What happened to the 'neigh' button?

Werkbau
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@The Smiling Pony
 
Things that are bad and we don’t like oftentimes are the exact same to users.
 
As it is now, the upvoting is superior in position compared to both downvotes and filtering, even with favorites left out.
JP
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@The Smiling Pony  
So when Derpi’s front page is full of animated gifs from the most recent episode, I shouldn’t need to feel bad if I press F5 every two minutes and pull 25-30 megabytes of data from Derpi’s servers every time?
l40LVOSm
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@The Smiling Pony
 
“Personal Experience” is not data. Personal Experience is an anecdote. This is not making something up, this is a fact. We can agree on this fact and move on, because since you can’t provide data all you are providing is an anecdote from experience.
 
That same data, by the way, would prove that people downvoting fluttershy are actually causing a problem. Furthermore, that same argument should hold for the reverse if it is at all true: people upvoting fluttershy in every image that contains fluttershy should equally be a problem.
 
Neither, in fact, are. The problem is small, not large, and your claiming otherwise by anecdote is not proof. As we still see images of Fluttershy with “upvotes galore” more often than not, and as typically the most downvotes are given to minor tags of niche interests (like diapers), I can reasonably assume you are not correct.
 
More specifically: The problem is not people downvoting fluttershy. The problem is people downvoting niche interests because they’re niche interests. It’s the small interests without a large enough support base to sustain downvoting, not one of the six fucking main cast.
NiGHTS4life
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Nightmaren
Seems like the sensitive artists finally got what they wanted. Numbers and colors were too much for them, causing them to feel shamed on the site. Fortunately the White Knights of the Derpibooru came to the rescue! The Knights locked away the Neigh button, and gave its formal place to the number of Faves. While the Neigh button is still alive, it is now a grain of sand in the beach.
We live in a community of pansies and trolls. Tis a sad day for justice.
 
Truth.
The Smiling Pony
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Listen, here’s how it is, down straight.
 
Someone suggested we add fave numbers to thumbnails, because faves are meant to be more important than votes. So we add that. Problem, popular images suddenly don’t fit without needing two lines, which breaks site formatting.
 
Solution, look at the least used element in the thumbnail header, and take it out. That’s downvotes. Downvotes are a hardly used site feature, and are generally used either to vote bomb troll posts, “shitty art”, or used by people that don’t want to filter images.
 
We have data. No, we aren’t going to give you that data because it would be a pain in the ass to extract it, make it readable and presentable. We know how downvotes are used. You can call it subjective or made up or whatever you want. I know you don’t give a damn about what I or any other mod says, you made that clear months ago.
 
Anyways, we value showing fave numbers more than we value the small number of times a user needs to downvote an image because it’s legitimately bad rather than because it’s a fetish, theme, artist or character they don’t like.
 
If people think being able to upvote from the thumbnail is unfair, they’re welcome to go to the features and suggestion thread and present an argument there.
NiGHTS4life
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Nightmaren
Listen, here’s how it is, down straight.
Someone suggested we add fave numbers to thummbnails, because faves are meant to be more important than votes. So we add that. Problem, popular images suddenly fit without needing two lines, which breaks site formatting.
Solution, look at the least used element in the thumbnail header, and take it out. That’s downvotes. Downvotes are a hardly used site feature, and are generally used either to vote bomb troll posts, “shitty art”, or used by people that don’t want to filter images.
We have data. No, we aren’t going to give you that data because it would be a pain in the ass to extract it, make it readable and presentable. We know how downvotes are used. You can call it subjective or made up or whatever you want. I know you don’t give a damn about what I or any other mod says, you made that clear months ago.
Anyways, we value showing fave numbers more than we value the small number of times a user needs to downvote an image because it’s legitimately bad rather than because it’s a fetish, theme, artist or character they don’t like.
If people think being able to upvote from the thumbnail is unfair, they’re welcome to go to the features and suggestion thread and present an argument there.
 
If the image you fave also gets upvoted it is okay. Keep that feature at least.
The Smiling Pony
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@The Smiling Pony  
To clarify, the small number of times it’s obvious from the thumbnail than an image needs to be downvoted. Kind reminder that if downvoting from the thumbnail had existed in Ponibooru, Weaver’s comics or Wollap’s creations would have likely been votebombed and killed prematurely.
 
