prevent illegal pics being posted xD The world would have to become a pretty dark place first though, haha.
@TexasUberAlles
True that, but you have no idea how much they will try and fight against exclusion clauses in court, more often then not, the exclusion clauses will be overruled. The fact that it’s still possible to happen, even though there is warnings or signs, is what matters. But you are right about the changelog of images and stuff, there has been many things uploaded here that the mods have to keep an eye out for 24/7, that many of us may never see.
They can’t really be held legally responsible for the actions of people too dim and/or malicious to read the multiple warnings telling them not to upload illegal content, especially since any investigation would immediately find a changelog that’s chock-a-block full of illegal and offensive images that were promptly deleted without any law enforcement involvement by whichever mod was awake at the time. If some idiot lights up next to the NO SMOKING sign by the propane tanks, the store can’t be held accountable when they get their dumb ass launched into the parking lot across the street.
I’ve asked about this in IRC a while ago, and apparently people have uploaded plainly illegal content onto this site. The images were reported to the authorities (along side any info on the uploader) and permanently deleted. I’m not sure what legal hoops the mod team had to jump through (I imagine there’s some sort of good-faith affirmative defense they had to appeal to), but the site is still up so I guess it worked.
@zippysqrl
Funnily enough, that never occurred to me :P
Hah, that’d be stupid indeed. I mean, it’s your site location laws right? Derpi would get in lots of trouble if it happened ect.
heh :/
I didnt say that, I merely implied the possibility of someone stupidly doing it in the future.
Well you said someone posted CP then tried report it.
I wouldn’t know.
Someone pulled a Dan Olsen?
>post CP to derpibooru
>report derpibooru for hosting CP you posted
>????
Those are two different things. <_<
It’s the same effect as to why Derpi has to be quick to remove all images of a child like nature, because of the laws ect. It’s not wishful thinking, it’s what “would” happen if they were caught by the authorities.
there’s no doubt that it wouldn’t happen either, as there are many people who do have one of what you say with the site, so it would be reported instantly.
There’s a reason you see many other blogs and sites suddenly disappear, depicting children naked online is against the law in many places.