 
@Werkbau  
We anticipate a “worst case scenario” of 4 digit numbers in faves, score and comments. Faves haven’t reached the 4 digit point yet, though comments have exceeded it. At that point it’s impossible to fit another button in, at least not without making the entire thing a confusing mess.
 
 
Also I need sleep and then work, so gn everyone.
l40LVOSm
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@The Smiling Pony
 
So everyone who uses your website just has to trust you, because you say so. To make judgements about user activity without actually using anything resembling gathering statistics on said behavior. Ultimately making judgements on what you think user activity is.
 
Sure sounds confirmation bias in here.
Werkbau
The End wasn't The End - Found a new home after the great exodus of 2012

@The Smiling Pony
 
 
Can’t you have coders make them not use so many digits? Shorthand to like 1k upvote and have the full numbers appear on the tooltip just before the tags. Besides, having precise comment numbers does not seem essential.
 
And scoring.I personally prefer if the upvotes and downvotes are separate, but that’s just me.
IAmAPony
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Guys, you are doing it ABSOLUTELY WRONG!
 
Instead of disabling downvoting on thumbnails, you should display both upvotes and downvotes. Instead of telling artists, “Nobody dislikes your art”, you should tell, “Lots of people like your art”.
 
I hate with passion those stupid pricks who downvote based on fetishes. Art with weird fetishes receives so many downvotes that both score numbers and sorting by score becomes pointless.
 
But with your solution, instead of giving more information, you just receive less. I don’t see how it improves the website. Maybe it looks better for a few silly artists who worry about downvotes too much, but on the whole, it does more harm than good.
ClownDicks
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Guys, you are doing it ABSOLUTELY WRONG!
Instead of disabling downvoting on thumbnails, you should display both upvotes and downvotes. Instead of telling artists, “Nobody dislikes your art”, you should tell, “Lots of people like your art”.
I hate with passion those stupid pricks who downvote based on fetishes. Art with weird fetishes receives so many downvotes that both score numbers and sorting by score becomes pointless.
But with your solution, instead of giving more information, you just receive less. I don’t see how it improves the website. Maybe it looks better for a few silly artists who worry about downvotes too much, but on the whole, it does more harm than good.
 
My nigga.
Grieffon
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Don’t know about you all, but I’d rather trust the decision of someone who has been monitoring and running the site for 2 years than what anyone else suggests “is best for the site”.
 
Of course we make suggestions to make the site better, but it makes more sense to leave the decision making to the mods rather than trying to force what is right or wrong on them.
Background Pony #DF9D
Everyone else is already making the points I’d make, I don’t have the time or energy to stay up and read them all, and I don’t think my voice would be heard among all the rabble anyway. I’ll just say two things:
 
First, I don’t like the removal of the downvote button on the main gallery/search page, because I often downvote images I dislike based on subjective quality. Read: I’m highly critical of OC designs.
 
Second, this UI change came as a shock to me, and ruined my night. Next time a move like this is made, I would like some sort of forewarning to be given on the front page–somewhere where people like me who usually do things other than bum around the forums all day are likely to happen upon it.
IAmAPony
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@Grieffon
Do you approve of the new YouTube comments system too?
 
Actaully I don’t see what’s wrong with it. They broke replying to old comments, but other than that I don’t see any regressions. Maybe I’m not commenting enough on YouTube to notice… Anyway, merely integrating Google+ doesn’t warrant all the whining and bitching about the update. Forcing registration on Google+ before that was more annoying. And the settings button on videos, for that matter.
ClownDicks
The End wasn't The End - Found a new home after the great exodus of 2012

Next time a move like this is made, I would like some sort of forewarning to be given on the front page–somewhere where people like me who usually do things other than bum around the forums all day are likely to happen upon it.
 
This. Whenever an admin here, usually TSP, says they had a thread about it in the forums, I’m reminded of that bit near the beginning of The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy where Arthur Dent is told he has no right to complain about his house being demolished because the plans for it were in a(n out of the way corner of) the planning center for months.
 
@IAmAPony  
They broke replying to old comments
 
They broke the comments in general.
Bryce
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I just wanted to say that the proposed solution of making it all fit on one line by abbreviating high counts (e.g. 4000 -> 4k) is excellent. It would be an outstanding and easily-implemented compromise solution to restore the neigh button and abbreviate high numbers.
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